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Early 2009 Nissan lowered its sales goal for the Z by 1/3. From 30k a year to 10k a year.
" Of the 10,000 370Zs that AN says Nissan now hopes to sell in 2009, 7,000 would be destined for the United States and the remaining 3,000 units would be sold in Europe. The industry publication did not publish Japanese domestic market (JDM) sales predictions for the car (known locally as the Fairlady Z)."
So they are slightly slower at about 8k a year in USA.
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MalcolmR
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TSX69:
Thank you. Much appreciated.
Malcolm
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TSX69
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http://www.leftlanenews.com/september-2010-sales-figures.html
September's Numbers
Acura – Up 48 percent to 10,720
Audi - Up 13 percent to 8,151
BMW - Up 21 percent to 18,228
Buick - Up 36 percent to 12,875
Cadillac - Up 11 percent to 12,620
Chevrolet - Up 19 percent to 121,406
Chrysler - Up 92 percent to 17,348
Dodge - Up 71 percent to 36,272
Ford - Up 49 percent to 146,559
GMC - Up 45 percent to 25,944
Honda – Up 24 percent to 86,641
Hummer - Down 62 percent to 163
Hyundai – Up 48 percent to 46,556
Infiniti – Up 26 percent to 8,305
Jaguar - Up 10 percent to 967
Jeep - Up 66 percent to 28,603
Kia - Up 39 percent to 30,071
Land Rover - Up 12 percent to 2,489
Lexus – Down 6 percent to 16,948
Lincoln - Up 26 percent to 7,510
Maserati - Up 5 percent to 136
Mazda - Up 31 percent to 18,580
Mercedes-Benz – Up 22 percent to 20,675
Mercury - Up 16 percent to 6,306
Mitsubishi - Up 5 percent to 4,961
MINI - Up 18 percent to 4,884
Nissan – Up 35 percent to 65,900
Pontiac - Down 100 percent to 8
Porsche - Up 25 percent to 1,971
Ram - Up 22 percent to 17,854
Saab - Up 133 percent to 1,127
Saturn - Down 100 percent to 15
Smart - Down 48 percent to 422
Subaru - Up 47 percent to 21,432
Suzuki - Down 12 percent to 1,641
Toyota (Includes Scion) – Up 20 percent to 126,652
Volkswagen - Up 15 percent to 19,943
Volvo - Down 12 percent to 4,152
BMW Group - Up 21 percent to 28,223
Chrysler - Up 61 percent to 100,077
Daimler - Up 18 percent to 21,100
Ford Motor Company - Up 40 percent to 160,375
General Motors - Up 11 percent to 173,031
American Honda - Up 26 percent to 97,361
Hyundai Group - Up 44 percent to 76,627
Jaguar Land Rover - Up 11 percent to 3,456
Nissan North America - Up 34 percent to 74,205
Toyota USA - Up 17 percent to 147,162
2010 YTD Numbers
Acura – Up 26 percent to 96,388
Audi - Up 24 percent to 73,590
BMW - Up 9 percent to 157,464
Buick - Up 58 percent to 114,000
Cadillac - Up 44 percent to 105,013
Chevrolet - Up 19 percent to 1,174,179
Chrysler - Up 18 percent to 158,103
Dodge - Up 25 percent to 303,019
Ford - Up 23 percent to 1,302,272
GMC - Up 31 percent to 230,502
Honda – Up 1 percent to 816,048
Hummer - Down 57 percent to 3,507
Hyundai – Up 20 percent to 410,047
Infiniti – Up 25 percent to 74,797
Jaguar - Up 12 percent to 9,748
Jeep - Up 14 percent to 207,546
Kia - Up 12 percent to 268,024
Land Rover - Up 21 percent to 22,289
Lexus – Up 9 percent to 162,438
Lincoln - Up 7 percent to 63,286
Maserati - Up 43 percent to 1,355
Mazda - Up 9 percent to 174,770
Mercedes-Benz – Up 22 percent to 165,427
Mercury - Up 3 percent to 71,179
Mitsubishi - Down 3 percent to 41,392
MINI - Down 1 percent to 34,588
Nissan – Up 15 percent to 598,904
Pontiac – Down 99 percent to 962
Porsche - Up 24 percent to 17,688
Ram - Down 4 percent to 151,552
Saab - Down 53 percent to 3,233
Saturn - Down 89 percent to 6,568
Smart - Down 62 percent to 4,779
Subaru - Up 22 percent to 193,614
Suzuki - Down 49 percent to 16,972
Toyota (Includes Scion) – Up 1 percent to 1,148,878
Volkswagen - Up 21 percent to 192,690
Volvo - Down 12 percent to 41,118
BMW Group - Up 7 percent to 192,286
Chrysler - Up 15 percent to 820,220
Daimler - Up 15 percent to 170,233
Ford Motor Company - Up 19 percent to 1,469,262
General Motors - Up 6 percent to 1,635,339
American Honda - Up 3 percent to 912,436
Hyundai Group - Up 17 percent to 678,071
Jaguar Land Rover - Up 18 percent to 32,037
Nissan North America - Up 16 percent to 673,701
Toyota USA - Up 1 percent to 1,311,316
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owequitit
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danielgr wrote:
owequitit wrote:
I agree the Z is a stellar car. Probably one of the most appealing in the category, and I would have a hard time between it and the Mustang GT if I were shopping in the segment.
