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Dren
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Civic Si vs Mugen spring rates    (Score: 1, Normal) 08-04-2012 10:24
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My buddy just totaled his Mugen Si. One damper is shot, but all the springs are in good shape. Are the spring rates that much different than stock Si rates? I know the drop will be about half an inch over stock. I really wanted both damper and springs, but no luck due to the damage. I want to swap parts before the insurance company totals the car. I just am looking for some input on if this would be worth the effort.

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superchg2
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Re: Civic Si vs Mugen spring rates    (Score: 1, Normal) 08-04-2012 10:47
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Dren wrote:
My buddy just totaled his Mugen Si. One damper is shot, but all the springs are in good shape. Are the spring rates that much different than stock Si rates? I know the drop will be about half an inch over stock. I really wanted both damper and springs, but no luck due to the damage. I want to swap parts before the insurance company totals the car. I just am looking for some input on if this would be worth the effort.

Thanks


Make sure to get the Mugen emblem off the trunk.
CarPhreakD
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Re: Civic Si vs Mugen spring rates    (Score: 1, Normal) 08-04-2012 12:18
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I believe it's similar to the HPD set, which means that they are a bit stiffer. I wouldn't get the springs unless they're matched to the dampers (why not replace the damper?).

What you really want from that car are the wheels, if they're still intact. Those Mugen rollers are highly sought after.
typer_801
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Re: Civic Si vs Mugen spring rates    (Score: 1, Normal) 08-06-2012 10:41
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Acording to the press releases, ride height will be 15mm (0.6in) lower than stock and shock valving increased 8-24% (stiffer). Didn't specify front vs rear. I couldn't find a spring rate absolute or increase # listed for the Mugen Si .

However, springs rates would probably be closely matched to shocks, but likely wouldn't exceed the increases in shock dampening (probably a little less in fact).

My opinion, it's a small change and for the cost of a replacement Mugen shock, you'd be better off getting Koni's shocks all around, particularly if the existing Mugen shocks have over 40K miles (the best part of their life is gone).

Springs, your choice. Lots of affordable choices, but few drop as little as the OEM Mugen Si springs and most probably offer a little higher spring rates. If Mugen is your game, then by all means....
Dren
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Re: Civic Si vs Mugen spring rates    (Score: 1, Normal) 08-06-2012 13:11
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CarPhreakD wrote:
I believe it's similar to the HPD set, which means that they are a bit stiffer. I wouldn't get the springs unless they're matched to the dampers (why not replace the damper?).

What you really want from that car are the wheels, if they're still intact. Those Mugen rollers are highly sought after.



One wheel is damaged. I really wanted the wheels, I was going to do a quick swap. I got a few parts that I needed.
garoto628
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Re: Civic Si vs Mugen spring rates    (Score: 1, Normal) 08-06-2012 21:49
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Dren wrote:
CarPhreakD wrote:
I believe it's similar to the HPD set, which means that they are a bit stiffer. I wouldn't get the springs unless they're matched to the dampers (why not replace the damper?).

What you really want from that car are the wheels, if they're still intact. Those Mugen rollers are highly sought after.



One wheel is damaged. I really wanted the wheels, I was going to do a quick swap. I got a few parts that I needed.




Well, it's kind of hard for a totaled car to have all four corners intact lol.

With 40,000 miles on the clock, the cost of replacing one damper may not be worth it in my opinion. I know that the springs are significantly stiffer and lower than stock, forget about the numbers on paper, when you ride the car it's day and night.

The wheels are much lighter than stock also. I would call it quits. The cost to replace the wheel and the damper are not worth it in my view, considering that you clearly weren't planning to purchase.
 
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