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should I buy an extra gas can?    (Score: 1, Normal) 08-06-2012 13:06
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should I buy an extra gas can for 6hr drive to national park?

I am going camping soon. There are few gas stations up far from the city. I am concerned about insufficient gas.
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Re: should I buy an extra gas can?    (Score: 1, Normal) 08-06-2012 13:12
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should I buy an extra gas can for 6hr drive to national park?

I am going camping soon. There are few gas stations up far from the city. I am concerned about insufficient gas.


What car?
Dren
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Re: should I buy an extra gas can?    (Score: 1, Normal) 08-06-2012 13:23
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picard wrote:
should I buy an extra gas can for 6hr drive to national park?

I am going camping soon. There are few gas stations up far from the city. I am concerned about insufficient gas.



Depends. Do you plan on buying extra gas to put in your extra gas can?
superchg2
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Re: should I buy an extra gas can?    (Score: 1, Normal) 08-06-2012 13:55
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While you are in national park, beware of visiting sasquatch.




P54
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Re: should I buy an extra gas can?    (Score: 1, Normal) 08-06-2012 14:59
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picard wrote:
should I buy an extra gas can for 6hr drive to national park?

I am going camping soon. There are few gas stations up far from the city. I am concerned about insufficient gas.




For 6hr one way or round trip? If round trip you should not need, if one way you better if I estimate the 6 hour trip to be between 300-400 miles. Or find out where the last gas station on the way to the park is and fill up there before going to the park.

Hot like it is now I would be careful to store the gas out of extreme heat and in the shade. Maybe store it in a cooler?

If everything fails make sure to bring along a siphon (you can get them at Wal-Mart in the marine section).so you can transfer fuel from a park ranger vehicle. I'm sure they will help a fellow in need.

Is the car in good shape for the trip? New oil and filter. Air filter? Tires? Make sure to check tire pressure on cold tires before heading out.
picard
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Re: should I buy an extra gas can?    (Score: 1, Normal) 08-06-2012 15:53
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picard wrote:
should I buy an extra gas can for 6hr drive to national park?

I am going camping soon. There are few gas stations up far from the city. I am concerned about insufficient gas.





For 6hr one way or round trip? If round trip you should not need, if one way you better if I estimate the 6 hour trip to be between 300-400 miles. Or find out where the last gas station on the way to the park is and fill up there before going to the park.

Hot like it is now I would be careful to store the gas out of extreme heat and in the shade. Maybe store it in a cooler?

If everything fails make sure to bring along a siphon (you can get them at Wal-Mart in the marine section).so you can transfer fuel from a park ranger vehicle. I'm sure they will help a fellow in need.

Is the car in good shape for the trip? New oil and filter. Air filter? Tires? Make sure to check tire pressure on cold tires before heading out.



the trip is 6hrs each way. Total time would be 12hrs for round trip.
picard
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Re: should I buy an extra gas can?    (Score: 1, Normal) 08-06-2012 15:55
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Dren wrote:
picard wrote:
should I buy an extra gas can for 6hr drive to national park?

I am going camping soon. There are few gas stations up far from the city. I am concerned about insufficient gas.



Depends. Do you plan on buying extra gas to put in your extra gas can?



I wasn't planing to buy gas for gas can. I am just being cautious since I will be in the boonies at that time.
TonyEX
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Re: should I buy an extra gas can?    (Score: 1, Normal) 08-06-2012 15:57
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picard wrote:
P54 wrote:
picard wrote:
should I buy an extra gas can for 6hr drive to national park?

I am going camping soon. There are few gas stations up far from the city. I am concerned about insufficient gas.





For 6hr one way or round trip? If round trip you should not need, if one way you better if I estimate the 6 hour trip to be between 300-400 miles. Or find out where the last gas station on the way to the park is and fill up there before going to the park.

Hot like it is now I would be careful to store the gas out of extreme heat and in the shade. Maybe store it in a cooler?

If everything fails make sure to bring along a siphon (you can get them at Wal-Mart in the marine section).so you can transfer fuel from a park ranger vehicle. I'm sure they will help a fellow in need.

Is the car in good shape for the trip? New oil and filter. Air filter? Tires? Make sure to check tire pressure on cold tires before heading out.



the trip is 6hrs each way. Total time would be 12hrs for round trip.



