Deak69
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According to Canadian Driver:
Base $41000 CDN
w/Tech pkg. $45000 CDN
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Phil17
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wow, a lot cheaper than I expected. should be a winner here in Canada.
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2K5TSX
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Nice... just below the TL. Will have to test drive one when it arrives @ Canadian dealers.
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kidoairaku
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I think its priced right, as long as Acura doesn't expect to sell these like TSX's.
Hopefully, the price will discourage price shopping these with RAV4's, CX-7's and CRV's... the less RDX's on the road the more appealing it will be.
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duncan
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Considering a top of line, fully loaded CX-7 is goes for over $41K, and has features that matches the RDX's (at least on paper), it would be pretty hard for people NOT to cross-shop these two vehicles. This is especially so since the two carmakers have publicly stated they are targeting the same market niche w/ their respective product--high income single (primarily male) professionals & DINKs.
With such a narrow market, no doubt the RDX will not sell as well as the TSX. But I also suspect it'll lose sales as buyers will either opt for the relatively cheaper Mazda or wait for the upcoming brand new '07 X3. Either way I don't see the RDX's appeal increasing by much, if at all. I think Acura has a loser on its hands.
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Phil17
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there's always going to ppl who cross shop based on price. however, at the same time, there are people who don't cross shop based solely on price points. I know I for one do'nt consider Mazda a premium brand so regardless of what they build, i probably won't consider their car. seen a couple of CX-7's already and it sure is starting to look ugly
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2K5TSX
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duncan wrote:
This is especially so since the two carmakers have publicly stated they are targeting the same market niche w/ their respective product--high income single (primarily male) professionals & DINKs.
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haha dinks?
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duncan
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I think generally there are 3 types of carbuyers, regardless of their demographics and the type of vehicles they seek. First, you have the price sensitive group who don't care if a brand is premium or not--they see it being a cheaper, comparable vehicle being a better deal on paper and will go for it (e.g.: the CX-7). The second are the snobs who only go for top brand names, i.e.: BMW, and don't consider Acura luxury enuff to be worthy of their attention. What's left is a minority in the middle who wants both value & brandname (and will go for the RDX). While I only have gut instincts to back me up, I still suspect this third group will be too small to make the RDX a success by any standards, again considering how small the targeted market niche is in general, and in Canada especially.
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duncan
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Double Income No Kids--DINKs
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2K5TSX
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True. I'm type 3.... but in the back of my mind I would also wonder if for less money I could get more performance and fuel economy out of a RAV-4 V6. I wouldn't consider owning another Mazda (have one now).
But your sorta in the same boat when buying a TSX... it's not cheap, not really fuel efficient, not super high performance... just a blend of all 3 really... the better value would be an Accord V6 EX but.... I wanted my TSX for looks, handling, Brand, Service and the overall package. I guess also also fit the bill of a "DINK" haha no kids yet
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duncan
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You can say the same for the Acura brandname overall as well. It's a premium brand, but still gets compared to more mass market cars, while being mostly shunned by hardcore luxury car buyers. It's products don't line up neatly against competitors' product lines; Acura cars tend to fall in between other carmakers' segments. The TSX compares well vs. the 325, but isn't even considered a peer for the 330. The TL more matches up to the 330, but isn't a true competitor w/ the 5-series. I think this "brand schizophrenia" is a reason why Acura hasn't gained the marketwide respect & cache of Lexus.
BTW, my wife & I are diehard DINKs ourselves. We both agree that if we ever were to get a SUV, we would consider the CX-7 before the RDX. On the other hand, we both have our hearts set on the TSX as the eventual replacement for my RSX-S. I guess we're a little schizo ourselves! :)
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duncan
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You can say the same for the Acura brandname overall as well. It's a premium brand, but still gets compared to more mass market cars, while being mostly shunned by hardcore luxury car buyers. It's products don't line up neatly against competitors' product lines; Acura cars tend to fall in between other carmakers' segments. The TSX compares well vs. the 325, but isn't even considered a peer for the 330. The TL more than matches up to the 330, but isn't a true competitor w/ the 5series. I think it's this "brand schizophrenia" is a reason why Acura hasn't gained the marketwide respect & cache of Lexus.
