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  TOV News > Honda Performance Development, Inc. Proposes Entry Into FF (using Fit's L15A7 engines) > > Re: Wait, what is FF?

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kiwikungfu
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Wait, what is FF? [View News Item]    (Score: 1, Normal) 07-25-2009 01:07
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and why does the fit engine and mount kit cost as much as a fit? The stock engine as a replacement part, with transmission, is under $4k right?!
kiwikungfu
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Re: Wait, what is FF? [View News Item]    (Score: 1, Normal) 07-25-2009 01:26
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Ahh, FF = Formula Ford. an odd class name for Honda to support. Maybe an FH namechange is due?

Still, I can't believe how expensive that motor combination is, especially when they are listing it as restricted- maybe even less power than stock?

Give us a $4-5k econo-track-swap-in-engine and it's more on par with the actual cost of the engine. it's not like they made a carbon/titanium transmission for it! Although, that would be one of the coolest things I've ever seen done to an L15...
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Re: Wait, what is FF? [View News Item]    (Score: 1, Normal) 07-25-2009 08:53
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I'm confused to the wording. Does this cost include the vehicle body also or just the engine and other bits mentioned?
Bullwinkle
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Re: Wait, what is FF? [View News Item]    (Score: 1, Normal) 07-25-2009 22:39
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IT does not include the car. The car is a Swift without an engine. The cost of this engine for an open wheel racer, let alone the lowered maintenance costs, should make it very popular.

Remember, this is a race engine, designed to be run to the red line at every shift. At a place like Road America, it would be running within 10% of the rev limit at least 60% of the time.

An unmodified road car engine would not last more than a couple of weekends, with the possible exception of an F20 or F22 (S2000).
mk23666
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Re: Wait, what is FF? [View News Item]    (Score: 1, Normal) 07-26-2009 10:12
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Thanks BW
Bosshog
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Re: Wait, what is FF? [View News Item]    (Score: 1, Normal) 07-27-2009 08:21
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If anyone out there knows of some websites that I could learn more about this, or has a basic run-down of costs and a quick summary of commitment to this FF. Please include that here.

I have always wanted to race with either my S2000 or a Kit Cobra or something like this FF. Currently racing at these Solo II events is becoming less and less challenging (been to at least 50 events).

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Bosshog
RyanDL
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Re: Wait, what is FF? [View News Item]    (Score: 1, Normal) 07-27-2009 12:47
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Bosshog wrote:
If anyone out there knows of some websites that I could learn more about this, or has a basic run-down of costs and a quick summary of commitment to this FF. Please include that here.

I have always wanted to race with either my S2000 or a Kit Cobra or something like this FF. Currently racing at these Solo II events is becoming less and less challenging (been to at least 50 events).

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Bosshog


Not sure where you live, but I would suggest looking into a track event. You can drive your S2000 and the speeds are much higher since you're on a real track as opposed to an auto-x course.

Ryan
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Re: Wait, what is FF? [View News Item]    (Score: 1, Normal) 07-28-2009 11:55
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Google SCCA (Sports Car Club of America). All kinds of stuff. A lot of fun, too. Tends to be regional, so you might have to dig to find a local/regional club.
 
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