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rancho1
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Still can't see push start? [View News Item]    (Score: 1, Normal) 08-15-2012 20:31
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It's good to see real photos instead of just the computer generated renderings, but I love how all the photos are at the wrong angle and distance to see clear shots of the door handles and ignition.
Gfn8r
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Re: Still can't see push start? [View News Item]    (Score: 1, Normal) 08-15-2012 20:44
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rancho1 wrote:
It's good to see real photos instead of just the computer generated renderings, but I love how all the photos are at the wrong angle and distance to see clear shots of the door handles and ignition.


That object on the console is a Honda keyless fob--it looks just like the ones in the Acura O/Ms.

It is funny how every pic we've seen of an upper-end Accord is an over-the-driver's-shoulder view. In this case, how this guy even got these pics without attracting attention is surprising! (The Accord appears to be running, and there's a guy getting into the cab of the hauler with the Sonata on the back!)
Gfn8r
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Re: Still can't see push start? [View News Item]    (Score: 1, Normal) 08-15-2012 20:48
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And I should have finished by saying that that view hides the rest of the center-stack and the ignition button.
rancho1
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Re: Still can't see push start? [View News Item]    (Score: 1, Normal) 08-15-2012 21:08
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One more thing. There does not really have to be a lock button on the door handle when there is proximity detecting keyless entry. Toyotas don't have the buttons on their door handles. You just touch the door handle with your fingers and it locks and unlocks without pressing any button.
Looks cleaner and is even more magical to use when you don't have to press on a button.
vh2k
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Re: Still can't see push start? [View News Item]    (Score: 1, Normal) 08-15-2012 21:11
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These "leaks" are not leaks at all. Carefully crafted launch strategy to trickle out the info over the next four weeks to maintain the enthusiasm. Someone takes a staged pic... but doesn't bother snapping a few more to capture the entire interior. Not a coincidence.
dominik331
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Re: Still can't see push start? [View News Item]    (Score: 1, Normal) 08-15-2012 21:17
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vh2k wrote:
These "leaks" are not leaks at all. Carefully crafted launch strategy to trickle out the info over the next four weeks to maintain the enthusiasm. Someone takes a staged pic... but doesn't bother snapping a few more to capture the entire interior. Not a coincidence.



And the Problem with that is?
Stien Azani
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Re: Still can't see push start? [View News Item]    (Score: 1, Normal) 08-16-2012 01:07
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the engine is running...and the key is there..it's completely key less system.
kirk
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Re: Still can't see push start? [View News Item]    (Score: 1, Normal) 08-16-2012 07:22
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The keys could be for the Sonata, lol.
Dren
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Re: Still can't see push start? [View News Item]    (Score: 1, Normal) 08-16-2012 08:04
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It's right next to the engine, you have to pop the hood to start it. It makes it that much more novel that way.
Honda1
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Re: Still can't see push start? [View News Item]    (Score: 1, Normal) 08-16-2012 08:25
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How do you know the engine is running? It's not too obvious.
starbai
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Re: Still can't see push start? [View News Item]    (Score: 1, Normal) 08-16-2012 09:42
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kirk wrote:
The keys could be for the Sonata, lol.

nope too long and skinny to be a hyundai fob. (i know family members have genesis coupe, genesis sedan, and sonata and they all use the exact same keyless fob)
BorisHonda
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Re: Still can't see push start? [View News Item]    (Score: 1, Normal) 08-16-2012 09:45
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Honda1 wrote:
How do you know the engine is running? It's not too obvious.


RPM needle is not at 0; NAVI or iMID is on; engine temp and gas tank indicators are not at 0.
This is all irrelevant; one guy to take ONLY 3 pictures? He was using his phone? Ever heard of VIDEO function instead of taking pictures?
Yes, this is all staged to build interest. Not a bad thing but this is like cutting dog's tail piece by piece instead of proper piece. Very Low tactics.
Honda now HAS to fight for its share of the market invaded by Koreans, Nisan, Americans.
Do you prefer to peek under girls skirt or to see he completely exposed? This is the same thing.
Tigerriot
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Re: Still can't see push start? [View News Item]    (Score: 1, Normal) 08-16-2012 10:24
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I agree with the comments about the photos being staged. A random guy walking up on this car would have snapped a hell of a lot more than 3 odd angled photos. How long could it have taken to snap 5 more? 10 seconds?


Anyway, I'm not saying this because it's important, just pointing it out for those who seem to be fooled into thinking these really are just pictures from some random guy.
Trip
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Re: Still can't see push start? [View News Item]    (Score: 1, Normal) 08-16-2012 11:44
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rancho1 wrote:
One more thing. There does not really have to be a lock button on the door handle when there is proximity detecting keyless entry. Toyotas don't have the buttons on their door handles. You just touch the door handle with your fingers and it locks and unlocks without pressing any button.
Looks cleaner and is even more magical to use when you don't have to press on a button.