Surely there must be gas stations along the way, huh?

Where is this National Park? Kilimanjaro? If so you'll need a Land Rover or Land Cruiser and a few 5 gallon jerry tanks full of diesel.

If it's in North America, I'm sure they got gas stations in the National Park. Heck, if in the US or Canada, you can usually get a good burger and a beer in National Parks ( better beer in Canada, better burgers in the US, take your pick ).

I think you worry too much.
Waldo
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Re: should I buy an extra gas can?    (Score: 1, Normal) 08-06-2012 16:16
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I agree with TonyE. You worry too much. National parks that allow cars have gas stations available. Save the space for beer.

You taking your 93 Accord?

superchg2
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Re: should I buy an extra gas can?    (Score: 1, Normal) 08-06-2012 16:39
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Waldo wrote:
I agree with TonyE. You worry too much. National parks that allow cars have gas stations available. Save the space for beer.

You taking your 93 Accord?



Don't forget to rotate the muffler bearings on the Accord before you set off into the wilderness.

98EX4cyl
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Re: should I buy an extra gas can?    (Score: 1, Normal) 08-06-2012 16:41
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picard wrote:
Dren wrote:
picard wrote:
should I buy an extra gas can for 6hr drive to national park?

I am going camping soon. There are few gas stations up far from the city. I am concerned about insufficient gas.



Depends. Do you plan on buying extra gas to put in your extra gas can?



I wasn't planing to buy gas for gas can. I am just being cautious since I will be in the boonies at that time.



Don't worry about a gas can- on the way back down the mountains if you run out you can just put it in neutral, turn off the engine and coast to the next gas station.
Grace141
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Re: should I buy an extra gas can?    (Score: 1, Normal) 08-06-2012 18:13
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Picard, can you tell us the national park so someone can chime in with locations of gas stations? Are we talking about the US, Canada or some other country? Yellowstone, Grand Canyon, Painted Desert, Big Bend, Smoky Mountains, Everglades, etc. all have gas stations nearby so no worries.

That said, my brother-in-law worked as a park ranger in Great Basin several years ago. Yes, he kept a nearly full 5-gallon plastic gas can strapped next to the spare tire under his 4wd pickup - the nearest gas station in Ely, NV wasn't a 24hr store. If you're 50 miles from civilization and you run out of gas a 1-gallon can would just make your walk shorter.
picard
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Re: should I buy an extra gas can?    (Score: 1, Normal) 08-06-2012 20:15
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Waldo wrote:
I agree with TonyE. You worry too much. National parks that allow cars have gas stations available. Save the space for beer.

You taking your 93 Accord?





yes. I am taking 93 accord with me.
picard
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Re: should I buy an extra gas can?    (Score: 1, Normal) 08-06-2012 20:19
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Grace141 wrote:
Picard, can you tell us the national park so someone can chime in with locations of gas stations? Are we talking about the US, Canada or some other country? Yellowstone, Grand Canyon, Painted Desert, Big Bend, Smoky Mountains, Everglades, etc. all have gas stations nearby so no worries.

That said, my brother-in-law worked as a park ranger in Great Basin several years ago. Yes, he kept a nearly full 5-gallon plastic gas can strapped next to the spare tire under his 4wd pickup - the nearest gas station in Ely, NV wasn't a 24hr store. If you're 50 miles from civilization and you run out of gas a 1-gallon can would just make your walk shorter.




This is Canadian national park,Algonquin. I don't have time to visit US parks.
picard
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Re: should I buy an extra gas can?    (Score: 1, Normal) 08-06-2012 20:20
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superchg2 wrote:
Waldo wrote:
I agree with TonyE. You worry too much. National parks that allow cars have gas stations available. Save the space for beer.

You taking your 93 Accord?



Don't forget to rotate the muffler bearings on the Accord before you set off into the wilderness.





what do you mean rotate muffler bearings ? Are you serious?
superchg2
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Re: should I buy an extra gas can?    (Score: 1, Normal) 08-06-2012 21:17
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picard wrote:
superchg2 wrote:
Waldo wrote:
I agree with TonyE. You worry too much. National parks that allow cars have gas stations available. Save the space for beer.

You taking your 93 Accord?



