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RolledaNsx
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View from SEMA in Vegas.    (Score: 1, Normal) 10-30-2012 12:00
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The 2013 Honda Accord HFP..... extra $4500 for wheels,skirts,floor matts but no engine upgrades

Acura ILX Race Car... will race at the 25 hours of Thunderhill

HPD CR-Z with supercharger.... about the same power of the Mugen CR-Z but it looks like the US might get it.It looks like in the future HPD will become America Honda performance brand like Mugen is in Japan and Europe.
DCR
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Re: View from SEMA in Vegas.    (Score: 1, Normal) 10-30-2012 12:10
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Is the 2013 Civic redesign there?
NealX
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Re: View from SEMA in Vegas.    (Score: 1, Normal) 10-30-2012 14:55
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Unfortunately, no.
NealX
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Re: View from SEMA in Vegas.    (Score: 1, Normal) 10-30-2012 14:58
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^ That is, unless some secret or exclusive reveal will occur at the Honda PR gathering.
DCR
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Re: View from SEMA in Vegas.    (Score: 1, Normal) 10-30-2012 15:48
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You should check out this when you are there:

http://www.mandalaybay.com/shark-reef/

In my adult life, this was as close as I have come to pissing myself.
TonyEX
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Re: View from SEMA in Vegas.    (Score: 1, Normal) 10-30-2012 17:21
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DCR wrote:
You should check out this when you are there:

http://www.mandalaybay.com/shark-reef/

In my adult life, this was as close as I have come to pissing myself.




Huh? wimp... ;-)

We've been there. I wanted to eat sushi after that.

Just like the time my wife and I were looking at the huge tuna tank at the Monterey Bay Aquarium... almost on cue we looked at each other and we said, "Sashimi time"!

Or the time at the American Honda Christmas Party when they put the sushi bar right in front of the two story water display at the Long Beach Aquarium... I kept thinking of the "Chinese Fish Restaurant" where they keep the fish in tanks, you choose the one you want and they take it out with a net... only to reappear nicely fried with scallions, ginger root and soy sauce on a platter.

Or the time when we went to the Seattle Aquarium and later the Lake Union salmon ladder... and we stopped by Costco to buy lots of salmon to BBQ for dinner.

Aquariums make me HUNGRY...

They should have an oyster bar at the Aquariums.

DCR
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Re: View from SEMA in Vegas.    (Score: 1, Normal) 10-30-2012 17:27
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Sharks are horrifying. I attribute it to how mortifying Jaws was when I was a kid, and you will never catch me with a toe in any body of water that contains those killing machines.

Funny thing is, I had no clue they had those huge sharks in there at all. It wasn't until I was standing in the hull of the sunken ship that I figured out what was moving in the shadows out in the tank.
siegen
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Re: View from SEMA in Vegas.    (Score: 1, Normal) 10-30-2012 17:31
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RolledaNsx wrote:
The 2013 Honda Accord HFP..... extra $4500 for wheels,skirts,floor matts but no engine upgrades


What about suspension?

I can't imagine wanting different wheels than what the Sport has already. Certainly nothing larger.
RolledaNsx
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Re: View from SEMA in Vegas.    (Score: 1, Normal) 10-30-2012 17:36
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2013 Honda Accord Coupe HFP does get a suspension upgrade
and lower ride height
RolledaNsx
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Re: View from SEMA in Vegas.    (Score: 1, Normal) 10-30-2012 18:00
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And eat at Mario Balali's Carnevino Italian Steakhouse in the Palazzo Hotel.

Want a steak!

The view was nice at the Hard Rock pool during the day and XS last night!!!!! :)~
TonyEX
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Re: View from SEMA in Vegas.    (Score: 1, Normal) 10-30-2012 18:27
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DCR wrote:
Sharks are horrifying. I attribute it to how mortifying Jaws was when I was a kid, and you will never catch me with a toe in any body of water that contains those killing machines.

Funny thing is, I had no clue they had those huge sharks in there at all. It wasn't until I was standing in the hull of the sunken ship that I figured out what was moving in the shadows out in the tank.



