Demitri434
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I recently posted a message which I got no replies. I was wondering what some of the owners of the RSX Type-S have done in terms of break in. I am only revving up to 4000 revs for about 1000 miles (Iheard somewhere that this worked I dont remember where). I know people have posted on this before but it didn't seem like anyone had any idea as to the best method. I want to break it in and for the car to last me so any help would be much appreciated
-Alex
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RyanDL
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That sounds good. Try to avoid full throttle and any long trips w/o varying your speed. Also, be good to the brakes and clutch for the first 250 mi. or so.
Of course, there's also the school of thought that you can run the car as hard as you want from the get-go. Up to you.
Ryan
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mkrsx2003
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i did a mixture of both. i never took it too 8100 til 800 miles.
600 miles -7000 rpm, 800 miles 8100rpm, 1000 do whatever u want.
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bboule
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I think you're doing the right thing, the manual tells you what honda recommends.
There is very very little solid scientific evidence in favor of the "beat it hard" school of break-ins. Almost all the evidence for that way of breaking an engine in is for race motors, there is almost no empirical evidence showing what that does to the engine over a long lifetime.
I did what you're doing, but keep in mind if the dealer ever drove the car before delivery, they probably beat on it so it may not matter what you did!
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RyanDL
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bboule wrote:
I think you're doing the right thing, the manual tells you what honda recommends.
There is very very little solid scientific evidence in favor of the "beat it hard" school of break-ins. Almost all the evidence for that way of breaking an engine in is for race motors, there is almost no empirical evidence showing what that does to the engine over a long lifetime.
I did what you're doing, but keep in mind if the dealer ever drove the car before delivery, they probably beat on it so it may not matter what you did!
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I would tend to agree with you on not breaking-in the motor hard. However, a friend and local S2K owner has driven his '00 S2000 hard from day 1. It now has over 75K miles and consistently dynos on the high end of S2K engines from that year, including lots of track and auto-x miles.
Not saying I condone it, but there's evidence around to suggest it isn't as bad as people might think.
Ryan
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bboule
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A track car and anecdotal evidence...
Everyone is free to do what they want but the manufacturers do come up with these procedures after lots of scientific testing. There is no database out there of diffferences in HP, compression ratio on a leakdown test, oil burning, etc.. on cars with 150k miles that can compare between cars with manufacturer break-ins and "beat on it" breakins.
But anyway what is the break-in for the S2000? If it is anything like the RSX it is probably OK to drive it hard right? Honda just says don't drive a steady speed on the highway, there is no RPM limitation.
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RyanDL
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bboule wrote:
But anyway what is the break-in for the S2000? If it is anything like the RSX it is probably OK to drive it hard right? Honda just says don't drive a steady speed on the highway, there is no RPM limitation.
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Yeah, all Hondas are essentially the same break-in procedures.
Ryan
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8000RPM
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But, could the manufacturers recommended break-in procedure bring them in more high-mileage maintenance???? Something I have always wondered. This article speaks of beating it from the get-go to properly shape the piston rings, but with precise assembly of engines these days, I'm not sure it would make a difference. I'm still on the fence.
http://www.mototuneusa.com/break_in_secrets.htm
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hondaracer
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bboule wrote:
A track car and anecdotal evidence...
Everyone is free to do what they want but the manufacturers do come up with these procedures after lots of scientific testing. There is no database out there of diffferences in HP, compression ratio on a leakdown test, oil burning, etc.. on cars with 150k miles that can compare between cars with manufacturer break-ins and "beat on it" breakins.
But anyway what is the break-in for the S2000? If it is anything like the RSX it is probably OK to drive it hard right? Honda just says don't drive a steady speed on the highway, there is no RPM limitation.
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I'd have to go look at my manual, but I'm pretty sure Honda recommends keeping the S2000 out of vtec (6000rpm) for the first few miles.
I wonder if the break-in policy isn't anything more than a liability keep-their-ass-out-of-trouble thing. Or at least like one other poster hypothesized, a means of dictating service intervals...
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RyanDL
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8000RPM wrote:
But, could the manufacturers recommended break-in procedure bring them in more high-mileage maintenance???? Something I have always wondered. This article speaks of beating it from the get-go to properly shape the piston rings, but with precise assembly of engines these days, I'm not sure it would make a difference. I'm still on the fence.
http://www.mototuneusa.com/break_in_secrets.htm
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Manufacturers want customers to be happy, not making money on high mileage repairs. It's very common for Honda engines to see 200+K miles without any work other than oil changes and basic maintenance.
The "safe" break-in method works. The "hard" method is questionable.
Ryan
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BOOMER
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I've read the same article on other sites, and some respondents say it works best on motorcycles. Everyone has their own ideas about breakin, but varying speed and not stressing the engine early for long periods of full throttle acceration seems to work best. I don't run my new engines hard until I've put on the miles recommended in the Manual, then I tend to drive normally. Ocassionally running to redline in gear, and running to the torque peak and hp peak when the circumstances allow it.
I don't punish my cars, but I don't coddle them either. Works fine for me.
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