Whereas the original TSX begged you to play, though, the ILX asks politely, then keeps quiet when you show no interest. Actually, it never quite keeps all that quiet. In sixth gear, the engine is buzzing like it’s in fourth. In fourth, it makes you want to hurry up and shift to sixth. The engine isn’t even halfway to its 7100-rpm redline at 80 mph, but the aural feedback suggests otherwise. It also suggests, inaccurately, that this engine has a turbo feeding it. Weirdness.
C&D doesnt add much we don't already know. Except I don't think it looks anywhere near as nice as a TSX or RDX. One commenter has said he knows that the ILX interior is a preview of that in the soon to be revised civic. Which would be the most shocking thing Honda has ever done - so I don't believe it. Not that I am that keen on the ILX dash - especially the squashed bulky area ahead of the front passenger....but a conventional dash in a civic? I'd welcome it, but not sure the market would.
Without a doubt, this is the most difficult review I've had to write so far. I've come down fairly hard on Acura in the past for being overpriced, not particularly attractive and simply not competitive with its peers within its market space. This car is the successor to a couple of efforts in Canada, first the EL, then the CSX, but represents its first foray into the U.S. market. They needed to nail it.
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"That being said, it's not a total loss for Acura. If they promptly give it the updates it needs, namely upgrading the 2.0 with a dose of vitamin hp or dropping it in favour of the 2.4 and substituting the 6 speed auto for the 5 speed, they will have a winner on their hands. For now, I have to stay, put it back in the oven, it's not done yet."
The ILX Hybrid carries a little more weight, about 100 pounds, more than the Civic Hybrid, which does not entirely explain the fuel economy difference. The Civic Hybrid gets 44 mpg in city and on highway, where the ILX Hybrid only gets 39 mpg city and 38 mpg highway. In my driving, which was biased toward traffic-heavy freeways, the trip computer ended up at about 36 mpg. Although, below the EPA estimates, the ILX Hybrid still showed itself to be frugal with the gasoline.
superchg2 wrote: Car Fanatics Forum
"That being said, it's not a total loss for Acura. If they promptly give it the updates it needs, namely upgrading the 2.0 with a dose of vitamin hp or dropping it in favour of the 2.4 and substituting the 6 speed auto for the 5 speed, they will have a winner on their hands. For now, I have to stay, put it back in the oven, it's not done yet."
Honda/Acura, are you listening?
That's pretty much what Honda/Acura will do to the ILX for next year...ED engine + new CVT that has 7-speed mode or something like that.
How much improvement will we see? We will find out in time.
Finally, a semi-aggressive exhaust note is joined by a tiresome buzziness from the underhood during top-gear 80-mph cruises, at which point the engine is spinning at 3500 rpm or so. The sound isn’t as refined as it ought to be in this segment; luxury—entry-level, sporty, or otherwise—doesn’t sound like the Civic Si. Perhaps this has caused some short-shifting among our usually redline-happy drivers, as the ILX has returned 27 mpg combined so far, just four below the 31-mpg EPA highway rating.
A77 wrote: C&D doesnt add much we don't already know. Except I don't think it looks anywhere near as nice as a TSX or RDX. One commenter has said he knows that the ILX interior is a preview of that in the soon to be revised civic. Which would be the most shocking thing Honda has ever done - so I don't believe it. Not that I am that keen on the ILX dash - especially the squashed bulky area ahead of the front passenger....but a conventional dash in a civic? I'd welcome it, but not sure the market would.
The 8th generation Civic was so good for its market and its time that people bought it in droves no matter what their opinions were on the split dash.
If the Civic moves back to a normal dash, I don't think anyone who likes the rest of the car would buy it because it doesn't have the split dash.
A77 wrote: C&D doesnt add much we don't already know. Except I don't think it looks anywhere near as nice as a TSX or RDX. One commenter has said he knows that the ILX interior is a preview of that in the soon to be revised civic. Which would be the most shocking thing Honda has ever done - so I don't believe it. Not that I am that keen on the ILX dash - especially the squashed bulky area ahead of the front passenger....but a conventional dash in a civic? I'd welcome it, but not sure the market would.
The 8th generation Civic was so good for its market and its time that people bought it in droves no matter what their opinions were on the split dash.
If the Civic moves back to a normal dash, I don't think anyone who likes the rest of the car would buy it because it doesn't have the split dash.
I meant "I don't think anyone who likes the rest of the car would not buy it just because it doesn't have the split dash"
Consumer Reports gave its official ranking to the ILX. It scored a 77 (Very good rating); this is below the TSX rating of 84. They do recommend it, and they based their test on the 2.0 premium. The Buick Verono scored the lowest in the segment at 73. Here is a summary of the findings:
Highs: Powertrain, fuel economy, fit and finish, front-seat comfort.
Lows: Ride, steering feel, rear seat.