BTW, my wife & I are diehard DINKs ourselves. We both agree that if we ever were to get a SUV, we would consider the CX-7 before the RDX. On the other hand, we both have our hearts set on the TSX as the eventual replacement for my RSX-S. I guess we're a little schizo ourselves! :)
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CanadaCraig
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NICE?! What's 'nice' about it?
In the U.S. a base RDX has an MSRP of $32,995 U.S. Converted into Canadian dollars - that's $36,827 CDN. So why will the base RDX - IN Canada - cost $41,000 CDN?!
In the U.S. an RDX with the 'Technology Package' has an MSRP of $36,495 U.S. Converted into Canadian dollars - that's $40,734 CDN. So why will the RDX with the 'Technology Package' - IN Canada - cost $45,000 CDN?!
But this isn't the first time Acura of Canada has over-charged Canadians. The worst example is the RL.
A 2006 Acura RL with the 'technology package' cost $53770 [including destination] in the U.S. Converted to Canadian dollars - that's $59,993 CDN. So WHY does the RL in Canada cost $70,930?
And if you look at the destination charge - in the U.S. it costs $670 U.S. to have your Acura shipped to your dealer. Converted into Canadian dollars - that $747 CDN. And yet Canadians have to pay $1,430 CDN.
When you do the math. Canadians are being cheated by Acura.
Craig!! :o)
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ThE DoUgLeR
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the reason why the canadian models are more expensive is because back in the 90's when the canadian dollar was worth only 55 cents american, the car manufacters did not increase the price of their cars to compensate for the weak canadian dollar. Now with the canadian dollar being much stronger, they are not adjusting the prices in order to compensate for the hits they took back then. If the canadian dollar maintains its strength for the next few years the prices will drop in line with the american price after the companies recover their previous losses. Canadians are being ripped off now, but in 97 americans were getting screwed, so it's all fair in the end.
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Ekritikos
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I agree with Craig on this toppic about automakers not adjusting their prices to the new found strength of our "loonie"
I know for a fact that if a Canadian buyer wanted they go to down to the US and buy a Honda or Acura product such as the RDX from the a US dealer and drive it back to Canada,you would pay just GST at the boarder. If you buy the car in a state that doesn't have sales tax such as Montana and Oregon I believe and you bring it back say to Alberta you only pay the 6% GST at the boarder. Also since the RDX and most other Honda products are manufactured in North America you don't pay import duties either, but in the case of like a current model CR-V, S2000 Acura RL etc which are all built in Japan you would have to pay import duties at the Canadian boarder as well.
Truth is you could fly south, buy an RDX and save enough to have a little vacation on the side.
Thanks,
Evan
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creativeguy
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Just curious if a US dealer *CAN* sell a car to someone with a foreign address/residency. I live in the US and when I bought my last car, they based the sales tax on my home zip code. So buying a car in a state with no sales tax (or even a county with cheaper tax) won't help since they charge you your home tax rate regardless. Wondering if they can even sell to a foreign buyer and (if so) do they somehow charge you your Canadian tax rate.
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duncan
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A few mths ago, the Toronto Star had an article about this exact topic. They inquired with several Buffalo area dealerships about Cdns buying cars from them. Every dealer told the Star they're forbidden by the respective carmaker from selling to Cdns; if they do, they can lose their contract. The carmakers are adamant about making up for losses incurred in the 90s when the exchange rate situation was reversed.
Besides, buying a car in the US and bringing it over to Canada would void the warrantee, unless you bring the car back to the US each time for servicing. The alternative would be to get an aftermarket warrantee, but I don't know how complicated that can be.
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