I think of them more in terms of BBQ... Shark meat is very tasty.. rubbed with a mixture of olive oil, lemon, salt, pepper, tabasco... grilled over a hot BBQ, a bit of alioli on the side, some cold wine... Remember WE are the top of the food chain!

I lived in O'ahu when Jaws came out. Didn't go to the beach for a year after that... loved those pools then.

How could you NOT know they had sharks in there? That's what they advertise the most? You can see the sharks as you walk on down towards the tunnel.. you can see them on the pool from above.

You should see the Long Beach Aquarium.
DCR
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Re: View from SEMA in Vegas.    (Score: 1, Normal) 10-30-2012 20:16
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I didn't know anything about the tank, and figured the only sharks they had were the little ones you pet.

I was wrong.
330R
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Re: View from SEMA in Vegas.    (Score: 1, Normal) 10-30-2012 21:34
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RolledaNsx wrote:
The 2013 Honda Accord HFP..... extra $4500 for wheels,skirts,floor matts but no engine upgrades


Well that sounds about right...

RolledaNsx wrote:
Acura ILX Race Car... will race at the 25 hours of Thunderhill


What engine?


P54
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Re: View from SEMA in Vegas.    (Score: 1, Normal) 10-30-2012 22:52
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Thought about posting this before, however since some think Honda news are shill news I let it be. Since this tread started and nobody brought it up maybe for you who want more info you can look here:

Acura Unveils Supercharged 2013 ILX "Street Build"

http://hondanews.com/channels/corporate-headlines/releases/acura-unveils-supercharged-2013-ilx-street-build

A supercharged 2013 Acura ILX "Street Build" project car made its debut today in the Acura booth at the 2012 SEMA Show. Built by Evasive Motorsports, the ILX luxury sedan features an Acura Genuine Accessories aero kit and a collection of aftermarket modifications designed to provide a fun, daily drivable car that is tastefully done. The supercharged ILX "Street Build" project marks Acura’s return to the SEMA Show after a six-year hiatus, building on the strength of the all-new 2013 ILX luxury compact sedan





Acura ILX Endurance Racer to Debut at 25 Hours of Thunderhill

http://hondanews.com/channels/corporate-headlines/releases/acura-ilx-endurance-racer-to-debut-at-25-hours-of-thunderhill

Developed and prepared by Team Honda Research- West, a competition version of the new 2013 Acura ILX will be unveiled this week at the 2012 Specialty Equipment Market Association (SEMA) Show in Las Vegas, prior to making its competition debut at next month's 25 Hours of Thunderhill endurance race.






2013 Honda Accord Project Vehicle Program

http://hondanews.com/channels/corporate-headlines/releases/2013-honda-accord-project-vehicle-program

Reaching out to the enthusiast community, Honda invited two independent vehicle tuners to build and display their Accord concepts at the SEMA Show. Tuners were asked to push the limits of performance and style with their builds, and the vehicles on display demonstrate the personalized potential of the Accord Coupe and Sedan.

Honda invited the tuners to tell the stories of their cars, and those details are provided below.


]


American Honda Highlights Performance and Personalization at 2012 SEMA Show

2013 Honda Accord HFP makes world debut; Acura brand returns to SEMA Show with 2013 ILX; HPD displays championship race cars

http://hondanews.com/channels/corporate-headlines/releases/american-honda-highlights-performance-and-personalization-at-2012-sema-show

DCR
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Re: View from SEMA in Vegas.    (Score: 1, Normal) 10-30-2012 23:48
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The red lipstick looks bad on the Accord.