With the ILX, Acura is returning to its original entry-level luxury segment once occupied by the Integra. The small ILX slots below the TSX and is derived from a platform shared with the Honda Civic. But suspension tuning, interior materials, and styling are different. It is offered with three four-cylinder engines: a 2.0-liter base, 1.5-liter hybrid, and 2.4-liter performance-oriented powertrain. The base engine and five-speed automatic work very well. Ride and handling is a bit better than the Civic and the ILX is quieter. However, for $30,000 typically equipped, the ILX should be a lot better.
The 2012 Acura ILX will appeal to buyers who want thrifty fuel economy and are looking to step up to a luxury brand. Acura touts the car's value, but we feel it is priced too close to, and even on top of, the more substantial TSX. The ILX does have a premium cockpit, but engine performance doesn't match the price, leaving rivals such as the Audi A3, Volkswagen Jetta GLI, Buick Verano and even Acura's own TSX as better alternatives.
Despite an attractive design and cushy interior, Acura's * * 2013 ILX compact sedan lacks the features and performance to compete with the best small premium sedans.
The ILX is the first misstep in Acura's reboot, which will include several new models over the next few years. It's smaller and less expensive than the TSX that has been Acura's entry model.
98EX4cyl wrote: Really, that's annoying. First 6 minutes of the stupid clown/mime before the review begins?? And then the clown returns to annoy you further.
For those looking for the summary: skip the annoying review and buy a TSX. These guys at Rosenthal have to much time to their hands.
You deserve a medal for watching that whole clip. I could only take 22 seconds of that chubby mime before bailing.
I can always depend on my barber for two things: miracle work on my thick, unruly hair, and a laundry list of questions about what car I'm currently driving or testing. Once in a while, he'll ask to see the car in person, and the 2013 Acura ILX hybrid was one of those occasions. He stands right in the crosshairs of the ILX's demographic: He's a single, professional male in his late 20s with a budding affinity for luxury cars. (His current car is a Lexus IS 350.)
"OK, this looks nice," he said of the exterior. "Wow, luxury," he observed from the passenger seat. And upon learning of the ILX's humble roots: "Really? A Civic? I couldn't tell." His reaction is exactly what Acura wants to hear from a Gen-Y buyer, though his evaluation doesn't go beyond the sheetmetal, where most of the Civic's underpinnings are hiding.,/blockquote>
Owning a Lexus IS 350 means you have a budding affinity for luxury cars? I'd say the bud has bloomed, and highly doubt someone would trade down to an ILX from there.
Twenty years on, DeMatio again drove an Acura compact luxury car home from the office. Only rather than a 130-hp two-door, this time he drove a 201-hp four-door. "I really like the ILX," he says. "Gearchanges are lovely, and the engine happily revs to 7000 rpm or lopes along at 6000 rpm in fourth gear at 85 mph." Yeah, he probably hit 85 mph on the same deserted stretch of Huron River Drive he's been piloting for decades, but everyone in the office is guilty of flatfooting in the ILX.
I love the ergonomically friendly interior. (Really, has Acura ever done a bad interior? I can't think of one.) Still, Acura is never quite sure of itself, so at the top of the car's center stack of instruments, they've put in big lettering, "PREMIUM AUDIO SYSTEM." Really, Acura, show some restraint. And get your designers to work on the mid-cycle exterior freshening of the ILX, to make it look sportier and more distinctive.
Perhaps the lack of an available navigation system will deter some potential buyers from the manual transmission model, but the ILX offers every other option I would personally want in a small luxury car. In fact, the size of the ILX is 1 of its best attributes. The car is easy to park, nimble on a tight road, and there's plenty of room inside for 4 adults. Fuel economy isn't stellar at 31 mpg highway, but my mixed driving easily matched or exceeded the EPA combined rating of 25 mpg despite my frequent excursions past 7000 rpm. Unless you're dead-set on rear-wheel drive, this is easily a frontrunner in the $30k sporty luxury sedan class.
To be clear, it's not as if the ILX is some kind of breakthrough. It's just a good little luxury car that you want to drive quickly. In other words, it's an Acura. Welcome back.
Finally some praise for the 2.4L model... I mean, I'm a car enthusiast, and there has to be a reason I love driving this car so much! I guess I just don't get the some of the criticisms this car has been getting. It's an attractive (if conservative) design, well crafted and high quality interior, and a very aggressive high revving engine with an amazing shifter! Sure the steering is on the light side, but it's still got decent feedback, and the ride quality is firm but not harsh. I think the price point for the 2.4 is spot on, and in fact, can't understand how they did it for so little. The 2.0 on the other hand reminds me why I'm so glad I know how to drive a manual. Ummmm...yeah, I'd reather have the 2.4 (and I do have one).
mac_powah wrote: Finally some praise for the 2.4L model... I mean, I'm a car enthusiast, and there has to be a reason I love driving this car so much! I guess I just don't get the some of the criticisms this car has been getting. It's an attractive (if conservative) design, well crafted and high quality interior, and a very aggressive high revving engine with an amazing shifter! Sure the steering is on the light side, but it's still got decent feedback, and the ride quality is firm but not harsh. I think the price point for the 2.4 is spot on, and in fact, can't understand how they did it for so little. The 2.0 on the other hand reminds me why I'm so glad I know how to drive a manual. Ummmm...yeah, I'd reather have the 2.4 (and I do have one).
