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from the article, it sounds like honda is buliding a new turbo? or am i wrong... probably they are just gonna put the 2.3L I4 turbo in from the RDX i suppose. This is exciting news but it would burn off the front tires if it were left FWD. quite sad. (like the mspd3)
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Tosa1962
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you_cheap wrote:
from the article, it sounds like honda is buliding a new turbo? or am i wrong... probably they are just gonna put the 2.3L I4 turbo in from the RDX i suppose. This is exciting news but it would burn off the front tires if it were left FWD. quite sad. (like the mspd3)
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The msp3 does not allow full power to the wheels at first two gears, these DBW cars...
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techline
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Tosa1962 wrote:
you_cheap wrote:
from the article, it sounds like honda is buliding a new turbo? or am i wrong... probably they are just gonna put the 2.3L I4 turbo in from the RDX i suppose. This is exciting news but it would burn off the front tires if it were left FWD. quite sad. (like the mspd3)
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The msp3 does not allow full power to the wheels at first two gears, these DBW cars...
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That's genius except you cannot launch it or burnout you know at the track. How much power in the first two gears? Does that mean lower or higher ratio for 1-2 and 3+?
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Tosa1962
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techline wrote:
Tosa1962 wrote:
you_cheap wrote:
from the article, it sounds like honda is buliding a new turbo? or am i wrong... probably they are just gonna put the 2.3L I4 turbo in from the RDX i suppose. This is exciting news but it would burn off the front tires if it were left FWD. quite sad. (like the mspd3)
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The msp3 does not allow full power to the wheels at first two gears, these DBW cars...
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That's genius except you cannot launch it or burnout you know at the track. How much power in the first two gears? Does that mean lower or higher ratio for 1-2 and 3+?
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"Since 280 lb.-ft. is a lot of torque to harness to a 3180-lb. front-drive car, the Mazdaspeed3 uses a torque management system that doesn't allow full power in 1st and 2nd gears."
http://www.roadandtrack.com/article.asp?section_id=3&article_id=4196
The ratio for first (3.54:1) and second (2.24:1) is normal, even the final drive is average 3.94:1 for first four gears.
http://www.roadandtrack.com/assets/download/mazdaspeed3.pdf
It wouldn't surprise me if Honda waters down the power this way... no I'm convinced this is the way they'll rein in the power.
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supernoman
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From the articles I've read, the power is only held back if the wheels are turned. For straight launches, it should be full power for the Speed3
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Tosa1962
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supernoman wrote:
From the articles I've read, the power is only held back if the wheels are turned. For straight launches, it should be full power for the Speed3
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Thank you for the correction, It appears R&T forgot the steering part.
For straight launches, power is held back for gear selection AND steering position.
"Routing 263 hp and 280 lb-ft of torque efficiently through the front tires is the job of the mechanical limited-slip differential and sophisticated torque management undertaken by the engine control computer. Torque is limited based on two criteria — gear selection and steering position — and is especially noticeable while cornering in 1st or 2nd gears."
http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do/Drives/FullTests/articleId=116868
I don't mean to come across snarky.
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blu
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Tosa1962 wrote:
you_cheap wrote:
from the article, it sounds like honda is buliding a new turbo? or am i wrong... probably they are just gonna put the 2.3L I4 turbo in from the RDX i suppose. This is exciting news but it would burn off the front tires if it were left FWD. quite sad. (like the mspd3)
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The msp3 does not allow full power to the wheels at first two gears, these DBW cars...
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According to Mazda, DBW is used strictly for the purpose of restricting full torque in the first two gears. When I test drove it, I didn't get that whole rev hang thing that the Si has. :(
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