leeanders
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Having owned seveal Accords in the past I was very interested in this new 2013 model.
Looked over the first EX sedan that came to the local dealer, and was most disappointed in:
++Center Console........much smaller than before!
++Center Console Armrest.......rediculously small and does not slide forward!
++Glove compartmnet........rediculously small!
++Driver's leather seat....not at all as comfortable as the previous model - and is cut smaller!
++No inside car trunk release!
++Driver headrests....way too far forward - cannot stand that! Possible, maybe, to reverse them?
Having stated my disappointments, I will say I like the tech features on the car. Too bad they screwed up what could have been a comfortable car with such cost cutting disasters.
Has anyone else noticed these things?
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CarGuyLee
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I am pretty sure the headrests are a new safety thing, I think all new cars are like that.
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Potenza
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leeanders wrote:
++No inside car trunk release!
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superchg2
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It seems like whatever Honda roles out these days, the critics are ready to pounce. If the Accord receives COTY, there will be definitely be some Crow to be eaten around here.
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Gfn8r
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Potenza wrote:
leeanders wrote:
++No inside car trunk release!
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The release is down next to the driver's seat, where Honda always has it, combined with the fuel-door release. (Acuras are always electric, and up on the driver's door--the emergency/"dead battery" access to the trunk is through a pull-handle behind the rear-seat pass-through.)
Now the lack of a pass-through--THAT'S a possible complaint! (As I've stated ad nauseum around here in the spirit of keeping positive, they've gotta have something to improve upon in the MMC! :-) )
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CarGuyLee
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I think the Accord is a great car, but I really see the Fusion taking COTY, if for nothing else, that it is going to have 3 versions... gas, Hybrid, plug in hybrid, unless there happens to be some major fault with it.....
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Gfn8r
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superchg2 wrote:
It seems like whatever Honda roles out these days, the critics are ready to pounce. If the Accord receives COTY, there will be definitely be some Crow to be eaten around here.
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COTY AND C&D "10-Best" for the full-line would be great to see! (North American Car Of The Year for the trifecta!)
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nissannomore
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If you look down you will see the switch for the fuel door and the trunk.
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gofast182
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I wouldn't be surprised at all to see Accord take MT COTY and maybe even NACOTY. With respect to MT, look at the '06 Civic with the nice sedan, hybrid, and Si. With this Accord we've got a nice sedan with incredible equipment, the hybrids, and a V6 6MT coupe that sounds almost like an exotic and goes pretty well, too. It's a great model lineup.
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markitdown
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I agree regarding the storage of glove box, center console, and I will add side door pockets. While I agree the headrest is somewhat awkward, I strongly disagree about the comfort of the driver's seat and actually I find the armrest very comfortable as well even without sliding. I have now enjoyed 3 test drives of the Accord EX-L, and one was 45 minutes. I found the driver's seat had plenty of adjustments for comfort and driving position. I am only 5' 9" so perhaps a tall person may have other observations. There is no right or wrong opinion, and I am just sharing my experience. I very impressed with the interior quality, knobs, and materials used throughout the vehicle.
As I mentioned, everyone has different experiences and perceptions, and my lone significant complaint is the harshness of the suspension. I think Honda should have tuned the suspension differently for the Sport and EX-L, and they could let the customer choose which model they were looking for. I feel ride quality was sacrificed for better handling.
leeanders wrote:
Having owned seveal Accords in the past I was very interested in this new 2013 model.
Looked over the first EX sedan that came to the local dealer, and was most disappointed in:
++Center Console........much smaller than before!
++Center Console Armrest.......rediculously small and does not slide forward!
++Glove compartmnet........rediculously small!
++Driver's leather seat....not at all as comfortable as the previous model - and is cut smaller!
++No inside car trunk release!
++Driver headrests....way too far forward - cannot stand that! Possible, maybe, to reverse them?
Having stated my disappointments, I will say I like the tech features on the car. Too bad they screwed up what could have been a comfortable car with such cost cutting disasters.
Has anyone else noticed these things?
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benbess
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leeanders wrote:
Having owned seveal Accords in the past I was very interested in this new 2013 model.
Looked over the first EX sedan that came to the local dealer, and was most disappointed in:
++Center Console........much smaller than before!
++Center Console Armrest.......rediculously small and does not slide forward!
++Glove compartmnet........rediculously small!
++Driver's leather seat....not at all as comfortable as the previous model - and is cut smaller!
++No inside car trunk release!
++Driver headrests....way too far forward - cannot stand that! Possible, maybe, to reverse them?
Having stated my disappointments, I will say I like the tech features on the car. Too bad they screwed up what could have been a comfortable car with such cost cutting disasters.
Has anyone else noticed these things?
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It's spelled "ridiculous...."
My guess is that the Accord is still better than than the competition overall, and by a wide margin. But if you don't think so, it's clearly in your best interests to go buy that other car. I think you'll find that other car has drawbacks as well, and possibly ones more serious than anything on the mostly outstanding 2013 Accord.
