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Si-newby
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How to remove a black fly crap/sap mark on Hab. red Si?    (Score: 1, Normal) 03-09-2006 01:23
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I just noticed recently after washing my new Hab. red Si that there is a very small teardrop shaped black mark on the surface of the paint that was not there before. To me it looks like the hard black junk a fly leaves when it craps on something; I hope someone knows what I mean by this.
The tiny black mark is clearly sitting on top of the paint/clearcoat but I cannot seem to get it off. I thought that just using a wet cloth rag would wipe it off but this didn't work, it's really set on there! Then I tried one time with Meguair's Scratch X with no luck... It is a very little spot but it's driving me crazy. I could probably use my finger to scratch it off but that would scratch the clearcoat for sure.

Anyone please help me with some ideas on how to remove this black spot. Thanks!
ihatesi
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Re: How to remove a black fly crap/sap mark on Hab. red Si?    (Score: 1, Normal) 03-09-2006 02:30
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There are sap removers designed for sap from trees.
You can try that.

jquintin714
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Re: How to remove a black fly crap/sap mark on Hab. red Si?    (Score: 1, Normal) 03-09-2006 05:49
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I just used TURTLE WAX Bug and Tar and tree sap Remover yesterday on my silver SI on a black COLD PATCH(asphalt) spot. I'm in CT and thats what they use to fill potholes in- stuff is terrible. Came off the very first application. I've used it for a couple years now and it really works fantastic.
jquintin714
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Re: How to remove a black fly crap/sap mark on Hab. red Si?    (Score: 1, Normal) 03-09-2006 05:50
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Comes in a YELLOW spray aerosol can.
Si-newby
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Re: How to remove a black fly crap/sap mark on Hab. red Si?    (Score: 1, Normal) 03-09-2006 07:47
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jquintin714 wrote:
I just used TURTLE WAX Bug and Tar and tree sap Remover yesterday on my silver SI on a black COLD PATCH(asphalt) spot. I'm in CT and thats what they use to fill potholes in- stuff is terrible. Came off the very first application. I've used it for a couple years now and it really works fantastic.

I will try that, thanks!
Si-newby
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Re: How to remove a black fly crap/sap mark on Hab. red Si?    (Score: 1, Normal) 03-09-2006 20:38
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Turtle Wax Bug/Tar remover didn't do anything for my "black spot"? I am wondering if rubbing compound would work? Anyone have any recommendations or experience with rubbing compound? Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!
ChiPhiZD
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Re: How to remove a black fly crap/sap mark on Hab. red Si?    (Score: 1, Normal) 03-15-2006 13:53
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For years I have been going to the same detail shop to do my yearly engine detail. I asked him what he uses to get bugs and sap off of his cars. He told me windex or anything with ammonia. Spray it on, let it sit for 60 seconds and it just rubs off. I have tried it, it works I also live in CT and it removes tar, sap, bugs. Just remember to wash that area of the car off once done. You dont want ammonia sitting on the clearcoat after that.
Si-newby
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Re: How to remove a black fly crap/sap mark on Hab. red Si?    (Score: 1, Normal) 03-15-2006 16:05
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ChiPhiZD wrote:
For years I have been going to the same detail shop to do my yearly engine detail. I asked him what he uses to get bugs and sap off of his cars. He told me windex or anything with ammonia. Spray it on, let it sit for 60 seconds and it just rubs off. I have tried it, it works I also live in CT and it removes tar, sap, bugs. Just remember to wash that area of the car off once done. You dont want ammonia sitting on the clearcoat after that.

Thanks for the tip! I have tried two different types of "bug/tar removers" with no luck whatsoever so far. I have tried Turtle Wax and also Stoner Tarminator, which I thought would work great since Stoner products usually do...but it didn't even touch it! The spot is a tear drop shaped tiny black spot that almost looks like paint it's so caked on there. I'm thinking that it might be tar? I'll try the Windex before I go to a body shop for help, it would be a whole lot cheaper.
Shizznaz
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Re: How to remove a black fly crap/sap mark on Hab. red Si?    (Score: 1, Normal) 03-16-2006 14:57
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dude.. paint thinner.. In fact. take a pic of what you are talking about.
ChiPhiZD
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Re: How to remove a black fly crap/sap mark on Hab. red Si?    (Score: 1, Normal) 03-17-2006 15:55
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Si-Newby....how did the windex work out for ya?
Trip
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Re: How to remove a black fly crap/sap mark on Hab. red Si?    (Score: 1, Normal) 03-17-2006 16:54
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You might want to try clay bar. It gets off bugs, tar, and even minute oxidation and contaminants in the paint.

You spray the lubricant on a small section of paint (detailers mist) and then rub the clay bar on it. I clay my cars in the spring to get the winter grime off of them.

Mother's and Mequiar's sell kits with a bottle of mist and a clay bar.

**Clay bar works great on windhshiedls, too - better than Rain X IMO. It removes the residue that cause wipers to streak and chatter.
Urufu san
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Re: How to remove a black fly crap/sap mark on Hab. red Si?    (Score: 1, Normal) 03-19-2006 17:55
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Hey guys. I have a same problem with sap. It's on my friend's mom's Explorer. It's all over the hood and it looks like if someone sneezed on the hood when they had soda in their mouth. I don't know how long it's been on there, but it's pretty much caked on hard. I bought a bottle of Turtle Wax Bug/Tar/Sap remover but it didn't even make a difference. My friend's mom told me to use the rough green side of one of those dishwashing sponges to take it off. I tried it, and it works kinda good although I had to rub pretty hard. I was worried about scratching the paint (really don't care since it's a Ford lol but I don't want to piss off my friend's mom). I doubt the clay bar will work since it took me a while to scratch one of those sap drops with my fingernail. I also tried using one of those ice scrapers for the windshield lol But none works effectively. Did anyone have an experience with this before?
Si-newby
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Re: How to remove a black fly crap/sap mark on Hab. red Si?    (Score: 1, Normal) 03-21-2006 21:06
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Trip wrote:
You might want to try clay bar. It gets off bugs, tar, and even minute oxidation and contaminants in the paint.

You spray the lubricant on a small section of paint (detailers mist) and then rub the clay bar on it. I clay my cars in the spring to get the winter grime off of them.

Mother's and Mequiar's sell kits with a bottle of mist and a clay bar.

**Clay bar works great on windhshiedls, too - better than Rain X IMO. It removes the residue that cause wipers to streak and chatter.


I will try the clay bar before taking it in to a professional. Nothing has worked on this, not even the Windex :o( I'm sure that this spot is tar and wasn't on my Si when I brought her home new. It is caked on so bad that it looks like a black drop of paint. I guess the good thing is that it is only one very small spot and not all over the car. There's got to be something the pros use to wipe this gunk right off but I haven't found it yet.

Thanks to all of you for helping me and I will remember your advice if I have any other spots in the future.
 
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