[home][rumors and news][model release matrix][dealer network][desktop calendar][exhaust notes][tov forums][links][search][sponsors][garage][login]

Tire Rack Upgrade Garage
 Search for a Dealer:
 Canadian Flag US Flag
 Honda Acura
 ZIP  
2017 Acura NSX Supercar Claims Class Victory in North American Racing Debut at Pikes Peak
More.......................
BREAKING: Hondata releases reflash for L15B7 (10th Gen Civic 1.5 Turbo), and we tested it
More.......................
Refreshed 2017 Acura MDX Launches Tomorrow (June 22, 2016)
More.......................
All-New 2017 Honda Ridgeline Launches Nationwide
More.......................
Acura NSX-Inspired EV Concept Ready to 'Charge Up' Pikes Peak
More.......................
Neal's Fantasy Factory Tantalizes with the Acura TLX "2020 Vision" Concept
More.......................
2017 Acura NSX Supercar to Make its North American Racing Debut at 2016 Pikes Peak
More.......................
American Honda Reports May Sales Results
More.......................
NSX --> Re: Reasons
Join Discussion......
Professional Motorsports --> Re: Assen MotoGP - spoilers
Join Discussion......
Today's Reading Links --> Re: VW to install BEV and FCEV charging network as part of settlement
Join Discussion......
Today's Reading Links --> Re: Particulate filters for gasoline cars coming by 2017
Join Discussion......
Civic --> Re: 06 Si and Takata
Join Discussion......
Civic --> Re: 2017 Civic Hatchback
Join Discussion......
General Talk --> Hemi Under Glass Rolls, and Jay Leno is the passenger
Join Discussion......
Strictly Technical --> Re: Mazda G Vectoring
Join Discussion......
General Talk --> Re: Shipping a Vehicle
Join Discussion......
Today's Reading Links --> Re: Honda/Acura below average on quality? WTF?
Join Discussion......
Today's Reading Links --> Re: Greatest commercials of all time! Hyundai!
Join Discussion......
General Talk --> Re: Vehicle Dependability and IQS
Join Discussion......
Civic --> Re: 10th Gen Civic 5-Door
Join Discussion......
Civic --> Re: 2016 Honda Civic problems, error messages & warnings
Join Discussion......
Strictly Technical --> Re: C&D: Turbo vs N/A transient response
Join Discussion......
TOV Video: 2017 Honda Ridgeline ride along
Read Article....................
2017 Honda Ridgeline PR Photo Gallery
Read Article....................
First Drive: 2017 Acura NSX(!)
Read Article....................
2017 Acura NSX PR Photo Gallery
Read Article....................
TOV Video: Guy Melville-Brown talks about the 2016 Civic Coupe design
Read Article....................
TOV Video: John Hwang introduces the 2016 Civic Coupe
Read Article....................

[fancy] [flat] [simple]
TOV Forums > General Talk > > Re: Its getting dirty in the hybrid market in Japan!

Go to:

Viewing Threshold (What is this?)

Thread Page - [1]
Author
  Post New Thread
RolledaNsx
Profile for RolledaNsx
Its getting dirty in the hybrid market in Japan!    (Score: 1, Normal) 08-29-2013 20:47
Reply to This Message Attach Quote to Reply
Toyota has ruled the game for the last 10 years with their better hybrid system and Japanese always buy Toyota unless the the other brands offerings is way better!

Honda finally woke up and is how offering the best hybrids in the market!!!!!!

And it looks like to keep their customers,Toyota is pretty much making their new hybrids Honda like(looks and close copy of Honda's hybrid systems).

Yesterday...Toyota just released the MMC of the Toyota Sai Hybrid and it looks like the 2014 Honda Accord Hybrid!!!!

Undercuts the Accord price but can't come close to the Accord's mpg rating...22.4 km/l to 30.0 km/l

Yep Honda finally made three hybrid systems that KICK ASS!!!!!

longhorn
Profile for longhorn
Re: Its getting dirty in the hybrid market in Japan!    (Score: 1, Normal) 08-29-2013 22:14
Reply to This Message Attach Quote to Reply
Well here in the states the Toy name is synonymous with hybrid technology and GM and Ford have come out with systems that have better mpg numbers than Toy. But what do the sale numbers (the ultimate yard stick) show?.......Its not Toyota who has to prove something.