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6SPDTL
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Regarding the headrests, try pushing it back. On our odyssey if you plop on the seat with enough force you can make the headrest move forward, its the antiwhiplash device. THe device simply puts the headrest on a lever situated inside the seat back, if you push it hard enough the headrest will move forward, to "reset" it you simply push back on the headrest.
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VTECyo!
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6SPDTL wrote:
Regarding the headrests, try pushing it back. On our odyssey if you plop on the seat with enough force you can make the headrest move forward, its the antiwhiplash device. THe device simply puts the headrest on a lever situated inside the seat back, if you push it hard enough the headrest will move forward, to "reset" it you simply push back on the headrest.
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What you are describing is the active head restraint system which the Accord does not have, so that won't work.
As has been said, the trunk release mechanism in the cabin is integrated with the fuel door release mechanism to the left of the driver's seat, just like in so many Accords of previous years.
I sat in one today, and I was really pleased with the interior in many ways, with my only complaint being the small folding seat opening and lack of a pass through. Next step is to drive it!
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Gfn8r
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VTECyo! wrote:
6SPDTL wrote:
Regarding the headrests, try pushing it back. On our odyssey if you plop on the seat with enough force you can make the headrest move forward, its the antiwhiplash device. THe device simply puts the headrest on a lever situated inside the seat back, if you push it hard enough the headrest will move forward, to "reset" it you simply push back on the headrest.
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What you are describing is the active head restraint system which the Accord does not have, so that won't work.
As has been said, the trunk release mechanism in the cabin is integrated with the fuel door release mechanism to the left of the driver's seat, just like in so many Accords of previous years.
I sat in one today, and I was really pleased with the interior in many ways, with my only complaint being the small folding seat opening and lack of a pass through. Next step is to drive it!
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Impressed enough with yesterday's test drive of a Sport CVT that I just fired-off an order for a trunk tray from College Hills for my eventual 2013 Touring!
Mind you, I don't have the new car, and I'm still trying to figure out how to sell my 2006!! 8-)
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JIRZLEE
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I had a Mazda 2 rental car and flipped the headrest around backwards so that it was set back a bit more, seemed to work fine.
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daddywags
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I agree as to the harshness of the suspension. Also I took a test drive yesterday and drove it on a section of grooved highway. The EX-L kept moving side to side acting kind of squirrely. The tires may have been over inflated, but this dealership has always religiously put my tires at 35 psi whenever I get any work done. Immediately after my test drive, I took my 2005 Accord hybrid over the same course and hardly felt the grooves. I also found the weighting of the steering too light for my taste. It seemed to border on numbness. My Accord also has electric power steering and it feels closer to a friend's 2005 M3. These perceptions aren't that big of a deal and I really liked the car otherwise. I will probably end up buying the plug-in hybrid model.
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KurtTappe
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daddywags wrote:
I took a test drive yesterday and drove it on a section of grooved highway. The EX-L kept moving side to side acting kind of squirrely. The tires may have been over inflated, but this dealership has always religiously put my tires at 35 psi whenever I get any work done. Immediately after my test drive, I took my 2005 Accord hybrid over the same course and hardly felt the grooves.
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I plan to do the same; plot out a course from the local dealer & pre-drive it in my '98 Accord. Then after driving it in the '13, re-drive it in my '98 for a solid comparison. I'm concerned about the ride quality too, but more due to the large wheels (and associated thin tires) than the suspension setup. I know everyone seems to want 18" or 19" wheels, and they're great for cornering, but the other 99% of the time when you're touring they are bound to screw up the ride quality.
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vandtee11
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leeanders wrote:
++Driver's leather seat....not at all as comfortable as the previous model - and is cut smaller
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Really? I found the standard cloth seating extremely comfortable. And how did you miss the trunk release? lol
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talon95
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vandtee11 wrote:
leeanders wrote:
++Driver's leather seat....not at all as comfortable as the previous model - and is cut smaller
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Really? I found the standard cloth seating extremely comfortable. And how did you miss the trunk release? lol
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I have the leather seats and I find the driver's seat to be very comfortable... a definite improvement over the leather seat in my gen 8. It's definitely a personal preference... leeanders prefers the gen 8 seats, but those seats were criticized by many people for overly aggressive lumbar support (aka the "basketball in your back" syndrome). I thought they were fine (I like firm lumbar support), but I still like the gen 9 seats better. To each his own...
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talon95
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markitdown wrote:
As I mentioned, everyone has different experiences and perceptions, and my lone significant complaint is the harshness of the suspension. I think Honda should have tuned the suspension differently for the Sport and EX-L, and they could let the customer choose which model they were looking for. I feel ride quality was sacrificed for better handling.
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I went from a gen 8 EX-L V6 to a gen 9 EX-L I4 and initially I had similar comments about ride quality that was a bit too firm. But it hasn't taken long and I'm getting used to it and realizing it's "too firm" only by comparison to the more softly suspended gen 8. I remember going through the same thing with my first Accord (2000 EX-L V6). I had a more softly suspended car prior to that one and initially felt the Accord's ride quality was kind of harsh. It didn't take long to get used to it and I ultimately thought that that Accord was one of the *best* riding cars I ever drove. And if memory serves, it seems to me that the gen 9 rides very much like that gen 6. Bottom line is, I've reversed my initial position about the overly firm ride with the gen 9 and now feel it's just right.
