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http://www.netcarshow.com/acura/2006-advanced_sedan_concept/
This is what started the decline of Acura and led it to become the but of jokes for car enthusiast. Dave Marek and his Advanced sedan concept
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Nick GravesX
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Well found.
They should put a poster of that next to Edvard Munch's "the scream" in an Acura naughty room for hubris-filled nutjobs who get above their station in future.
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JeffX
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Nick Graves wrote:
Well found.
They should put a poster of that next to Edvard Munch's "the scream" in an Acura naughty room for hubris-filled nutjobs who get above their station in future.
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I like Dave Marek - he's a really good guy. But when I flew out to LA for the show that year and they revealed that design, I really, really was not onboard at all with what they were showing. I was really disappointed with what I saw. I don't think it was just me, either - I didn't get the sense that anybody else at the show was really feeling it either.
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98EX4cyl
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Jeff wrote:
Nick Graves wrote:
Well found.
They should put a poster of that next to Edvard Munch's "the scream" in an Acura naughty room for hubris-filled nutjobs who get above their station in future.
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I like Dave Marek - he's a really good guy. But when I flew out to LA for the show that year and they revealed that design, I really, really was not onboard at all with what they were showing. I was really disappointed with what I saw. I don't think it was just me, either - I didn't get the sense that anybody else at the show was really feeling it either.
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Yeah, I remember Acura's version of the Batmobile. It was a WTF concept, made you scratch your head and say "and what are you going to do with that???"
Thought the same for the ZDX concept.
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98EX4cyl
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98EX4cyl wrote:
Jeff wrote:
Nick Graves wrote:
Well found.
They should put a poster of that next to Edvard Munch's "the scream" in an Acura naughty room for hubris-filled nutjobs who get above their station in future.
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I like Dave Marek - he's a really good guy. But when I flew out to LA for the show that year and they revealed that design, I really, really was not onboard at all with what they were showing. I was really disappointed with what I saw. I don't think it was just me, either - I didn't get the sense that anybody else at the show was really feeling it either.
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Yeah, I remember Acura's version of the Batmobile. It was a WTF concept, made you scratch your head and say "and what are you going to do with that???"
Thought the same for the ZDX concept.
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It AASC really wasn't popular on TOV when it debuted
http://www.vtec.net/news/news-item?news_item_id=636992
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Nick GravesX
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Jeff wrote:
Nick Graves wrote:
Well found.
They should put a poster of that next to Edvard Munch's "the scream" in an Acura naughty room for hubris-filled nutjobs who get above their station in future.
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I like Dave Marek - he's a really good guy. But when I flew out to LA for the show that year and they revealed that design, I really, really was not onboard at all with what they were showing. I was really disappointed with what I saw. I don't think it was just me, either - I didn't get the sense that anybody else at the show was really feeling it either.
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Not just there; IIRC, I made some very rude comments about it & so did many others.
The V16 styling is wrong & I could not grasp the connection to past or future cars, really. Even to the ASC, which did make far more design sense.
Even the ZDX could have made the basis of a tidy little coupe (with a nose rethink).
But that was just blue sky thinking. On bad acid.
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integrator
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With so much controversy over recent Honda NA designs, is Dave Marek still involved/ employed/ controlling design in Torrance ? I would think after such public vilification and subsequent effect on sales, he might not be. I don't think I've heard as much dislike for a designer's work before (joining the ranks of perhaps Laurens vanden Acker or Chris Bangle). But at least Chris Bangle increased BMW's sales significantly and defined their look that's heavily continued and successful in their current models. Mazda ditched vanden Acker and is already moving to wipe the smiley off its face. I wonder if Acura/Honda is quietly doing the same. IMO, the CrossTour's design should never have made it to production - the second big strike in very close succession.
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TurkMan71
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integrator wrote:
With so much controversy over recent Honda NA designs, is Dave Marek still involved/ employed/ controlling design in Torrance ? I would think after such public vilification and subsequent effect on sales, he might not be. I don't think I've heard as much dislike for a designer's work before (joining the ranks of perhaps Laurens vanden Acker or Chris Bangle). But at least Chris Bangle increased BMW's sales significantly and defined their look that's heavily continued and successful in their current models. Mazda ditched vanden Acker and is already moving to wipe the smiley off its face. I wonder if Acura/Honda is quietly doing the same. IMO, the CrossTour's design should never have made it to production - the second big strike in very close succession.
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I'd be surprised if Marek has that much personal control over design (and if he does, he's lucky he still has a job). It seems very un-Honda-like for one person to have so much control. Despite the much publicized role of the young woman who designed the ZDX, Honda for better or worse seems very design by committee. Even their bold designs seem forced and unnatural, as if there were too many cooks in the kitchen...
But hey that's just me - I like Honda/Acura despite their looks, not because of them...
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lexusgs
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Instead of taking the only 2 good things from the concept which was it was allegedly rwd and hinted at a possible new v8 as the powerplant they ditched those 2 things people wanted and would have been happy with while trying to put styling elements from that hideous thing into Acura vehicles which was a huge mistake.
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