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Waldo
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Re: 2019 Toyota Avalon - Erp    (Score: 1, Normal) 04-24-2018 11:15
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Inspired by the Chattanooga Choo Choo

https://goo.gl/wQx4uU

TonyEX
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Re: 2019 Toyota Avalon - Erp    (Score: 1, Normal) 04-24-2018 15:57
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longhorn wrote:
longhorn wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ZBfUJjEC8E

For those living in California where is this video filmed at? What road? I have seen Honda and other makes use this same stretch of road for their marketing videos. It seems to be very popular fro filming cars.



Where the lanes diverge.



I think the road is on the mountains around Ojay, on the Los Padres National Forest. The road could be Hwy 33 or the roads connection Frazier Peak to SR33 or SR166. At it higher elevations SR33 is very steep with huge drops, so I don't know. The oak trees (and lack of low scrubs) make me think of the north side, away from the ocean.

It could also by a bit further north in Central California. But I doubt it would be SR41 or SR46 because you'd never get that clouds nor those climbs.

Or, it could be SR154 north of Santa Barbara, except you see more trees on the seaside and it's much more mountainous all the way, plus lots of traffic.

It definitely looks like coastal SoCal or hmm... maybe up, yes, hmm.. Hwy 58, from the 101 to the 33?

There are some roads up by Paso Robles and Mission San Antonio de Padua that look like that. The trick is no chaparral and it has to be close to the coast and high enough. Note the clouds and rain.

It definitely does not look like Hwy 1 to Lompoc or anything in SoCal proper. I'd think that the road from Malibu to Lost Hills, but then the traffic on that road is incredibly heavy.

Impossible Dream
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Re: 2019 Toyota Avalon - Erp    (Score: 1, Normal) 04-24-2018 18:43
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NealX wrote:
Oh my. I had no idea...








Found the inspiration guys!

Someone at Toyota was watching Top Gear and saw Jeremy on the Atom and said, lets build that!...Except, instead of building an amazing car, they built the facial expression...





longhorn
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Re: 2019 Toyota Avalon - Erp    (Score: 1, Normal) 04-24-2018 20:29
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TonyEX wrote:
longhorn wrote:
longhorn wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ZBfUJjEC8E

For those living in California where is this video filmed at? What road? I have seen Honda and other makes use this same stretch of road for their marketing videos. It seems to be very popular fro filming cars.



Where the lanes diverge.



I think the road is on the mountains around Ojay, on the Los Padres National Forest. The road could be Hwy 33 or the roads connection Frazier Peak to SR33 or SR166. At it higher elevations SR33 is very steep with huge drops, so I don't know. The oak trees (and lack of low scrubs) make me think of the north side, away from the ocean.

It could also by a bit further north in Central California. But I doubt it would be SR41 or SR46 because you'd never get that clouds nor those climbs.

Or, it could be SR154 north of Santa Barbara, except you see more trees on the seaside and it's much more mountainous all the way, plus lots of traffic.

It definitely looks like coastal SoCal or hmm... maybe up, yes, hmm.. Hwy 58, from the 101 to the 33?

There are some roads up by Paso Robles and Mission San Antonio de Padua that look like that. The trick is no chaparral and it has to be close to the coast and high enough. Note the clouds and rain.

It definitely does not look like Hwy 1 to Lompoc or anything in SoCal proper. I'd think that the road from Malibu to Lost Hills, but then the traffic on that road is incredibly heavy.



Thank you Tony.

Civicb18
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Re: 2019 Toyota Avalon - Erp    (Score: 1, Normal) 04-24-2018 23:22
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We just launched this car a bit over a week ago. Yes, the grill is HUGE but the car looks much better in person. The interior is different but the quality is certainly there. And get this, the Avalon Touring has an available Sport exhaust which actually sounds very, VERY good!!! Donít hate on this car as it keeps my lights on!! Iíll be helping with the ES350 launch too here in a few months.

HondaDad
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Re: 2019 Toyota Avalon - Erp    (Score: 1, Normal) 04-25-2018 01:06
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That is a heinous design. Acura should park one in every showroom to show how much worse their also heinous DPG could be!
silverf16
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Re: 2019 Toyota Avalon - Erp    (Score: 1, Normal) 04-25-2018 01:27
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The madness continues. New ES



From thedrive.com and Jalopnik.com

"Ever since Lexus garnished every one of its cars with a pinched, Predator-like spindle grille, public reception has been... mixed, to say the least. While the luxury brand's decent sales suggest that at least some of you dig the mouth-full-of-razor-blades look, others haven't been as enamored. For those who find Lexus's signature front ends a little odd looking, over-styled, or downright ugly, bad news: Lexus hears you, but the grille ain't going anywhere.

In a conversation with CarBuzz, Lexus group vice president and general manager Jeff Bracken (in a moment of refreshing candor) spoke of hour-long phone calls with certain Lexus customers, lamenting the company's recent design decisions.

"I'll be very transparent. It's our signature grille. Some of our models have a more expressive signature grille than others," said Bracken. "The folks that look at it as somewhat polarizing would be, for the most part, the folks that have been with us since the beginning. In fact I'll take phone calls from some of these owners and will literally spend 45 minutes to an hour on the phone with me just expressing how disappointed they are."

Despite the impassioned grumbling from some of the brand's most loyalóand let's face itósenior clients, Bracken says the outlandishly-styled front fascias are here to stay, in a bet that the new, more youthful buyers they attract will outnumber the members of the old guard who decide to jump ship.

