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JimmyEats
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Accord Hybrid longevity/reliability?    (Score: 1, Normal) 12-27-2017 08:53
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How durable is the Accord Hybrid's powertrain? It seems Honda made the '17 bulletproof, but that's my assumption. Were there changes from the '14 and '15 that improved potential reliability? Battery life is probably the big question, but the "e-CVT" is new or just a new application of existing technology?
Honda1
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Re: Accord Hybrid longevity/reliability?    (Score: 1, Normal) 12-27-2017 12:16
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JimmyEats wrote:
How durable is the Accord Hybrid's powertrain? It seems Honda made the '17 bulletproof, but that's my assumption. Were there changes from the '14 and '15 that improved potential reliability? Battery life is probably the big question, but the "e-CVT" is new or just a new application of existing technology?


The better question is what is the cost of replacing the battery after 8-9 years. I'd not be surprised if it's more expensive than the residual value of the car.


skapig
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Re: Accord Hybrid longevity/reliability?    (Score: 1, Normal) 12-27-2017 12:57
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Honda1 wrote:
JimmyEats wrote:
How durable is the Accord Hybrid's powertrain? It seems Honda made the '17 bulletproof, but that's my assumption. Were there changes from the '14 and '15 that improved potential reliability? Battery life is probably the big question, but the "e-CVT" is new or just a new application of existing technology?


The better question is what is the cost of replacing the battery after 8-9 years. I'd not be surprised if it's more expensive than the residual value of the car.




... and does that cost exceed the savings from the reduced fuel usage.

superchg2
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Re: Accord Hybrid longevity/reliability?    (Score: 1, Normal) 12-27-2017 13:09
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skapig wrote:
Honda1 wrote:
JimmyEats wrote:
How durable is the Accord Hybrid's powertrain? It seems Honda made the '17 bulletproof, but that's my assumption. Were there changes from the '14 and '15 that improved potential reliability? Battery life is probably the big question, but the "e-CVT" is new or just a new application of existing technology?


The better question is what is the cost of replacing the battery after 8-9 years. I'd not be surprised if it's more expensive than the residual value of the car.




... and does that cost exceed the savings from the reduced fuel usage.


It would also be interesting to see how many thousands of dollars it will cost to replace a high powered Tesla's battery pack.

Mikgtir
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Re: Accord Hybrid longevity/reliability?    (Score: 1, Normal) 12-27-2017 17:29
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superchg2 wrote:
skapig wrote:
Honda1 wrote:
JimmyEats wrote:
How durable is the Accord Hybrid's powertrain? It seems Honda made the '17 bulletproof, but that's my assumption. Were there changes from the '14 and '15 that improved potential reliability? Battery life is probably the big question, but the "e-CVT" is new or just a new application of existing technology?


The better question is what is the cost of replacing the battery after 8-9 years. I'd not be surprised if it's more expensive than the residual value of the car.




... and does that cost exceed the savings from the reduced fuel usage.


It would also be interesting to see how many thousands of dollars it will cost to replace a high powered Tesla's battery pack.


Hint of the price:

https://insideevs.com/ebayer-offering-tesla-battery-upgrades-just-15000/

Foxy_Grandma
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Re: Accord Hybrid longevity/reliability?    (Score: 1, Normal) 02-12-2018 13:18
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I think the biggest change in the '17 was the move to a Li-Ion battery pack. The "e-CVT" is just Honda's term for their power management strategy as there is no true transmission per se.
I've got over 50K miles on my '17 Hybrid Touring now and have had 0 issues to date (knock on wood...). I've only had to take it in for regular maintenance/oil changes as requested. I've been running on a set of 19" wheels/tires from the non-hybrid touring model which has had a slight impact on my mileage, but more than worth it for the looks and the more connected handling feel. The biggest issue I've seen is the sensitivity to outside air temperatures, but this is typical for any electric vehicle as the Li-Ion batteries do not like the cold!

JeffX
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Re: Accord Hybrid longevity/reliability?    (Score: 1, Normal) 02-12-2018 13:59
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Foxy_Grandma wrote:
I think the biggest change in the '17 was the move to a Li-Ion battery pack. The "e-CVT" is just Honda's term for their power management strategy as there is no true transmission per se.
I've got over 50K miles on my '17 Hybrid Touring now and have had 0 issues to date (knock on wood...). I've only had to take it in for regular maintenance/oil changes as requested. I've been running on a set of 19" wheels/tires from the non-hybrid touring model which has had a slight impact on my mileage, but more than worth it for the looks and the more connected handling feel. The biggest issue I've seen is the sensitivity to outside air temperatures, but this is typical for any electric vehicle as the Li-Ion batteries do not like the cold!



They've had Li-Ion batteries in the Accord Hybrids the entire time. they've been through several upgrade cycles, however. Once for the 2017 model and once again for 2018. Both times it became slightly more compact, I believe. As I recall, the one in the 2018 Accord Hybrid uses the same (latest) battery tech that's in the NSX.

JimmyEats
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Re: Accord Hybrid longevity/reliability?    (Score: 1, Normal) 04-25-2018 07:13
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A friend with a Prius just asked about my Accord Hybrid and then did some research on it. He came back to me impressed with Honda's powertrain design and the fuel economy the Accord gets.

It seems Honda's hybrid battery problems are mostly in the distant past. Though the '18's are new without rare earth minerals, so we'll have to wait and see.


 
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