Also, I am sort of pissed/impressed with this:



Reason being, when I saw that chrome strip in person, the first thing I thought of was ordering this and covering it:

http://multimedia.3m.com/mws/mediawebserver?mwsId=PPPPPr6wH0cpiuqRl7xsi7qbbs6nb06wEsQPbsQPbPPPPPP--

Now, if I were to do that, I'd be copying this.
owequitit
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Re: View from SEMA in Vegas.    (Score: 1, Normal) 10-30-2012 23:59
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P54 wrote:
Thought about posting this before, however since some think Honda news are shill news I let it be. Since this tread started and nobody brought it up maybe for you who want more info you can look here:

Acura Unveils Supercharged 2013 ILX "Street Build"

http://hondanews.com/channels/corporate-headlines/releases/acura-unveils-supercharged-2013-ilx-street-build

A supercharged 2013 Acura ILX "Street Build" project car made its debut today in the Acura booth at the 2012 SEMA Show. Built by Evasive Motorsports, the ILX luxury sedan features an Acura Genuine Accessories aero kit and a collection of aftermarket modifications designed to provide a fun, daily drivable car that is tastefully done. The supercharged ILX "Street Build" project marks Acura’s return to the SEMA Show after a six-year hiatus, building on the strength of the all-new 2013 ILX luxury compact sedan





Acura ILX Endurance Racer to Debut at 25 Hours of Thunderhill

http://hondanews.com/channels/corporate-headlines/releases/acura-ilx-endurance-racer-to-debut-at-25-hours-of-thunderhill

Developed and prepared by Team Honda Research- West, a competition version of the new 2013 Acura ILX will be unveiled this week at the 2012 Specialty Equipment Market Association (SEMA) Show in Las Vegas, prior to making its competition debut at next month's 25 Hours of Thunderhill endurance race.






2013 Honda Accord Project Vehicle Program

http://hondanews.com/channels/corporate-headlines/releases/2013-honda-accord-project-vehicle-program

Reaching out to the enthusiast community, Honda invited two independent vehicle tuners to build and display their Accord concepts at the SEMA Show. Tuners were asked to push the limits of performance and style with their builds, and the vehicles on display demonstrate the personalized potential of the Accord Coupe and Sedan.

Honda invited the tuners to tell the stories of their cars, and those details are provided below.


]


American Honda Highlights Performance and Personalization at 2012 SEMA Show

2013 Honda Accord HFP makes world debut; Acura brand returns to SEMA Show with 2013 ILX; HPD displays championship race cars

http://hondanews.com/channels/corporate-headlines/releases/american-honda-highlights-performance-and-personalization-at-2012-sema-show




Ricer cars...
owequitit
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Re: View from SEMA in Vegas.    (Score: 1, Normal) 10-31-2012 00:09
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RolledaNsx wrote:
The 2013 Honda Accord HFP..... extra $4500 for wheels,skirts,floor matts but no engine upgrades

Acura ILX Race Car... will race at the 25 hours of Thunderhill

HPD CR-Z with supercharger.... about the same power of the Mugen CR-Z but it looks like the US might get it.It looks like in the future HPD will become America Honda performance brand like Mugen is in Japan and Europe.



The thing that is so irritating about these cars is that for the money, you could do better.

Think about the supercharged ILX. You are going to spend the money for the ILX 6MT, and then have to spend another $5-7K to get the level of performance that this gets. And it will still be FWD, so it will be less enjoyable than something like a 328i or even a slightly used car like a CPO S4.

Honda won't give a nominally more expensive factory version with 20 more HP, but they will gladly let you pay $42K for a car that produces about equal WHP to Mazdaspeed 3.

Don't get me wrong, I have done a lot of aftermarket stuff to cars, but it is always easier to start with a better base.
S600=Dream
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Re: View from SEMA in Vegas.    (Score: 1, Normal) 10-31-2012 00:28
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Owe, I dunno if I'd call the Thunderhill HFP car a ricer car.



The others, yeah.
owequitit
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Re: View from SEMA in Vegas.    (Score: 1, Normal) 10-31-2012 01:33
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S600=Dream wrote:
Owe, I dunno if I'd call the Thunderhill HFP car a ricer car.



The others, yeah.



I was being facetious because the person posting the links is notorious for telling "enthusiasts" that they don't need more power, quality or performance.

Still, it is distressing that for $38-40K you can have an ILX that pales in comparison to some options.
TonyEX
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Re: View from SEMA in Vegas.    (Score: 1, Normal) 10-31-2012 15:04
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DCR wrote:
I didn't know anything about the tank, and figured the only sharks they had were the little ones you pet.