The extra button (usually called a request button) in addition to the handle sensor manages other options. When I walk up to my Mazda, only the driver door unlocks. Tapping the request button allows me to open all the doors. The request button can control the windows and allow you to immediately relock as well. I agree, maybe not as clean looking but I use that extra button quite a bit. Without it, you would have to dig the fob out for some functions.
Gfn8r
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Re: Still can't see push start? [View News Item]    (Score: 1, Normal) 08-16-2012 12:33
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Trip wrote:
rancho1 wrote:
One more thing. There does not really have to be a lock button on the door handle when there is proximity detecting keyless entry. Toyotas don't have the buttons on their door handles. You just touch the door handle with your fingers and it locks and unlocks without pressing any button.
Looks cleaner and is even more magical to use when you don't have to press on a button.



The extra button (usually called a request button) in addition to the handle sensor manages other options. When I walk up to my Mazda, only the driver door unlocks. Tapping the request button allows me to open all the doors. The request button can control the windows and allow you to immediately relock as well. I agree, maybe not as clean looking but I use that extra button quite a bit. Without it, you would have to dig the fob out for some functions.



IIRC from Acura O/Ms, there is a button which can be used to lock the doors with the fob in your pocket. (I think you can program whether the driver door or all doors unlock when you touch the handle by using the setup menus in the i-Mid, but perhaps pressing the button will pop all the locks--I'm not sure which.)

I've seen Toyotas and Lexi with the buttons. Do they have an updated system with sensors now? (I thought that those buttons were used for both locking and unlocking on the Toyotas, with no sensors in the handle.)

As usual, I could be incorrect! ;-)
Mikeydred
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Re: Still can't see push start? [View News Item]    (Score: 1, Normal) 08-16-2012 13:58
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Gfn8r wrote:
Trip wrote:
rancho1 wrote:
One more thing. There does not really have to be a lock button on the door handle when there is proximity detecting keyless entry. Toyotas don't have the buttons on their door handles. You just touch the door handle with your fingers and it locks and unlocks without pressing any button.
Looks cleaner and is even more magical to use when you don't have to press on a button.



The extra button (usually called a request button) in addition to the handle sensor manages other options. When I walk up to my Mazda, only the driver door unlocks. Tapping the request button allows me to open all the doors. The request button can control the windows and allow you to immediately relock as well. I agree, maybe not as clean looking but I use that extra button quite a bit. Without it, you would have to dig the fob out for some functions.



IIRC from Acura O/Ms, there is a button which can be used to lock the doors with the fob in your pocket. (I think you can program whether the driver door or all doors unlock when you touch the handle by using the setup menus in the i-Mid, but perhaps pressing the button will pop all the locks--I'm not sure which.)

I've seen Toyotas and Lexi with the buttons. Do they have an updated system with sensors now? (I thought that those buttons were used for both locking and unlocking on the Toyotas, with no sensors in the handle.)

As usual, I could be incorrect! ;-)


You are correct the TL has a black button on the door handle that can be programmed in the MID to open drivers door our all doors. RL has a button too, but is chrome to blend with the door handle. I would assume the EDX and the ILX have the same set up as the RL and TL. The new Lexus models the button is now integrated in the handle more like a touch sensor, there are tine groves n the location touch, but models like the last generation ES, GS and RX all had buttons.
Trip
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Re: Still can't see push start? [View News Item]    (Score: 1, Normal) 08-16-2012 14:07
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Gfn8r wrote:

IIRC from Acura O/Ms, there is a button which can be used to lock the doors with the fob in your pocket. (I think you can program whether the driver door or all doors unlock when you touch the handle by using the setup menus in the i-Mid, but perhaps pressing the button will pop all the locks--I'm not sure which.)

I've seen Toyotas and Lexi with the buttons. Do they have an updated system with sensors now? (I thought that those buttons were used for both locking and unlocking on the Toyotas, with no sensors in the handle.)

As usual, I could be incorrect! ;-)




I'm sure there are different variations on the keyless entry thing. My Mazda uses a sensor in the door handle and a request switch. Both the handle and request switch can be programmed to operate together, separately, in sequence or not at all.

My programming preference is for the handle to open only the driver door. To open all doors I'll tap the request switch. To lock/unlock/arm security, with all doors closed I can tap the request switch if I want it to happen immediately rather than pause as I walk away. Unfortunately it's a dealer mod only - first program is free, all others are at cost (I lumped in turn signal operation, doors, etc... together). I hope the next '6 will have a user programmable feature that doesn't require a dealership visit.
MasterOfDaDomain
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Re: Still can't see push start? [View News Item]    (Score: 1, Normal) 08-16-2012 16:11
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BorisHonda wrote:
Honda1 wrote:
How do you know the engine is running? It's not too obvious.


