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sradbims76
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what the heck is "ps" [View News Item]    (Score: 1, Normal) 12-15-2004 12:30
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Is "ps" some way to measure Japanese horsepower? Is ps a typo? 500 ps means nothing to me, unless you can say its horses, or "ponies". Anyone know what it is?
Akarso
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Re: what the heck is "ps" [View News Item]    (Score: 1, Normal) 12-15-2004 12:52
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Stands for "Pferdestärke". It's basically the metric equivalant of "horse power".

That's what Europe and Asia uses to rate the power of their vehicles, kw & ps.

So 500 ps is about 493.15 hp once you do the conversion.
Wizard
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Re: what the heck is "ps" [View News Item]    (Score: 1, Normal) 12-15-2004 13:17
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True, but Honda seems to simply use "ps" as a replacement for "HP" in the Japanese market. For example:

They had 260 ps Inspire (we had 260 HP TL-S)
They have 300 ps Legend (we have 300 HP RL)
They have 160 ps Integra (we have 160 HP RSX)
They have 160 ps K24A (we have 160 HP K24A)

And so on. So, 500 ps could really be 500 HP here, as well.


Akarso wrote:
Stands for "Pferdestärke". It's basically the metric equivalant of "horse power".

That's what Europe and Asia uses to rate the power of their vehicles, kw & ps.

So 500 ps is about 493.15 hp once you do the conversion.


wingman
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Unit Conversion Ratios (hp vs ps) [View News Item]    (Score: 1, Normal) 12-15-2004 13:48
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1 ps = 0.98632 hp

or

1 hp = 1.01387 ps
aznstuart
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Re: what the heck is "ps" [View News Item]    (Score: 1, Normal) 12-15-2004 18:24
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wait
i thought the Japanese Inspire was the American Accord, not the TL
IntegraDC5R
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Re: what the heck is "ps" [View News Item]    (Score: 1, Normal) 12-15-2004 18:32
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You are correct, the Inspire is the US market Accord.
Wizard
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Re: what the heck is "ps" [View News Item]    (Score: 1, Normal) 12-15-2004 21:19
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I was referring to 1999-2003 Inspire which was Acura TL in North America (and Inspire had a twin, called Saber). It is with the redesign that the new Inspire got the American Accord look on the outside (interior is similar to TSX however).

Inspire/Saber were launched with 2.5/V6 good for 200 ps/178 lb.-ft, and 3.2/V6 rated at 225 ps (we got TL at 225 HP).

Soon after, 260 ps version of the 3.2/V6 replaced the 225 ps (and we got 260 HP in TL-S).



aznstuart wrote:
wait
i thought the Japanese Inspire was the American Accord, not the TL


ScudRacer
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Re: what the heck is "ps" [View News Item]    (Score: 1, Normal) 12-15-2004 22:34
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Should be capital P and S right? Pfederstarke.
xzotyqarz
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Re: what the heck is "ps" [View News Item]    (Score: 1, Normal) 12-15-2004 22:42
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at honda japanese website, looking under 'grade-data' (their version of our 'specs'), they'll typically use kW [and put PS in square brackets] for power and used to mention an approximate '0.7355 kW/PS' conversion factor, which is practical enough:

power (english) or puissance (french)

ps = puissance (power in french)
cv = cheval-vapeur (steam-horse in french)

horsepower:
hp(550 ft-lbf/s) = bhp(British horsepower)
hp(USmetric) = cv = ps = hp(SAE Net)

kW=kilowatt power

A = bhp = hp(550 ft-lbf/s) = kW / 0.745699871582
and
B = hp(USmetric) or cv or ps = kW / 0.735498750

so roughly:
hp(550 ft-lbf/s) / hp(USmetric) = A / B
= 1.01387

and its inverse:
B / A = 0.98632

some round just to 1.01387, 1.0139, or 1.014 and the inverse to 0.9863 or .986.

recent convention uses just 1.014

the british will persist with their 550 or bhp version of hp, while the

rest of us including USA, have moved to USmetric version of hp = cv = ps = SAE Net hp

some in the US are still use to the 550 or bhp version.
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DestinedSoul21
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Re: what the heck is "ps" [View News Item]    (Score: 1, Normal) 12-16-2004 00:19
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In the US BHP normally refers to Brake Horsepower, which is horsepower measured at the crankshaft using a dynamometer or "brake."
tartje
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Re: what the heck is "ps" [View News Item]    (Score: 1, Normal) 12-21-2004 05:29
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are you talking out of your arse?

we refer to bhp in this country as brake horse power, the imperial unit of measuring power in an engine. not british horse power, did you make that up? if in america you use a different way of calculating it, thats not our problem.

why even bother with your own metric way of doing it?? why not use the PS metric equivalent or stick with old school bhp.

seems to me stupidity comes free with everything over there
kiwikungfu
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U.S. metric horse power [View News Item]    (Score: 1, Normal) 12-21-2004 13:32
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and we still measure our gas in miles per gallon. i live here and i don't even really understand that one. litres per kilometer actually relate to other things in the world.

and we should just use KW, i've ridden a horse but i sure can't imagine 280 of them under my hood.
tartje
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Re: U.S. metric horse power [View News Item]    (Score: 1, Normal) 12-21-2004 15:46
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after i went away i remembered reading what hp actually is, i cant remember the exact definition, but i know it was a measurement of power back in the days of when horses used to pull coal out of mines.

something along the lines of how far a horse can pull a specific weight in a certain amount of time, or how much work it can do.
 
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