I was wrong.



As you walk into the Mandalay's aquarium, you can look over the side and see the top of the shark tank, huh? It's pretty cool.

Little sharks you 'pet'.... LOL, yeah, I saw people do that at the Long Beach Aquarium. Nuts! Some of them could chew your finger tip.
P54
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Re: View from SEMA in Vegas.    (Score: 1, Normal) 10-31-2012 16:17
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owequitit wrote:
S600=Dream wrote:
Owe, I dunno if I'd call the Thunderhill HFP car a ricer car.



The others, yeah.



I was being facetious because the person posting the links is notorious for telling "enthusiasts" that they don't need more power, quality or performance.

Still, it is distressing that for $38-40K you can have an ILX that pales in comparison to some options.



Did I "BUG" you again?






bigblue
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Re: View from SEMA in Vegas.    (Score: 1, Normal) 10-31-2012 16:30
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Hey ! Stop it, both of you. You've both been very naughty ! If you really insist, can't you take it into the "Ridgeline - Modifications" part of the forum, no-one's been in there since 2009 ...
BachelorFrog
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Re: View from SEMA in Vegas.    (Score: 1, Normal) 10-31-2012 16:41
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Found their inspiration...



The Legend
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Re: View from SEMA in Vegas.    (Score: 1, Normal) 10-31-2012 18:19
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P54 wrote:
Thought about posting this before, however since some think Honda news are shill news I let it be. Since this tread started and nobody brought it up maybe for you who want more info you can look here:

Acura Unveils Supercharged 2013 ILX "Street Build"

http://hondanews.com/channels/corporate-headlines/releases/acura-unveils-supercharged-2013-ilx-street-build

A supercharged 2013 Acura ILX "Street Build" project car made its debut today in the Acura booth at the 2012 SEMA Show. Built by Evasive Motorsports, the ILX luxury sedan features an Acura Genuine Accessories aero kit and a collection of aftermarket modifications designed to provide a fun, daily drivable car that is tastefully done. The supercharged ILX "Street Build" project marks Acura’s return to the SEMA Show after a six-year hiatus, building on the strength of the all-new 2013 ILX luxury compact sedan









The kind of car your dad would be driving if he wanted to spend $45k on a Civic.
NealX
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Re: View from SEMA in Vegas.    (Score: 1, Normal) 10-31-2012 18:19
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^Yeah. That's pretty weak.
superchg2
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Re: View from SEMA in Vegas.    (Score: 1, Normal) 10-31-2012 18:58
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bigblue wrote:
Hey ! Stop it, both of you. You've both been very naughty ! If you really insist, can't you take it into the "Ridgeline - Modifications" part of the forum, no-one's been in there since 2009 ...

Surely you haven't forgotten about Honda's Revolutionary Ridgeline Sport Edition!
DrWhiner
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Re: View from SEMA in Vegas.    (Score: 1, Normal) 10-31-2012 19:36
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Who said that the K24 is max out at 220-230 hp?
330R
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Re: View from SEMA in Vegas.    (Score: 1, Normal) 10-31-2012 20:21
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notyper wrote:
Straight from the guys at Honda, the K24Z cylinder head with its integrated exhaust manifold is a 230 hp restrictor plate. You can find about 30 hp max with that head before it just becomes too much of a restriction to obtain any more normally aspirated power. And, it overheats under racing conditions. That's why all the Grand Am, World Challenge and other race cars that come with the K24Z are allowed to replace the head with an older K24 TSX head.

By contrast, the older K20/K24 head will support over 300 hp naturally aspirated. It's one of the best cylinder heads ever put into production (behind perhaps only the F20C head). It's an example of one of the areas (cylinder head tech) where Honda was clearly the best in the world.

SC


330R
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Re: View from SEMA in Vegas.    (Score: 1, Normal) 10-31-2012 20:24
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P54 wrote:

Did I "BUG" you again?



picture thief *scowl*
330R
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Re: View from SEMA in Vegas.    (Score: 1, Normal) 10-31-2012 20:28
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BachelorFrog wrote:
Found their inspiration...


Blatant!
 
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