Don't forget to rotate the muffler bearings on the Accord before you set off into the wilderness.





what do you mean rotate muffler bearings ? Are you serious?


Actually, muffler's don't have bearings. The diagram looks pretty real though, doesn't it?
Waldo
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Re: should I buy an extra gas can?    (Score: 1, Normal) 08-07-2012 00:13
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picard wrote:

This is Canadian national park, Algonquin. I don't have time to visit US parks.


Now that is a beautiful park! I found time to visit it once. Great canoe country, great memories. Are you camping?

(Just for the nit picking record, Algonquin is an Ontario Provincial Park, not a Canadian National Park.)

There is the Portage Store in the park that sells gas. but you are better off buying outside the park at any of several Esso and Shell stations at the west entrances.

Dren
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Re: should I buy an extra gas can?    (Score: 1, Normal) 08-07-2012 06:52
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picard wrote:
Dren wrote:
picard wrote:
should I buy an extra gas can for 6hr drive to national park?

I am going camping soon. There are few gas stations up far from the city. I am concerned about insufficient gas.



Depends. Do you plan on buying extra gas to put in your extra gas can?



I wasn't planing to buy gas for gas can. I am just being cautious since I will be in the boonies at that time.



Ahh excellent call. I would take 3 extra gas cans then. You never know when you'll lose one.
Grace141
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Re: should I buy an extra gas can?    (Score: 1, Normal) 08-07-2012 07:03
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That does indeed look like a beautiful area.

http://algonquinpark.on.ca/

I've spent a little time in Thunder Bay but sadly little time elsewhere in Ontario. Still, the areas I've seen have been pretty and count me as an American fan of:

http://www.timhortons.com/ca/en/index.html

Picard, have a great get-away. Looks like there is a ban on open fires so don't forget your camp stove.

kidoairaku
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Re: should I buy an extra gas can?    (Score: 1, Normal) 08-07-2012 09:32
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Algonquin?? there's plenty of gas stations up there. You'll be on the highway for the first 4 hours so there's "enRoute's" all along there not to mention the 10 towns you'll pass through to get there.
We ride our bikes into Algonquin and some of us only have a 200km tank.
you're fine.
picard
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Re: should I buy an extra gas can?    (Score: 1, Normal) 08-07-2012 19:08
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kidoairaku wrote:
Algonquin?? there's plenty of gas stations up there. You'll be on the highway for the first 4 hours so there's "enRoute's" all along there not to mention the 10 towns you'll pass through to get there.
We ride our bikes into Algonquin and some of us only have a 200km tank.
you're fine.



how do you guys lock your bikes while camping? Do you rent your bikes ? I feel nervous about bringing my own bike because I don't want to get it stolen.
P54
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Re: should I buy an extra gas can?    (Score: 1, Normal) 08-07-2012 19:38
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picard wrote:
kidoairaku wrote:
Algonquin?? there's plenty of gas stations up there. You'll be on the highway for the first 4 hours so there's "enRoute's" all along there not to mention the 10 towns you'll pass through to get there.
We ride our bikes into Algonquin and some of us only have a 200km tank.
you're fine.



how do you guys lock your bikes while camping? Do you rent your bikes ? I feel nervous about bringing my own bike because I don't want to get it stolen.



Are you talking about bicycle or motorcycle?

picard
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Re: should I buy an extra gas can?    (Score: 1, Normal) 08-07-2012 20:18
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P54 wrote:
picard wrote:
kidoairaku wrote:
Algonquin?? there's plenty of gas stations up there. You'll be on the highway for the first 4 hours so there's "enRoute's" all along there not to mention the 10 towns you'll pass through to get there.
We ride our bikes into Algonquin and some of us only have a 200km tank.
you're fine.



how do you guys lock your bikes while camping? Do you rent your bikes ? I feel nervous about bringing my own bike because I don't want to get it stolen.



Are you talking about bicycle or motorcycle?





I am referring to bicycle. I have a high tech bicycle that is equivalent to BMW. It is my poor man BMW.
P54
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Re: should I buy an extra gas can?    (Score: 1, Normal) 08-07-2012 21:31
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picard wrote:
P54 wrote:
picard wrote:
kidoairaku wrote:
Algonquin?? there's plenty of gas stations up there. You'll be on the highway for the first 4 hours so there's "enRoute's" all along there not to mention the 10 towns you'll pass through to get there.
We ride our bikes into Algonquin and some of us only have a 200km tank.
you're fine.



how do you guys lock your bikes while camping? Do you rent your bikes ? I feel nervous about bringing my own bike because I don't want to get it stolen.