It bodes poorly for enthusiasts because the Genesis is another example of a poorly moving car.
I know the CR-Z is still new, but with all the bitching, you would have expected the 370Z to move at least twice as many cars, and yet it is down almost 30%. Unfortunately, while the "enthusiasts" talk about sports car, they apparently aren't buying them unless it is a 'Stang or Camaro. Unfortunate but true.
All I know is I would hate to be tracking the auto industry right now. The numbers have been all over the place the last few months. |
I don't find any car that could actually compare straight with the CR-Z, but I'd feel more comfortable if someone compared it to Si coupe sales for example. In Europe and Japan it's obvious that the CR-Z outsells K20 powered hot Civics (Euro and JDM R's), but I'm not so sure in the US (don't bring the US sedan here though)
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I haven't drawn any conclusions other than the FACT that the CR-Z outsold the 370Z, which according to the "enthusiasts" on here, A) would never happen, and B) fairly clearly shows that the market for sports cars sucks right now.
Compared to previous sales, the Z is absolutely in the tank. Yes, the CR-Z is cheaper, but truth be told, the difference between a fully loaded CR-Z and the base model Z is only about $5k. That isn't far to stretch considering the performance difference, so clearly if performance were the only consideration, then the Z would be doing better.
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jero
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If I had 35K to spend on a new car, I would take a sport package manual 370Z hands down. Nothing else is really in the same realm for the money.
Having said that, it is a bit sad the sales are not better but don't forget they are still triple what ZDX sales are :)
A CRZ starts at $19K, EX Nav auto is $24K. A EX is $22K.
The base 370Z is $31K... but good luck finding one of those.
sport $34K
touring $36K
Touring + Sport $39K
40th anniversary $39.5K
NISMO $40.5K
So the most common CR-Z is ~$22K.
The most common 370Z is ~$34-36K.
This is a huge difference, and completely different buyers.
I still think Honda would be fine selling something a good step above the Civic Si, and a step below the 370Z for Civic Si +$5K or ~$28K... that isn't a Accord.
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Blue_Sky_surfer
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TSX69 wrote:
(cannot find all of BMW)
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Do I smell sth fishy?
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TSX69
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Fleets are Fueling the Sales Rise
September delivered the best U.S. monthly sales rate in 13 months. But the industry isn't doing it with retail sales.
Fleet sales are the growth engine of the U.S. auto market, according to automakers' internal documents obtained by Automotive News.
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80honda
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TSX69 wrote:
Fleets are Fueling the Sales Rise
September delivered the best U.S. monthly sales rate in 13 months. But the industry isn't doing it with retail sales.
Fleet sales are the growth engine of the U.S. auto market, according to automakers' internal documents obtained by Automotive News.
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Dang, I remember reading months ago, Mark Fields said Ford was going to increase their fleet sales reversing the previous push to reduce fleet.
Ford 46% increase! Now selling more fleet than anyone.
As usual, Honda isn't a player. Funny how forum member FAL claimed yesterday that Honda is going to be relying on fleet sales even more!
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Blue_Sky_surfer
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jero wrote:
[...] So the most common CR-Z is ~$22K.
The most common 370Z is ~$34-36K.
This is a huge difference, and completely different buyers.
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Eh??
Finally someone remember that price is one of the factors in sales comparison, haha.
I think there are posts here that compares sales of Crosstour with that of Outback month sfter month.
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