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RolledaNsx
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He let it slip when talking about the Fit factory in Mexico that it will be making the Fit,City,Fit Suv.....
America is getting a new Fit in 2014 but also getting a below Civic 4 door sedan(City) and a below a CR-V Suv(????)
Also the NSX info release from Sao Paulo
but the reporter got the message lost in translation!
It was said:After the Tokyo Auto Show the Production
NSX will be shown at Detroit.
OK..... there is no Tokyo show there year,it is every other year! So after next years Tokyo show the Production NSX
will be shown at Detroit(Jan 2014).
England will get the Mugen CR-Z RS.
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hondadude
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RolledaNsx wrote:
He let it slip when talking about the Fit factory in Mexico that it will be making the Fit,City,Fit Suv.....
America is getting a new Fit in 2014 but also getting a below Civic 4 door sedan(City) and a below a CR-V Suv(????)
Also the NSX info release from Sao Paulo
but the reporter got the message lost in translation!
It was said:After the Tokyo Auto Show the Production
NSX will be shown at Detroit.
OK..... there is no Tokyo show there year,it is every other year! So after next years Tokyo show the Production NSX
will be shown at Detroit(Jan 2014).
England will get the Mugen CR-Z RS.
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I've always very much liked the look of the current Honda City. It's a hot seller in most if not all markets it's sold in. I know FiSH-Chan has one and really likes it a lot. I think the City looks way nicer than the current 9th-gen 2012 Civic. Styling is much better on the interior and exterior of the City.
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P54
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Old news:
Summary of CEO Speech on September 21, 2012
http://world.honda.com/news/2012/c120921CEO-Speech/index.html
[ Automobile business ]
In the area of automobile business, in order for Honda to quickly address the needs of customers around the world, Honda will implement global operation reform, which will enable Honda to realize the best vehicle specifications with competitive costs. Three key initiatives which will be taken as a part of this global operation reform are: 1) concurrent development by all six regions,2) adoption of locally optimized design drawings and 3) improvement of production efficiency. (my comment: see Fit Twist)
This global operation reform has been implemented for the development of the all-new Fit (Jazz) series which will be introduced starting in 2013. Within two years after the initial market introduction of the all-new Fit in 2013, Honda will globally roll-out Fit (Jazz), City and a new small SUV model, each with different individual characteristics.
As in the case of advanced nations, Honda will respond quickly to various market needs in rapidly-growing emerging markets while adapting each model to the industrial infrastructures of each country and region. Toward this end, Honda will pursue “concurrent development by all six regions”, where each region participates in product development concurrently and at the same level from the early stage of the development. Introducing the same model in all regions within a short period of time enables Honda to secure a certain level of production volume on a global basis from an early stage of the product introduction, and the cost of parts sourcing can be significantly reduced by producing a large volume of parts all at once in the most competitive region.
Meanwhile, in order to create products that directly respond to the voice of local customers while utilizing the local sourcing and production infrastructure to the maximum extent, Honda will adopt locally optimized design drawings. Honda is fully committed to maximize the joy of customers in each region.
Honda will further improve production efficiency by dedicating new plants to the production of small-sized vehicles, such as Yorii Plant （SAITAMA prefecture）, which will become operational in July 2013, and a new plant in Mexico, which will become operational in spring 2014.
Honda will fulfill the unique customer needs of each region while expanding economies of scale in global sourcing and production
In Japan, Honda will strive to sustain its growth through advancement of the production system and capability and also through enhancement of the small vehicle lineup including mini-vehicles.
In the area of production, starting in April of this year, development, procurement and quality control teams came together at Suzuka Factory to establish a speedy and highly efficient development and production system. While producing mostly mini-vehicles, Suzuka Factory is making progress in establishing a self-sufficient production system.
The Yorii and Sayama Plants of Saitama Factory, will each have unique features and strengthen their own area of specialty.
Yorii Plant, which will lead the global production operations of Honda, will be the world’s top-class energy-saving factory which employs a number of innovative technologies. Through the introduction of new production technologies, Yorii Plant will establish a highly-efficient production structure, which will be dedicated to the centralized production of small-sized vehicles such as the all-new Fit Series.
At Sayama Plant, a portion of two existing production lines will be consolidated to further advance the plant’s multi-model production capability, so that the plant will establish a highly-efficient production system which is capable of producing more than 10 different models on the same line.
In the area of sales, the N BOX, whose overwhelmingly smart packaging has been well received by customers, achieved the remarkable accomplishment of being the industry’s top-selling car in the mini-vehicle category for five consecutive months in Japan.