Are you talking about bicycle or motorcycle?





I am referring to bicycle. I have a high tech bicycle that is equivalent to BMW. It is my poor man BMW.



That is what I thought and it confused me because the other guys talked about a motorbike.

If you have an expensive bike they will have quick release wheels and seats. Remove the front wheel and seat and store them inside the trunk of your car at night and if car is not there store it inside your tent when you sleep.

Also go to a hardware store and buy some chain and lock your bike to a tree, your car etc. and buy a nylon coated wire and tie one end to the bike and remaining wheel, the other end you take inside the tent and tie it to your big toe or a stake in the ground, then tie a string with bells on it to the wire that goes to the bike. That will wake you up and scare thieves away. Make sure you have pepper spray handy.

You can also rig a battery operated alarm that goes off if someone moves you bike. Or mount a "deer camera" that will take pictures if someone, two legged or four legged, come close to your bike or tent. Just the flash will discourage thieves.

For short stops on the way and when you leave the bike unsupervised you can buy lightweight small combination lock with small wire, small enough to fit in your pocket and can be used to lock luggage at airports, bikes etc. The lock will not stop professionals, however just discourage someone to be tempted to take off with your bike when it is unattended but you still be close by.

The small wire lock can also be used to lock your bike to your tent post so if someone try to move the bike at night your tent will shake. If you tie some bells to the tent too that will scare them away. Like I said it will not prevent professionals that show up with wire cutters or a van they load the bike into, but those that at the spur of the moment decide to steal an easy to steal bike.

Cheap small wire lock, many uses:

http://www.motorcycle-superstore.com/1/4/74/2779/ITEM/Kryptonite-R4-Combination-Cable-Lock.aspx
superchg2
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Re: should I buy an extra gas can?    (Score: 1, Normal) 08-08-2012 02:04
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P54 wrote:
picard wrote:
P54 wrote:
picard wrote:
kidoairaku wrote:
Algonquin?? there's plenty of gas stations up there. You'll be on the highway for the first 4 hours so there's "enRoute's" all along there not to mention the 10 towns you'll pass through to get there.
We ride our bikes into Algonquin and some of us only have a 200km tank.
you're fine.



how do you guys lock your bikes while camping? Do you rent your bikes ? I feel nervous about bringing my own bike because I don't want to get it stolen.



Are you talking about bicycle or motorcycle?





I am referring to bicycle. I have a high tech bicycle that is equivalent to BMW. It is my poor man BMW.



That is what I thought and it confused me because the other guys talked about a motorbike.

If you have an expensive bike they will have quick release wheels and seats. Remove the front wheel and seat and store them inside the trunk of your car at night and if car is not there store it inside your tent when you sleep.

Also go to a hardware store and buy some chain and lock your bike to a tree, your car etc. and buy a nylon coated wire and tie one end to the bike and remaining wheel, the other end you take inside the tent and tie it to your big toe or a stake in the ground, then tie a string with bells on it to the wire that goes to the bike. That will wake you up and scare thieves away. Make sure you have pepper spray handy.

You can also rig a battery operated alarm that goes off if someone moves you bike. Or mount a "deer camera" that will take pictures if someone, two legged or four legged, come close to your bike or tent. Just the flash will discourage thieves.

For short stops on the way and when you leave the bike unsupervised you can buy lightweight small combination lock with small wire, small enough to fit in your pocket and can be used to lock luggage at airports, bikes etc. The lock will not stop professionals, however just discourage someone to be tempted to take off with your bike when it is unattended but you still be close by.

The small wire lock can also be used to lock your bike to your tent post so if someone try to move the bike at night your tent will shake. If you tie some bells to the tent too that will scare them away. Like I said it will not prevent professionals that show up with wire cutters or a van they load the bike into, but those that at the spur of the moment decide to steal an easy to steal bike.

Cheap small wire lock, many uses:

http://www.motorcycle-superstore.com/1/4/74/2779/ITEM/Kryptonite-R4-Combination-Cable-Lock.aspx


 
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