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Many Honda fans have stated (rightly or wrongly) that Honda seemed to resting on its laurels. This proves that Honda is not resting. 27 and 28 mpg on the higway is impressive considering that the minivan is aerodynamically a brick with rounded edges. Whatever the engineers are doing be it low resistance tires, lowering the friction with in the engine,or aero tricks, Honda is again showing the way and setting the standard in a segment.
You gotta know Toyota engineers are scrambling trying to find an extra few mpgs from the Sienna after reading the Odys specs.
Good job Honda engineers.
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Hondarulez
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No doubt. My 2002 TL-S that's like 1000lb lighter is rated at 19/29mpg under the old system (not as strict). 19/28 in a 4500lb van with a 12+ year old engine under the new EPA system is impressive IMO.
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danielgr
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Longhorn wrote:
Many Honda fans have stated (rightly or wrongly) that Honda seemed to resting on its laurels. This proves that Honda is not resting. 27 and 28 mpg on the higway is impressive considering that the minivan is aerodynamically a brick with rounded edges. Whatever the engineers are doing be it low resistance tires, lowering the friction with in the engine,or aero tricks, Honda is again showing the way and setting the standard in a segment.
You gotta know Toyota engineers are scrambling trying to find an extra few mpgs from the Sienna after reading the Odys specs.
Good job Honda engineers.
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Recently, it seems that automakers are focusing more and more into delivering tech that can improve FE under special circumstances that have a much greater impact on standardized tests than in real world conditions.
To me at least, it's certainly positive to get such good ratings, but I won't be impressed until I see the real world difference. I hope current Ody owners that decide to upgrade to the newer model will keep us informed.
Would be great if they joined TOV's real world FE database starting with their current model and then add the new one. Same person, same type of driving environment, new car = perfect info.
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Longhorn
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Daniel,I suspect that the Ody will get 27/28 mpg but not much more. Again, it is amazing that the official numbers are as high as they are, no matter how Honda got there (I bet the new Ody will use 0w20 oil,which has the viscosity of water).
I do not believe Honda would over deliver as GM normally does on its models (show me a new Camaro that actually gets 29mpg on the highway and it will be the first).
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integrator
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One thing I really appreciate in all the recent Honda's are the gauges in cool blue backlighting and their modern design. It's really attractive and nice to use while driving. I see other Mfr's like Mazda using red, which I've never understood since I think they're hard to see. So, good job Honda. Just try to keep from using those deepset cans to house your gauges in the small cars -ie Fit. Leave those to GM's cars from the 90's and recent Toyotas.
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