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  TOV News > Honda Debuts 'Variable Cylinder Management' V6 3.0-liter i-VTEC Engine > > Re: So this i-VTEC doesnt have VTC??..NO

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TheAnswer
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So this i-VTEC doesnt have VTC?? [View News Item]    (Score: 1, Normal) 06-18-2003 17:39
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From the reading it seems that this is another version of i-VTEC just for managing the active cylinders. So, it doesn't do anything more than a normal VTEC to increase the performance of the engine right?
Wizard
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Re: So this i-VTEC doesnt have VTC?? [View News Item]    (Score: 1, Normal) 06-18-2003 17:50
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The following link may have the answer:
http://babelfish.altavista.com/babelfish/urltrurl?lp=ja_en&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.honda.co.jp%2Ffactbook%2Fauto%2FINSPIRE%2F200306%2F04.html
TheAnswer
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Re: So this i-VTEC doesnt have VTC?? [View News Item]    (Score: 1, Normal) 06-18-2003 18:37
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Thx for the link Wizard. No mention of VTC. Hopefully the next TL will incorporate that in.
Colin
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Re: So this i-VTEC doesnt have VTC?? [View News Item]    (Score: 1, Normal) 06-18-2003 23:53
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TheAnswer wrote:
From the reading it seems that this is another version of i-VTEC just for managing the active cylinders. So, it doesn't do anything more than a normal VTEC to increase the performance of the engine right?



The "i" in "i-VTEC" is the VTC. It must have it?? Right??? I'm confused, no mention if this engine has twin cams or not, so far this has been a feature of all the i-VTEC engines. IMO I cannot see how you can have VTC without having a DOHC layout.
mariobros100
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Re: So this i-VTEC doesnt have VTC??..NO [View News Item]    (Score: 1, Normal) 06-19-2003 00:10
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They used the "i" for the " i-DSI" engines which are a very, very simple two valve layout engines , however their "variability" is on the ignition side.

Now on this case (V6 engines) you can see clearly that is the same layout as the current engine -SOHC with no VTC - so in this case the "i" denotes the variability in switching "on" or "off" one bank of cylinders; that would be my educated guess.
RichMack
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Re: So this i-VTEC doesnt have VTC?? [View News Item]    (Score: 1, Normal) 06-19-2003 12:25
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If you to Honda website (www.honda.co.jp) there's a video on the new engine and from what I see it looks like a SOHC configutation. Correct me if I'm wrong.

And no ones's said it (i don't think) but that engine cover is goergeous looking.



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n8dog82
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Clear this up [View News Item]    (Score: 1, Normal) 06-19-2003 14:52
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VTEC + VTC = i-VTEC

All i-vtec engines have VTC, that is what the "i" is for. If the new 3.0L didn't have VTC it would be just plain VTEC.
Xavi77
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Re: Clear this up [View News Item]    (Score: 1, Normal) 06-19-2003 20:09
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There is not where is said the new J30 series has vtc. But honda did state is a ivtec. So what?
Colin
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Re: So this i-VTEC doesnt have VTC??..NO [View News Item]    (Score: 1, Normal) 06-21-2003 14:36
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mariobros100 wrote:
They used the "i" for the " i-DSI" engines which are a very, very simple two valve layout engines , however their "variability" is on the ignition side.

Now on this case (V6 engines) you can see clearly that is the same layout as the current engine -SOHC with no VTC - so in this case the "i" denotes the variability in switching "on" or "off" one bank of cylinders; that would be my educated guess.



I think you're speculating on this, they are not calling it i-VCM, or i-DSI, they're calling it i-VTEC. This denotes Variable Timing Control (VTC) in Hondaspeak. I wonder if they figured out a way to incorporate VTC in a SOHC engine? I don't see how they could do this since the 'vairablility' of the intake cam is relative to the exhaust cam???

Xavi77
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Re: So this i-VTEC doesnt have VTC??..NO [View News Item]    (Score: 1, Normal) 06-21-2003 22:34
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If people can have a broader perspective, then eventually they will understand why I-vtec does not exclusively means VTC. Is pretty clear that honda did not mention any thiing about VTC on this J series motor. Altough the k series Ivtec denotes to VTC, cant i vtec be soemthing else for a other series motor?
even Vtec as a variaty of forms, so why cant the I (intellegnce) be in some other from?
 
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