Honda has a good base with the Accord selling so strong,it will be interesting how many Hybrid trims Honda can sell. It will depend on the marketing. And the Fit hybrid has the ability to take it to the Prius C and surpass it, but it will take great marketing to break the Toyota hybrid mindset.
JIRZLEE
Profile for JIRZLEE
Re: Its getting dirty in the hybrid market in Japan!    (Score: 1, Normal) 08-29-2013 22:24
Reply to This Message Attach Quote to Reply
I'm not so sure we will even get the Fit Hybrid in the USA
HondaJet
Profile for HondaJet
Re: Its getting dirty in the hybrid market in Japan!    (Score: 1, Normal) 08-29-2013 23:34
Reply to This Message Attach Quote to Reply
longhorn wrote:
Well here in the states the Toy name is synonymous with hybrid technology and GM and Ford have come out with systems that have better mpg numbers than Toy. But what do the sale numbers (the ultimate yard stick) show?.......Its not Toyota who has to prove something.

Honda has a good base with the Accord selling so strong,it will be interesting how many Hybrid trims Honda can sell. It will depend on the marketing. And the Fit hybrid has the ability to take it to the Prius C and surpass it, but it will take great marketing to break the Toyota hybrid mindset.




Code words: "great marketing"

Hey, start something special...(sarcastically)

looah
Profile for looah
Re: Its getting dirty in the hybrid market in Japan!    (Score: 1, Normal) 08-30-2013 04:10
Reply to This Message Attach Quote to Reply
It seems Toyota are even copying Honda's design!

http://youtu.be/J1Fdd5s9Yw0

A video of the Sai?
Nick GravesX
Profile for Nick GravesX
Re: Its getting dirty in the hybrid market in Japan!    (Score: 1, Normal) 08-30-2013 04:59
Reply to This Message Attach Quote to Reply
It must be a Toyota - I fell asleep.

Rolled, so they're copying Honda's lock-up-locomotive drivetrain instead of their HSD? That would be a REAL marketing coup for Honda - if they knew how to bring a gun to a knife fight...

xBeastx
Profile for xBeastx
Re: Its getting dirty in the hybrid market in Japan!    (Score: 1, Normal) 08-30-2013 10:49
Reply to This Message Attach Quote to Reply
JIRZLEE wrote:
I'm not so sure we will even get the Fit Hybrid in the USA


I think it would do tenfold better than the Insight.
JIRZLEE
Profile for JIRZLEE
Re: Its getting dirty in the hybrid market in Japan!    (Score: 1, Normal) 08-30-2013 17:03
Reply to This Message Attach Quote to Reply
Well if we don't get the Fit Hybrid hopefully we will get a completely rethought Insight. But unless a new Insight gets much better mileage than the Fit it is pretty pointless other than reducing practicality. I'd love to see a return to an aluminum chassis like the Gen 1 or some other weight saving material.
integrator
Profile for integrator
Re: Its getting dirty in the hybrid market in Japan!    (Score: 1, Normal) 09-02-2013 08:20
Reply to This Message Attach Quote to Reply
Thats an interesting point. Honda really focused on engine friction reduction as their plan in the early 2000's and left behind the weight reduction approach until very recently. The motivation was the cost of materials. I'm glad to see this approach returned with the increased high strength steel content in the latest releases and under-vehicle aero aids. But I agree that the next step should be a novel approach. At the sales numbers they'd like to push a small hybrid, I don't think it will be aluminum which has some limitations.
 
Thread Page - [1]
Go to:
Contact TOV | Submit Your Article | Submit Your Link | Advertise | TOV Shop | Events | Our Sponsors | TOV Archives
Copyright © 2014 Velocitech Inc. All information contained herein remains the property of Velocitech Inc.
The Temple of VTEC is not affiliated with American Honda Motor Co., Inc. TOV Policies and Guidelines - Credits - Privacy Policy
mobile: 0