Anyway, it may work the same for you, that over time (a few days was all it took for me), the gen 9 suspension tuning may feel more "right" to you. Or perhaps not. But that was my experience.
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talon95
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daddywags wrote:
I agree as to the harshness of the suspension. Also I took a test drive yesterday and drove it on a section of grooved highway. The EX-L kept moving side to side acting kind of squirrely. The tires may have been over inflated, but this dealership has always religiously put my tires at 35 psi whenever I get any work done. Immediately after my test drive, I took my 2005 Accord hybrid over the same course and hardly felt the grooves. I also found the weighting of the steering too light for my taste. It seemed to border on numbness. My Accord also has electric power steering and it feels closer to a friend's 2005 M3. These perceptions aren't that big of a deal and I really liked the car otherwise. I will probably end up buying the plug-in hybrid model.
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I added comments about the ride in my previous post. As for the "squirreliness', I've put about 300 miles on my 2013 EX-L and haven't encountered anything like that. I've been on a lot of road surfaces, though I don't specifically recall driving on grooved highway. I'd go along with your guess regarding the tire inflation.
Interesting thing about the steering. I *loved* the steering feel on my gen 8 EX-L V6. Then I drove a 2011 Camry SE rental for a week while on vacation. It wasn't a bad experience and I thought the steering felt fine. When I got home, for the first day or so my Accord's steering felt overly light, just because I had gotten used to the Camry's steering, which was a bit firmer. Ultimately I readjusted to the Accord and it felt fine again. Similarly, I'm beginning to adjust to the gen 9's lighter steering feel as compared to the gen 8 and it's starting to feel good to me. Maybe I'm just unusually adaptable. But you may experience the same thing.
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Gfn8r
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gofast182 wrote:
I wouldn't be surprised at all to see Accord take MT COTY and maybe even NACOTY. With respect to MT, look at the '06 Civic with the nice sedan, hybrid, and Si. With this Accord we've got a nice sedan with incredible equipment, the hybrids, and a V6 6MT coupe that sounds almost like an exotic and goes pretty well, too. It's a great model lineup.
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Only thing about the "normal" '06 and '07 Sedans was that goofy-looking two-spoke steering wheel--it just didn't look right! (Can't remember if the '08 DX/VPs, LXs and EXs had that as well--I think it was a running change, not at the MMC.)
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Rgist85
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I just don't see the Accord getting COTY, if it does I certainly will be excited but I just don't see it. I don't think Fusion will either, simply because of MyFordTouch.
Fusion is nice, but expensive. Reviews for the Fusion are starting to trickle out now as we speak.
I drove a 2013 White/Ivory EXL a few days ago, a very nice car, I'll do a full review on my drive soon, I want to test drive a different Accord with either gray or black leather before I go in to details. Right now my biggest disappointment is the interior styling, especially with the ivory interior. Beige/Parchment/Ivory and metal trim pieces just don't mix well IMO. I do like the dark wood trim finish, it looks very upscale and is a good change from the burlwood or light color wood trims used on Accords of the past.
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benbess
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Rgist85 wrote:
I just don't see the Accord getting COTY, if it does I certainly will be excited but I just don't see it. I don't think Fusion will either, simply because of MyFordTouch.
Fusion is nice, but expensive. Reviews for the Fusion are starting to trickle out now as we speak.
I drove a 2013 White/Ivory EXL a few days ago, a very nice car, I'll do a full review on my drive soon, I want to test drive a different Accord with either gray or black leather before I go in to details. Right now my biggest disappointment is the interior styling, especially with the ivory interior. Beige/Parchment/Ivory and metal trim pieces just don't mix well IMO. I do like the dark wood trim finish, it looks very upscale and is a good change from the burlwood or light color wood trims used on Accords of the past.
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Looking forward to your review.
Here's Automobile magazine on the poor visibility in the Fusion:
"....With its high beltline and steeply raked windshield and backlight, the Fusion can’t come close to matching the outward visibility of the new Honda Accord, but few can. Thick A-pillars and two-piece C-pillars compromise the driver’s view somewhat....
Read more: http://www.automobilemag.com/reviews/driven/1209_2013_ford_fusion_first_drive/#ixzz27Edpb8lh
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jheighto
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There is nothing wrong with the car, you are just fat.
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DCR
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jheighto wrote:
There is nothing wrong with the car, you are just fat.
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Madddog
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I think you guys took the bait. According to leeanders profile, this is his only post. He did not respond and try to substantiate his comments. In other words he started this thread with a bunch of BS; I bet he/she hasn't even seen the new Accord.
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Steve
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Madddog wrote:
I think you guys took the bait. According to leeanders profile, this is his only post. He did not respond and try to substantiate his comments. In other words he started this thread with a bunch of BS; I bet he/she hasn't even seen the new Accord.
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Bingo! Any one who does not know where the trunk release in a Honda is located, is a complete fraud and should go away.
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ru4real
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REDRUM.....
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