Honda will further strengthen the product lineup through the introduction of six new mini-vehicle models in Japan by the end of 2015, starting with the “N-ONE” model in Novermber 2012, the third model in the N series. In the small car category, the all-new Fit Series, which was mentioned earlier, will be introduced to the market. With overwhelming product strength, Honda will dramatically increase its presence in mature markets.
In North America, in addition to the already popular Civic, CR-V and Odyssey, all-new Accord went on sale this month. Honda believes that the all-new Accord with a completely new engine and transmission which dramatically improved driving performance, occupant comfort and quality feeling will be well accepted by a broad range of customers. In addition to strengthening sales of these core models, Honda will begin producing an all-new Fit and a derivative model at the new plant in Mexico that will become operational in spring 2014. Honda will further solidify its North American business through enhancement of the product lineup and competiveness.
In China, while strengthening local development capability, Honda will introduce products that put more focus on Chinese customers. For the Honda brand, the introduction of more than 10 new and full-model-change models is scheduled during the 3-year period from 2013 to 2015. In addition, Honda will continue introducing locally-developed original models to strengthen the product lineup in China. Moreover, amid introduction of the strictest fuel economy regulations in the world, Honda will further strengthen its competitiveness by proactively introducing environmental technologies such as hybrid technologies, where Honda has a competitive-edge.
In Asia, in order to compete in and win in highly-competitive low-price markets and fulfill the diverse needs of customers, in addition to the all-new Fit Series, Honda will add sedan-type and utility-type models utilizing the platform of the BRIO, Honda’s strategic model for Asia. Honda will strive to increase the sales and further growth in Asia by strengthening its mutually complementary structure in the region especially among Thailand, Indonesia, India and Malaysia.
In India, an all-new diesel engine will be adopted sequentially to new models starting in FY2014 (fiscal year ending March 31, 2014). In addition to the high fuel efficiency, the cost competitiveness of the all-new diesel engine will be enhanced through local sourcing and local production to make new diesel models more affordable for customers.
With these initiatives, Honda will increase its automobile sales in mature markets namely Japan, the U.S. and Europe from approximately 2.06 million units in FY2012 (fiscal year ended March 31, 2012) to more than 3 million units in FY2017 (fiscal year ending March 31, 2017). With proactive business expansion in emerging markets, in FY2017 (fiscal year ending March 31, 2017), Honda will strive to achieve automobile sales of more than 3 million units in emerging markets, doubling the sales of FY2012 (fiscal year ended March 31, 2012). By solidifying sales in advanced counties and growing dramatically in emerging nations, Honda will strive to achieve worldwide automobile sale of more than 6 million units in FY2017(fiscal year ending March 31, 2017).
Honda will further advance its “Earth Dreams Technology,” a next generation series of powertrain technologies which greatly enhance both driving performance and fuel efficiency at a high level through the improvement of internal combustion components including the engine, along with the transmission, and also through advancement of electromotive technologies applied to motors and other components.
For gasoline-powered vehicles, which remain the most widely used in the world, Honda will continue developing internal combustion engines which will increase fuel economy to the ultimate level. Honda will adopt the newly-developed engine series first to the all-new 2013 Accord, and will continue to adopt it sequentially to other models.
As for hybrid vehicles, Honda will adopt three different systems with unique individual characteristics depending on the model in order to fulfill the needs of more customers.
As for the lightweight and compact one-motor hybrid system, EV driving range will be expanded through the improvement of motor output and battery performance as well as the combination with a newly-developed transmission. Moreover, Honda will strive to achieve No. 1 fuel economy among all hybrid vehicles by improving the efficiency of regenerative energy recovery.
In the area of mid-size vehicles, following the market introduction of the all-new Accord-based plug-in hybrid model in the U.S. in early 2013, a hybrid model equipped with a two-motor hybrid system will be added to the lineup. After the U.S. introduction, these models will be introduced in Japan and other regions. The plug-in hybrid model which will go on sale in Japan will be equipped with a compact inverter capable of external power supply, which was developed by applying Honda’s generator technologies.
Concerning the pursuit of driving performance, a highly-efficient and high-output three-motor hybrid system, the Sport Hybrid SH-AWD® (Super Handling All Wheel Drive), which realizes both a high level of sporty handling and fuel economy, will be applied to the NSX, Acura RLX Sport Hybrid model and the successor model of Legend which will be introduced in Japan in 2014. Honda will measure up to the expectations of customers eagerly waiting these models by highlighting the presence of these hybrid vehicles with unrivaled driving performance and fuel economy.
As for battery EVs, this summer in Japan and the U.S., Honda began lease sales of Fit EV, which realizes the world’s best electric energy consumption performance. In line with changes in the energy situation, Honda will continue its efforts to develop EV models with which Honda will strive to realize further market penetration of EVs.
