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Honda 3-Cylinder Engines a Possibility, Exec Says    (Score: 1, Normal) 12-07-2012 22:07
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Ever more stringent CAFE requirements in the U.S. and CO2 regulations in Europe are squeezing automakers like never before. They’re turning to technologies and fuels they would have never considered just 10 years ago. What’s Honda’s strategy to meet these standards?


“Trend-wise, downsizing powertrains [is key]” said Tetsuo Iwamura, President and Chief Executive Officer of American Honda Motor Co., Inc. He also said small displacement engines and turbochargers “are the direction” for all automakers, but stopped short of saying if or when the capital “H” would introduce such a powertrain.

Interestingly Honda went in the opposite direction with the new Acura RDX. In its first-generation this compact luxury crossover featured a turbocharged four-banger under the hood, but the latest incarnation is powered by a 3.5-liter V6 that surprisingly delivers more power and is more efficient. Front-wheel-drive models deliver up to 28 miles per gallon on the highway.

“Three-cylinders could have a possibility as well,” Iwamura said, a statement that suggests Honda is possibly considering a small engine with an odd-cylinder count.

Next year Ford will offer a Fiesta in North America with a three-cylinder EcoBoost engine. Displacing just 1.0-liter, it delivers reasonably snappy performance and superb fuel economy. If the Blue Oval is successful with this unconventional small-car effort Honda could follow suit.

Diesel is another route to higher efficiency, but if you’ve been praying for oil-burning Hondas to land at dealerships in America keep on dreaming because it doesn’t look like that is going to happen anytime soon.

Iwamura said they would have to sell between 30,000 and 50,000 diesels in the U.S. annually to make a business case for offering them. They would also have to be made available on the Accord and Civic “to be accepted by the mass market” he said.

Cost is another issue. Diesel engines are more expensive than their gasoline counterparts as is the fuel itself. Iwamura said oil refiners in the U.S. are optimized to produce gasoline; they’d have to invest in their production facilities to make more diesel. As such there’s not enough of the fuel to go around, which increases its price.

One alt-fuel area Honda has played an active role in is compressed natural gas. With the Civic, it’s the only OEM to produce a CNG-powered passenger car in the U.S. However, on the pickup side, the 2012 Ram 2500 CNG is the sole OEM-built truck in North America to be powered by the vaporous hydrocarbon.

Of course natural gas has its own issues, from limited availability at fueling stations in the U.S. to insufficient range. But one potential advantage is home filling. Drivers can top-off their tanks from the natural-gas line in their houses. There are issues, though.

Iwamura said the CNG sold at gas stations has been dried, meaning moisture has been removed from it. This is not the case with the natural gas used in people’s homes. It contains excess water, which is very bad for vehicles. Furnaces and kitchen ranges don’t mind the extra moisture.

http://www.autoguide.com/auto-news/2012/12/honda-3-cylinder-engines-a-possibility-exec-says.html

Also see this:

Honda Must Be Faster, More Flexible Says N.A. CEO

To stay ahead of its rivals and to keep its loyal buyers coming back for more, Honda is taking “much more feedback from the market in early stages of [product] development.” When introducing vehicles he also said the company has to be more flexible, “to accommodate new comers,” adding “[it’s] very challenging.”

http://www.autoguide.com/auto-news/2012/12/honda-must-be-faster-more-flexible-says-n-a-ceo.html

danielgr
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Re: Honda 3-Cylinder Engines a Possibility, Exec Says    (Score: 1, Normal) 12-08-2012 00:04
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FTR: All of Honda minicars in Japan are powered by 3 cylinder engines, some of them with a turbo so, while the idea may seem "new" for "Global Honda", it's been a long time they are making such engines and developing the related tech.

I posted the graphs a while ago on the N-One thread, but here they are again just in case. For sure this has enough grunt to power small cars such as those selling in Europe. Refinement, real world FE, that remains to be seen.


DrWhiner
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Re: Honda 3-Cylinder Engines a Possibility, Exec Says    (Score: 1, Normal) 12-08-2012 01:42
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Well, I think the LPL of 9th gen. Accord said the next Accord would/might be powered by a turbo engine [can't remember his exact words].
MalcolmR
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Re: Honda 3-Cylinder Engines a Possibility, Exec Says    (Score: 1, Normal) 12-08-2012 02:58
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Enjoyed your post P54.

Honda's discipline is rare among corporations, and indeed, most organisations. Refreshing.

Honda has the discipline to understand the need to make profit, yet not be ruled by that and instead to be ruled by customers' needs. Honda understands the fact that profit is an outcome of fundamentals like customer satisfaction and quality and sound engineering.

Pleased to see that Honda is acknowledging need for changes. Backlash on Civic (even though it's number one seller in its category) has been taken to heart.

Amazing company. Strong even in admitting its need for improvement.

Honesty and integrity are keys to leadership.

Malcolm

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P54
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Re: Honda 3-Cylinder Engines a Possibility, Exec Says    (Score: 1, Normal) 12-10-2012 14:53
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Diesel-Powered Hondas Unlikely For US, Says Exec


Advanced diesel engines are one option automakers can turn to for complying with upcoming U.S. fuel-economy standards. German OEMs in particular are the technology’s strongest proponents, but at the opposite end of the Eurasian landmass, Honda is not so bullish.

The famous Japanese brand offers a variety of diesel-powered vehicles in the Old World, notably in the European versions of the Civic and Accord, but don’t look for torque-rich, oil-burning Hondas to make the trans-Atlantic journey anytime soon.

According to Tetsuo Iwamura, President and Chief Executive Officer of American Honda Motor Co., Inc., the company would have to sell between 30,000 and 50,000 diesels in the U.S. annually to make a business case for offering them here. He also said they would have to be offered on the Accord and Civic models “to be accepted by the mass market,” noting that Honda is a mainstream brand and customers should not have to pay a premium for its vehicles.

That’s the route Mazda is going, announcing it will be the first Japanese automaker to offer a diesel-powered passenger car in North America, starting late next year. At that time the Mazda6 diesel will hit dealers, with rumors that both the CX-5 crossover and Mazda3 compact could share the engine in a bid to make a solid business case.

Diesel engines are more efficient than their gasoline counterparts for a number of reasons. For starters, the fuel itself is about 15 percent more energy dense. Additionally, diesels run at much higher compression ratios – another efficiency advantage. Plus, with no throttle bodies restricting airflow there are fewer pumping losses – energy wasted moving air into and out of cylinders.

In spite of these benefits cost is a crippling issue. Diesel engines are more expensive to build than their gas-powered brethren because they feature more rugged construction as well as pricey fuel-injection and emissions-control systems. Even the fuel itself costs more. Beyond these factors, Iwamura said oil refiners in the U.S. are optimized to produce gasoline; they’d have to invest in their production facilities to make more diesel. As such he said there’s not enough of the fuel to go around, which increases its price.

Add it all up and in the near-term anyway it seems as though American customers will have to do without diesel-powered Hondas.

http://www.autoguide.com/auto-news/2012/12/diesel-powered-hondas-unlikely-for-u-s-says-exec.html
 
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