[home][rumors and news][model release matrix][tov motorsports][desktop calendar][exhaust notes][tov forums][links][search][sponsors][garage][login]

Tire Rack Upgrade Garage
 Search for a Dealer:
 Canadian Flag US Flag
 Honda Acura
There are currently no active Acura promotions
There are currently no active Honda promotions
American Honda reports July 2021 sales results
Limited Run Acura NSX Type S to Debut at Monterey Car Week, Celebrates Supercar’s Final Model Year
Spied in Southern Europe! 11th gen Civic Type R
American Honda reports June 2021 and 2nd quarter sales results
Official PR Photos of the 2022 Civic Hatchback
Honda is revealing the 2022 Civic Hatchback tonight live on YouTube
Just hitting the dealer lots: 2021 Acura TLX Type S
2022 MDX Type S Breaks Cover as Acura Race Team Departs for Pikes Peak Hill Climb
Today's Reading Links --> Re: Toyota Avalon Sedan Will End Production in 2022
Join Discussion......
General Talk --> Honda swings to Q1 operating profit, trounces estimates
Join Discussion......
Today's Reading Links --> Re: C&D: Tesla Model 3 Not Cheaper in Maintenance
Join Discussion......
General Talk --> Re: ACURA at NYC Auto Show 2021??
Join Discussion......
NSX --> Re: 2022 NSX Type S
Join Discussion......
General Talk --> Re: Honda & Acura EV Rumor
Join Discussion......
General Talk --> Re: Toyota GR 86 6sp+RWD pretty cool
Join Discussion......
TLX --> Re: Type-S Review…
Join Discussion......
Civic --> Re: 11th Generation Honda Civic Reviews
Join Discussion......
General Talk --> Re: 2022 Honda Pilot awaits new base trim, so it starts at $40,285 for now
Join Discussion......
Type R --> Re: 2020 Civic Type R Revealed
Join Discussion......
Classifieds: Buy & Sell --> Re: FOR SALE!!!! 2013 Scion FR-S And a 2018 BMW M2
Join Discussion......
Professional Motorsports --> TOV-M - Indycar Update: Palou, Honda Look to Finish Things Off
Join Discussion......
ILX --> Re: spy shots of the new ILX?
Join Discussion......
HondaMobilia --> Re: Your Hondamobilia Collection
Join Discussion......
Update from New York - 2017 MDX Sport Hybrid information
 Date: March 24, 2016 12:43
 Submitted by:  JeffX
 Source: TOV News
 Credibility Rating: Not Specified

At its press conference for the 2016 New York Auto Show yesterday, Acura announced a fairly major mid-cycle model change (MMC) for the 2017 (3rd generation) MDX. As expected, the 2017 MDX features freshened styling, incorporating design cues (such as the Diamond Pentagon grill) from the 2016 Acura Precision Concept. Last autumn, we were told by the Acura designers that Acura was getting away from the hidden exhaust look and returning to exposed exhaust designs, and as you can see, the 2017 MDX lives up to this promise (all Acuras going forward will as well). Beyond the styling updates, Acura announced a new Sport Hybrid version of the MDX, and this is where things become a bit more interesting.

First of all, there was a minor (yet at the same time, fairly critical) typographical error in the press release that went out during the press conference. We had received an advanced copy of the press release earlier in the AM, and were surprised to see that the engine listed for the MDX Sport Hybrid model was a 3.0L DOHC unit. This grabbed our attention immediately, as apart from the NSX's C30/C32 and JNC1 engines, there's never been a DOHC V6 in any other Acura (or Honda) product. And we had been told a few times in the past that the 60-degree J-Series V6 was too compact to easily accommodate a DOHC cylinder head. Could it be a new V6 design? Or an intricately engineered DOHC head that worked within the compact J-Series packaging? There wasn't much time to get to the bottom of this, but when we asked an Acura PR rep about the DOHC 3.0 in the hours before the press conference, we were informed that it was in fact based on the existing block, but there was no clarification on whether or not it was SOHC or DOHC.

It turns out that the MDX's 3.0L Sport Hybrid uses essentially the same 3-motor setup as the RLX Sport Hybrid. Instead of the RLX's 3.5L Direct-Injected V6 (which generates 310hp), the MDX Sport Hybrid uses a 3.0L SOHC V6. We're told that this engine is very similar to the J30Y1 which is found in Chinese-market Acura RDXs and uses standard port-injection. In this specification, the engine develops 257hp@6300rpm (and 218lb-ft@5000rpm) of the MDX Sport Hybrid's total system output of 325hp (and 289b-ft). We were told that mechanically, the rest of the Sport Hybrid setup is essentially the same as that found in the RLX, with the same power and torque ratings. The MDX also borrows the RLX Sport Hybrid's superb 7-speed dual clutch (DCT) transmission. Like the RLX Sport Hybrid, this transmission will actually launch in 2nd gear most of the time. On the MDX Sport Hybrid, however, there is a Sport+ mode as part of the Integrated Dynamics System (IDS), and in this mode, it will launch in 1st gear to provide maximum acceleration from a standing start. On the RLX Sport Hybrid, unless Acura has updated the control software recently, we found that the only way to get it to launch in 1st gear was to select Sport mode and then to manually downshift into 1st gear using the paddle shifter.

Some people have asked why Acura downsized the engine to 3.0L. We were told that the primary driver was to improve fuel economy while maintaining performance. Certainly, the 3.0's simpler port fuel injection system costs less than the RLX's direct injection setup, so it stands to reason that there's probably some cost consideration in there too. The addition of the hybrid system means that the Sport Hybrid MDX is roughly 200lbs heavier than the SH-AWD MDX. We were told that the MDX Sport Hybrid's 0-60 performance is essentially the same as the conventional 3.5L SH-AWD powertrain with 9-speed automatic transmission, but the Sport Hybrid system delivers better performance than the 3.5L powertrain in passing maneuvers.