As for micromini-vehicles, which Honda considers to be one of the directions battery EVs can take, Honda will further advance the concept of a “micro commuter,” which was introduced at the Tokyo Motor Show last year. While incorporating ideas and technologies unique to Honda, the only automaker which has both motorcycle and automobile technologies, Honda is making progress in the development of new personal mobility products. Honda is planning to begin demonstration testing of such products in Japan in 2013.
As for fuel cell electric vehicles, which Honda considers to be the ultimate environmentally-responsible vehicle, and therefore has been leading the industry in R&D and sales, Honda will launch an all-new fuel cell electric model sequentially in Japan, the U.S. and Europe starting in 2015. This new fuel cell vehicle will showcase further technological advancement and significant cost reduction that Honda has accomplished.
Honda will proactively introduce dream-inspiring and edgy products as well as exciting and fun products.
In addition to the NSX, the next-generation super sports model, Honda will launch a new open-top sports car with strong vehicles dynamics which will go on sale in Japan 2014, as one of the six new mini-vehicle models.
In Europe, in addition to the introduction of the NSX, Honda will develop an all-new Civic Type-R to fulfill customer expectations. With the application of technologies which will be cultivated through participation in WTCC (FIA World Touring Car Championship) starting this year, the all-new Civic Type-R is being developed with the goal of becoming the fastest front-wheel-drive vehicle on the Nurburgring race course. Honda aims to introduce this model to the market in 2015.
In addition to a sports hybrid type of Acura’s luxury flagship sedan, the all-new Acura RLX lineup will include a model equipped with Precision All Wheel Steer, the world’s first technology which realizes excellent handling performance. The world premiere of the all-new RLX, which features uniquely Acura exterior and interior designs as well as the most advanced safety and environmental technologies, will be exhibited at the Los Angeles Auto Show in November of this year. All Acura models are scheduled to be renewed within the next three years. Acura will continue to strengthen its brand in North America and China, and expand into other areas of the world.
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RolledaNsx
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P54
Not old news
In that release he never said the USA will get a 4 door sedan smaller than the Civic.....
That summary only said that a Fit base derivative model(small suv) will be made....not two derivate models off the Fit platform for the US market...... thats current news of as yesterday.
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DavidJ
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The fact you guy in the US will get the City may be the reason why the Civic is getting upgraded and probably be going more upmarket.
I hope we, in Chile, start getting Mexican Fit/Citys with north-american specs rather than the mercosur-spec (Brasil/Argentina) pieces of crap we get now.
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Mr. Taggart
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So Ito is preparing a bunch of vehicles that would be great sellers at $5.00 gas prices and up...What does he have up his sleeve if he misreads gas prices in the US post-election like he misread the demand for contented cars post financial crisis? What is he going to do if gas drops below $2.00?
Just asking...
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P54
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RolledaNsx wrote:
P54
Not old news
In that release he never said the USA will get a 4 door sedan smaller than the Civic.....
That summary only said that a Fit base derivative model(small suv) will be made....not two derivate models off the Fit platform for the US market...... thats current news of as yesterday.
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Sorry if I misread, however I thought "globally" included USA.
"This global operation reform has been implemented for the development of the all-new Fit (Jazz) series which will be introduced starting in 2013. Within two years after the initial market introduction of the all-new Fit in 2013, Honda will globally roll-out Fit (Jazz), City and a new small SUV model, each with different individual characteristics."
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P54
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Mr. Taggart wrote:
So Ito is preparing a bunch of vehicles that would be great sellers at $5.00 gas prices and up...What does he have up his sleeve if he misreads gas prices in the US post-election like he misread the demand for contented cars post financial crisis? What is he going to do if gas drops below $2.00?
Just asking...
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When Government pass into law 54 mpg fleet average there will be a drastic cut in tax income. That will be compensated by increasing fuel prices and consumers would not protest as now they have more FE vehicles and their cost of driving will be what they were used to when the gas was lower and FE worse.
The global agenda is higher fuel cost and USA will implement it as cars get more fuel efficient. Anything else would be a miracle.
If you think Honda is alone in preparing new smaller more fuel efficient cars think again. Look at the new small Chevy's, it is a must for the global demand for FE vehicles and where gas is 10 dollar a gallon.
Whatever you call "misread the demand for contented cars" (in regard to Civic I assume you mean), well the Civic is the segment sales leader, can't be that bad. Maybe the actual buyers perceive it differently than the critics?
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Stien Azani
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P54 wrote:
RolledaNsx wrote:
P54
Not old news
In that release he never said the USA will get a 4 door sedan smaller than the Civic.....
