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DrWhiner
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Uh oh - bad news? *Official EPA *    (Score: 1, Normal) 10-11-2012 00:53
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Finally EPA updated its site, and strangely no one post the updated EPA info?

Uh oh - NOT bad news? NO post???

http://fueleconomy.gov/feg/PowerSearch.do?action=noform&path=1&year1=2013&year2=2013&make=Honda&model=Accord&srchtyp=ymm
DCR
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Re: Uh oh - bad news? *Official EPA *    (Score: 1, Normal) 10-11-2012 01:05
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You obviously do not know about the search function.
accord1989b
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Re: Uh oh - bad news? *Official EPA *    (Score: 1, Normal) 10-11-2012 02:00
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DCR wrote:
You obviously do not know about the search function.

I must come to his defense, that .gov site has one of the most complicated and confused search functions I have ever seen.
DrWhiner
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Re: Uh oh - bad news? *Official EPA *    (Score: 1, Normal) 10-11-2012 20:22
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The important point is not HOW I search, it's the result. (I used the search to compare cars afterwards AND it's obvious you don't know what I intent to do next.)

Let me know if the result is not proper.
according2kev
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Re: Uh oh - bad news? *Official EPA *    (Score: 1, Normal) 10-11-2012 22:00
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Thanks for posting the info. While they had only the Sport's numbers listed previously, I recall some were saying that the MPG had been downrated.
xBeastx
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Re: Uh oh - bad news? *Official EPA *    (Score: 1, Normal) 10-11-2012 22:31
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Fuelly is where you go to get real MPG numbers.
Jet Sitter
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Re: Uh oh - bad news? *Official EPA *    (Score: 1, Normal) 10-12-2012 11:36
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I don't know how accurate the government numbers are. My BIL bought a 2012 Sonata and I believe the gov numbers are 35MPG. He said that in "real life" driving he has never even hit 30. He currently has 10K on the car, so it should have shown some improvement by now. The numbers for my 2000 Accord were somewhere around 29. I can easily get 35 on the highway at cruise.
Hondarulez
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Re: Uh oh - bad news? *Official EPA *    (Score: 1, Normal) 10-12-2012 16:11
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Jet Sitter wrote:
I don't know how accurate the government numbers are. My BIL bought a 2012 Sonata and I believe the gov numbers are 35MPG. He said that in "real life" driving he has never even hit 30. He currently has 10K on the car, so it should have shown some improvement by now. The numbers for my 2000 Accord were somewhere around 29. I can easily get 35 on the highway at cruise.


That's the thing with many cars - EPA figures and real-world numbers can be quite different. The EPA figures you see are submitted to EPA by the manufacturers. EPA then test 15% of the cars to make sure they do achieve the claimed EPA figures in the EPA cycles.

With that said, most of the cars usually can get the claimed EPA figures in the EPA cycles (one exception I can quickly think off is the 2013 328i, where EPA revised the numbers down). However, manufacturers can easily program and tune their cars so that their cars do well in EPA, but not necessarily so in the real world.
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Re: Uh oh - bad news? *Official EPA *    (Score: 1, Normal) 10-12-2012 17:10
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Jet Sitter wrote:
I don't know how accurate the government numbers are. My BIL bought a 2012 Sonata and I believe the gov numbers are 35MPG. He said that in "real life" driving he has never even hit 30. He currently has 10K on the car, so it should have shown some improvement by now. The numbers for my 2000 Accord were somewhere around 29. I can easily get 35 on the highway at cruise.


Hyundai/Kia are getting rapped across the board for their unobtainable EPA mileage numbers. Not sure how they do it, but many others have similar experiences of not getting close to the EPA figures. Every Honda product I've owned has been the opposite - very easy to exceed the EPA number by a few MPG.
 
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