One thing that's great about the Sport Hybrid MDX is that the platform was engineered from the outset to incorporate all of the hybrid hardware. There is absolutely zero impact to the packaging. That means there is no loss of passenger or cargo volume or any of the MDX's functionality. The battery pack resides in an area that was designed into the chassis underneath the third row seats. The rest of the hardware fits neatly into the existing package.

Inside the MDX you'll notice some new features that were conspicuously absent on previous models, but you'll also notice that the dashboard and center stack have not changed from the dual screen layout. On models without the rear entertainment system (RES), the second row seating maintains the existing bench configuration, but in non-RES Advance models, that bench is replaced with captain's chairs and a rear center console which adds two additional USB ports.

On the chassis side, Sport Hybrid MDX models get a new "Active Sport Suspension". Surprisingly, this is not a version of the magnetorheological (MR) damping system that was found on the 2nd generation MDX or all-new NSX. This is an active suspension which uses a mechanically adjusted valve to vary the damping rates.

Acura isn't ready to talk about costs in any sort of absolute terms but from what we were told it doesn't sound like the Sport Hybrid package will come at a huge premium. It sounds like there might be a delta of around 10% above the conventional MDX SH-AWD.

Overall the MDX's "mid cycle model change" (MMC) ranks up there with one of the most significant changes that we've seen from Acura in a long time, perhaps dating back to the 2007 updates seen by the 3rd generation Acura TL.

Last edited by JeffX on April 07, 2016 01:01

Click Here to Submit Your Comments

Viewing Threshold (What is this?)

[fancy] [flat] [simple]
Your Feedback
Date Subject User
03-29-2016 08:54 SOHC vs. DOHC...   (Score: 1, Normal) CarPhreakD
03-31-2016 23:34 JeffX
04-03-2016 09:00 TurkMan71
04-04-2016 22:16 Mikeydred
03-28-2016 13:24 Does this mean…   (Score: 1, Normal) 97accordse
03-28-2016 17:07 HONDA AFVM
03-28-2016 18:39 Triaque
03-29-2016 11:02 A77X
03-29-2016 18:38 PoweredbyHondaX
03-31-2016 10:35 A77X
03-31-2016 14:07 RlX
03-30-2016 09:50 CarPhreakD
03-30-2016 13:55 TonyEX
03-30-2016 21:57 TL_06
03-31-2016 11:53 A77X
03-30-2016 10:41 eSH-AWD for the all   (Score: 1, Normal) ipribadi
03-30-2016 13:33 TonyEX
03-31-2016 13:56 ipribadi
03-24-2016 18:42 Missing features?   (Score: 1, Normal) Torino R72P
03-24-2016 19:09 JeffX
03-25-2016 13:21 TonyEX
03-27-2016 15:00 JeffX
03-30-2016 19:38 mrmyzteriouz
03-24-2016 20:56 chhan02
03-24-2016 21:42 trexdoc
03-24-2016 22:20 JeffX
03-25-2016 01:01 nore03
03-25-2016 09:00 Teamhondaguy
03-25-2016 09:39 rocky
03-25-2016 22:10 About the DCT   (Score: 1, Normal) CarmB
03-26-2016 08:15 Mikeydred
03-26-2016 14:27 CarmB
03-30-2016 10:07 ipribadi
03-26-2016 18:01 qingcong
03-28-2016 09:44 CarmB
03-29-2016 11:40 A77X
03-26-2016 14:00 Next RDX?   (Score: 1, Normal) cheffip
03-27-2016 01:37 PoweredbyHondaX
03-27-2016 07:02 cheffip
03-27-2016 13:45 TL_06
03-28-2016 17:16 mckillio
03-24-2016 18:49 Acceleration   (Score: 1, Normal) Hondarulez
03-24-2016 18:56 ducmnguyen
03-24-2016 19:10 Fitdad
03-24-2016 21:00 alpha0
03-24-2016 22:36 s2ktaxi
03-25-2016 00:21 Potenza
03-26-2016 17:06 TL_06
03-27-2016 17:34 RMTRADER
03-27-2016 20:17 lexusgs
03-26-2016 17:04 TL_06
03-25-2016 13:26 Parking brake on the dash?   (Score: 1, Normal) TonyEX
03-25-2016 13:45 neoshi
03-25-2016 13:45 neoshi
03-25-2016 19:47 TonyEX
03-27-2016 03:19 PoweredbyHondaX
03-24-2016 22:10 New Font   (Score: 1, Normal) Hondatalover
03-24-2016 22:16 JeffX
03-24-2016 22:46 PoweredbyHondaX
03-25-2016 10:42 HONDA AFVM
03-25-2016 11:56 JeffX
2022 Acura MDX Specs and Features
Read Article....................
2022 Honda Civic Design Story, a video by Honda
Read Article....................
Photo Gallery: 2021 Acura TLX Advance
Read Article....................
Photo Gallery: 2021 Acura TLX - Details and Cutaways
Read Article....................
Photo Gallery: 2021 Acura TLX A-Spec
Read Article....................
TOV Photo Gallery: 2020 Chicago Auto Show
Read Article....................
Contact TOV | Submit Your Article | Submit Your Link | Advertise | TOV Shop | Events | Our Sponsors | TOV Archives
Copyright © 2020 Velocitech Inc. All information contained herein remains the property of Velocitech Inc.
The Temple of VTEC is not affiliated with American Honda Motor Co., Inc. TOV Policies and Guidelines - Credits - Privacy Policy