I think the criticisms on the car are mainly because people haven't driven it. It doesn't have one particular thing it really excels at, but rather is a really nice car when taken as an overall package. I test drove it a couple of times and was quite impressed, and was very tempted to buy it. On paper the ILX doesn't seem that great, but it's really a very good car when you're sitting in it and driving it.
I really hate the packages for the car though. If they had a more diverse set of packages, or an a la carte system (which I know Honda doesn't do), then I might be driving an ILX now instead of an Accord.
Even when you settle into a cruise, the thing won't shut up. Our ILX 2.4 is really loud, particularly for a compact sedan with luxury aspirations. We questioned whether our ears were simply too delicate, until the new Buick Verano Turbo showed up at the office. "The Verano Turbo is a better small luxury sedan -- it's quieter, smoother, and rides better," says associate editor David Zenlea. The fact that the ILX growls while the Verano whispers makes the Buick the superior choice for those downsizing from larger luxury car.
The ILX is fun, it's nimble, and, even though engine noise can be overbearing at times, it's refined. Acura did a good job creating a cohesive package for younger buyers to upgrade to without depriving them of all the flavor of a sport sedan. "No other automaker offers a four-cylinder and manual transmission as entertaining as Honda, and I credit the company for offering it in a car that's nicer and more refined than the Civic Si," says Zenlea, "but the truth is it needs to be nicer still." Other than sound deadening, what are some other areas that could use improvement? Find out more in next month's update.
Another thing we can report on the plus side of the ledger is the ILX can do a pretty mean burnout. I was told by a certain Acura PR person who shall remain nameless that it can lay an impressive patch, so naturally I had to find out for myself. Yep, he's right, it sure can. I had that tire spinning furiously on the way out of the AutoClub Speedway lot.
Most of the driving I've been doing lately has been out on L.A.'s mean highways, and while the left leg can get a workout at times in the inevitable stop-and-go, I've found the six-speed to be one of the easiest to modulate setups out there. It's a breeze to push it lightly when the going is slow, and when you want to get aggressive, the clutch pedal/shifter action is a cinch to wind out quickly and effectively.
Surprising, and puzzling, the ILX Hybrid’s fuel economy rating is 39 mpg city/38 highway and 38 combined while the Civic Hybrid bests those numbers with 44/44/44. The ILX does weight around 100 pounds more than the Civic but we’ve not learned what accounts for the discrepancy.
Our travels during a week with the ILX Hybrid racked up 379 miles, 187 miles on Interstates, the balance was mixed in town and some highway miles. Results? Our combined fuel economy was 41 mpg, three mpg more than the EPA’s estimate.
When we topped up with gas, divided the miles driven by the number gallons the results were 29.4 mpg. Certainly not close to the 41 mpg the Hybrid delivered the week before, but it was a decent 4.4 mpg increase over the EPA’s estimated 25 mpg.
Longest thread ever! 7 pages! After going through the reviews, it seems like Acura might just pull off a Civic for the MMC of the ILX. 2.4L engine standard on all models, 6 speed auto with 6 speed manual transmissions available across the board. Keep the prices the same, but either lower the price of the hybrid, improve it, or kill it.
While other ILX models are going after customers looking for either an affordable luxury car or a fuel-efficient hybrid sedan, the 2.4 model finds harmony between sport and luxury. Normally, playing the middle of the field is a good way for a car to make compromises on both ends, but the ILX does a fine job of balancing luxurious comfort with supportive sportiness.
During our week with the ILX 2.4, the fact that it's basically a fancier Civic Si stuck in the back of our heads, but time and again, this Acura impressed us with how much it didn't feel like a sportier version of an entry-level compact. Acura's crew surely deserves the lion's share of the credit for this, as the ILX has been given a beefier front stabilizer bar and a quicker ratio for its power steering than the Si. Even the sound quality inside the cabin is more of what we'd expect from a luxury car, the result of acoustic glass used for the windshield and the audio system's Active Sound Cancellation.
We complained that the car's engine was noisy in last month's update, and we've noticed that a lot of ambient noise worms its way in as well. "The ILX is in desperate need of sound insulation," says Floraday. Managing editor Amy Skogstrom agrees, saying that highway crosswinds caused a racket. She also called out the grainy rear-view camera, which deputy editor Joe DeMatio had previously harped on as well: "At night, what you see looks like a fuzzy old black-and-white movie on a crappy old TV."