"It gives me an opportunity to explain why we're going down this path. I understand your concern. It's a very purposeful and strategic move on our part," said Bracken. "If we lose some of our traditional owners it's unsettling for us but wonít preclude us from moving down this path. We hope to gain more [customers] than we lose."

While we're sure the folks at Toyota's luxury arm spent many hours toiling over its current design direction, we couldn't help but think Lexus could've been a hair more purposeful and strategic with the spindle grille's implementation. Aping an idea from Toyota's own 2018 Camry, we think Lexus would have benefited greatly from giving buyers of most models the choice of two different grilles via two different trim packages. A "Sport" trim that includes the full spindle treatment and a more traditional "Luxury" trim for those who prefer to keep their Japanese luxury cars and '80s sci-fi monsters aesthetically separate....

...Lexus cannot please everyone at all times, so in order to grow their sales relative to BMW and Mercedes, theyíll need to do what it takes to make up those numbers (including shoving Lexus cars into the new Black Panther movie). Iím not one to advocate for design that conforms to any Ďnormsí, but Iíve also never liked Lexusí spindle. Would buyers be more likely to purchase a Lexus if they didnít have that strange insect mandible grille in front? It may be time to give up the grille."

Lexus, All Models Market Share
2017 305,229 1,77%
2016 331,228 1,89%
2015 344,601 1,97%
2014 311,389 1,88%
2013 273,847 1,76%
2012 244,162 1,68%
2011 198,552 1,55%
2010 229,329 1,98%
2009 215,975 2,07%
2008 260,087 1,96%
2007 329,177 2,04%
2006 322,434 1,95%
2005 302,895 1,78%
2004 287,927 1,70%
2003 259,755 1,56%



garoto
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Re: 2019 Toyota Avalon - Erp    (Score: 1, Normal) 04-25-2018 01:33
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Then Lexus one isnít half as bad as the Avalon. The Avalon is a fucking disaster. Who tries to appeal an Avalon to youth anyway?
DCR
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Re: 2019 Toyota Avalon - Erp    (Score: 1, Normal) 04-25-2018 02:02
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silverf16 wrote:
Lexus, All Models Market Share
2017 305,229 1,77%
2016 331,228 1,89%
2015 344,601 1,97%
2014 311,389 1,88%
2013 273,847 1,76%
2012 244,162 1,68%
2011 198,552 1,55%
2010 229,329 1,98%
2009 215,975 2,07%
2008 260,087 1,96%
2007 329,177 2,04%
2006 322,434 1,95%
2005 302,895 1,78%
2004 287,927 1,70%
2003 259,755 1,56%



I figured I would add a few more in here...pretty interesting watching the past 15 years with some of these brands.

Acura, All Models Market Share
2017 154.602 0,90%
2016 161.360 0,92%
2015 177.165 1,01%
2014 167.843 1,02%
2013 165.436 1,06%
2012 156.216 1,08%
2011 123.299 0,96%
2010 133.606 1,15%
2009 105.723 1,01%
2008 144.504 1,09%
2007 180.104 1,11%
2006 201.223 1,22%
2005 209.610 1,23%
2004 198.919 1,18%
2003 170.918 1,02%


Audi, All models MarketShare
2017 226.511 1,30%
2016 210.213 1,19%
2015 202.202 1,16%
2014 182.011 1,10%
2013 158.061 1,01%
2012 139.310 0,97%
2011 117.561 0,92%
2010 101.629 0,88%
2009 82.716 0,79%
2008 87.760 0,66%
2007 93.506 0,58%
2006 80.113 0,48%
2005 83.066 0,49%
2004 30.749 0,18%
2003 35.378 0,21%


Buick, All Models Market Share
2017 219.231 1,27%
2016 229.631 1,31%
2015 223.055 1,28%
2014 228.963 1,39%
2013 205.509 1,32%
2012 180.408 1,24%
2011 177.633 1,39%
2010 155.389 1,34%
2009 102.306 0,98%
2008 137.197 1,04%
2007 185.791 1,15%
2006 240.657 1,45%
2005 282.288 1,66%
2004 309.639 1,83%
2003 336.788 2,02%


Cadillac, All Models Market Share
2017 156.440 0,91%
2016 170.006 0,97%
2015 175.267 1,00%
2014 170.750 1,03%
2013 182.543 1,17%
2012 149.782 1,03%
2011 152.389 1,19%
2010 146.925 1,27%
2009 109.092 1,05%
2008 161.159 1,22%
2007 214.726 1,33%
2006 227.014 1,37%
2005 235.002 1,38%
2004 234.217 1,38%
2003 216.090 1,30%


rev2damoon
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Re: 2019 Toyota Avalon - Erp    (Score: 1, Normal) 04-25-2018 07:54
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LOL...And the Accord gets hated on for it's supposed "gaping maw"....
It's almost as if Toyota decided to demonstrate the true meaning of the term. Wonderful...lol.

silverf16
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Re: 2019 Toyota Avalon - Erp    (Score: 1, Normal) 04-25-2018 09:05
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Its pretty easy to resolve this. Make a traditional grill with a continuous horizontal bumper. Then make the ugly shit as an optional grill for the distasteful. Let the market decide the face.

Lexus and Toyota did this on their lineup but both Grills were just different variants of offensive. None of them traditional.

Nick GravesX
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Re: 2019 Toyota Avalon - Erp    (Score: 1, Normal) 04-25-2018 11:48
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I don't see it as a problem: there's a business opportunity for the RonJons of this world.



 
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