RPM needle is not at 0; NAVI or iMID is on; engine temp and gas tank indicators are not at 0.
This is all irrelevant; one guy to take ONLY 3 pictures? He was using his phone? Ever heard of VIDEO function instead of taking pictures?
Yes, this is all staged to build interest. Not a bad thing but this is like cutting dog's tail piece by piece instead of proper piece. Very Low tactics.
Honda now HAS to fight for its share of the market invaded by Koreans, Nisan, Americans.
Do you prefer to peek under girls skirt or to see he completely exposed? This is the same thing.



I guess it all depends on the girl :-)
rancho1
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Re: Still can't see push start? [View News Item]    (Score: 1, Normal) 08-17-2012 00:09
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Gfn8r wrote:
Trip wrote:
rancho1 wrote:
One more thing. There does not really have to be a lock button on the door handle when there is proximity detecting keyless entry. Toyotas don't have the buttons on their door handles. You just touch the door handle with your fingers and it locks and unlocks without pressing any button.
Looks cleaner and is even more magical to use when you don't have to press on a button.



The extra button (usually called a request button) in addition to the handle sensor manages other options. When I walk up to my Mazda, only the driver door unlocks. Tapping the request button allows me to open all the doors. The request button can control the windows and allow you to immediately relock as well. I agree, maybe not as clean looking but I use that extra button quite a bit. Without it, you would have to dig the fob out for some functions.



IIRC from Acura O/Ms, there is a button which can be used to lock the doors with the fob in your pocket. (I think you can program whether the driver door or all doors unlock when you touch the handle by using the setup menus in the i-Mid, but perhaps pressing the button will pop all the locks--I'm not sure which.)

I've seen Toyotas and Lexi with the buttons. Do they have an updated system with sensors now? (I thought that those buttons were used for both locking and unlocking on the Toyotas, with no sensors in the handle.)

As usual, I could be incorrect! ;-)



The newest Toyotas don't have the button. The handle is touch sensitive at certain spots. There is a texture on it so you can feel where to touch.
All the 2010+ Prius models and the 2012 Camrys that have optional keyless start have it.
I assume any Toyota or Lexus model with keyless start that was redesigned for 2010 or later would have it.
Husker
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Re: Still can't see push start? [View News Item]    (Score: 1, Normal) 08-21-2012 22:10
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Saw this on Drive Accord.

XDreammachineX
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Re: Still can't see push start? [View News Item]    (Score: 1, Normal) 08-22-2012 01:41
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OH YES! FINALLY! Thanks for posting!
FiSH-Chan
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Re: Still can't see push start? [View News Item]    (Score: 1, Normal) 08-22-2012 05:19
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rancho1 wrote:
The newest Toyotas don't have the button. The handle is touch sensitive at certain spots. There is a texture on it so you can feel where to touch.
All the 2010+ Prius models and the 2012 Camrys that have optional keyless start have it.
I assume any Toyota or Lexus model with keyless start that was redesigned for 2010 or later would have it.



The ASEAN Civic I tried had the same thing. The back of the handle has this really slick surface that when I touch it opens the door, so just place the hand into the handle as if you're opening the door. Not sure if the same thing you're talking about though.
Gfn8r
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Re: Still can't see push start? [View News Item]    (Score: 1, Normal) 08-22-2012 09:51
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Husker wrote:
Saw this on Drive Accord.




Too bad we can't see more of the shifter--if it's a stick, EX-Ls get it, at least. (Especially since this one obviously has the Nav.)

Although, all of the cars in that vid didn't have LED anything in the front.... (::Shrugs.::)
A77
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Re: Still can't see push start? [View News Item]    (Score: 1, Normal) 08-28-2012 16:17
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I have just heard we are going to be able to fit push button start/proximity systems in any current Honda (except Fit) very shortly. Cost estimated to be about $700 extra when added into remote start install. Includes replacement door handle with "the button". If/when we get one done I'll try to remember to take pics.
Trip
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Re: Still can't see push start? [View News Item]    (Score: 1, Normal) 08-30-2012 11:06
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Husker wrote:
Saw this on Drive Accord.




Holy crap, Batman. Look at the angle of the head rest. :-o I hope the seat is more comfortable than it looks.
XDreammachineX
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Re: Still can't see push start? [View News Item]    (Score: 1, Normal) 09-03-2012 04:46
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Wow, that would be great, if they also offer this option in US Hondas. For $700, I think there will be many takers, especially for the soccer mom vehicles.
 
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