That summary only said that a Fit base derivative model(small suv) will be made....not two derivate models off the Fit platform for the US market...... thats current news of as yesterday.
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Sorry if I misread, however I thought "globally" included USA.
"This global operation reform has been implemented for the development of the all-new Fit (Jazz) series which will be introduced starting in 2013. Within two years after the initial market introduction of the all-new Fit in 2013, Honda will globally roll-out Fit (Jazz), City and a new small SUV model, each with different individual characteristics."
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from the sentence "Honda will globally roll-out Fit (Jazz), City and a new small SUV model"; it can be as:
fit will be in US, Euro, Asia
City will be in Asia, South American
small SUV will be in US, Euro....
it's consider as "globally roll-out" from group of "Fit,city and small SUV"
my bet, where is the competitor are then this 3 model will be in the market
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BachelorFrog
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So Mexican plant will be making Fit, City and Fit Suv.....why not make Fit wagon too. How hard can it be?
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Fan Koni
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In a few years 70% of "cars" will be mid, compact, sub compact and mini/basic types.
USA will still have the "largest" cars, in average length. But today that average is already between Civic and Accord.
At the same time content means electronics for safety and comfort; "smart phone & Car" is the new world of content.
No reason why a city can not have everything that an accord has.
So its not hard to see that the old idea of car size and content will not have much future.
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Makes sense, the Civic LX goes for nearly $20k in the US, and the CR-V LX goes a decent amount above $20k, depending on 2WD or 4WD. Honda needs some smaller cars that offer more features for the same price as the larger base models (not saying that the Civic and CR-V LX don't already have a lot of sutff, just want more lol).
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CVCC1974
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BachelorFrog wrote:
So Mexican plant will be making Fit, City and Fit Suv.....why not make Fit wagon too. How hard can it be?
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My speculation: I think the current Fit wagon (JDM Fit Shuttle) will stay for a while under its 2nd-gen/GE chassis when the 3rd gen Fit comes out, and most likely that will stay in Japan until a few years after the introduction of the new Fit. So until they phase-out the current Fit Shuttle in Japan, the 3rd gen Fit Shuttle/wagon won't appear. I believe the Mexican plant will manufacture just the cars with all-new Fit platform, that is different than the current GE platform.
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CarPhreakD
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Mr. Taggart wrote:
So Ito is preparing a bunch of vehicles that would be great sellers at $5.00 gas prices and up...What does he have up his sleeve if he misreads gas prices in the US post-election like he misread the demand for contented cars post financial crisis? What is he going to do if gas drops below $2.00?
Just asking...
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He also had his fingerprints all over the Accord.
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FiSH-Chan
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hondadude wrote:
I've always very much liked the look of the current Honda City. It's a hot seller in most if not all markets it's sold in. I know FiSH-Chan has one and really likes it a lot. I think the City looks way nicer than the current 9th-gen 2012 Civic. Styling is much better on the interior and exterior of the City.
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For the price it is sold in and the stuff offered, at least in my country and considering what I can afford yeah I am pretty satisfied. If I want to I can find problems with it such as lack of magic seat and fabric that doesn't wear well just 2 years (I dunno if they fixed this with the MMC), and some misc. things etc. There is some cheap plastic at the center console too, but the MMC one is better. :)
Also, everyone and their grandma has one at every corner, so that is a negative. There are also some rental car companies with them too, even more nagetive. >:( Around within about 500meter around my house in my neighborhood, I now count about 10 Citys including mine, some guy just got a new silver one a few days ago.
In looks if the roof is a bit lower by 1-2inch would look even better... most people in Asia won't have problem with headroom ever in this car anyway..
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xBeastx
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FiSH-Chan wrote:
hondadude wrote:
I've always very much liked the look of the current Honda City. It's a hot seller in most if not all markets it's sold in. I know FiSH-Chan has one and really likes it a lot. I think the City looks way nicer than the current 9th-gen 2012 Civic. Styling is much better on the interior and exterior of the City.
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For the price it is sold in and the stuff offered, at least in my country and considering what I can afford yeah I am pretty satisfied. If I want to I can find problems with it such as lack of magic seat and fabric that doesn't wear well just 2 years (I dunno if they fixed this with the MMC), and some misc. things etc. There is some cheap plastic at the center console too, but the MMC one is better. :)
Also, everyone and their grandma has one at every corner, so that is a negative. There are also some rental car companies with them too, even more nagetive. >:( Around within about 500meter around my house in my neighborhood, I now count about 10 Citys including mine, some guy just got a new silver one a few days ago.
In looks if the roof is a bit lower by 1-2inch would look even better... most people in Asia won't have problem with headroom ever in this car anyway..
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I guess it's also a good thing to see the City pretty much everywhere you go.
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