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.nyet.

Your latest post reveals the words of someone who cannot refute empirical scientific measurements and chooses instead to attach the messenger.

Has it occurred to you that those staffers and those politicians likely developed their views by checking for themselves?

That explains my position exposing the fraud that is BS AGW. I checked for myself and found three main things:
- there is no empirical scientific evidence that human CO2 drives global climate;
- claims that human CO2 drives global climate are built on massive orchestrated corruption and UN IPCC fraud;
- there is much empirical evidence proving human CO2 did not, does not and cannot drive global climate.

(1.) nyt_reader, let's check your thinking and the basis of your position: please provide scientifically measured empirical evidence that human production of CO2 caused Earth's latest modest cyclical global ATMOSPHERIC warming that ended in 1998.

And provide logical scientific reasoning that human CO2 was the cause.

Secondly, statements and a question on peer-review.

Consider the UN IPCC. It has no peer-reviewed science with empirical evidence proving human CO2 driving climate

In fact, the UN IPCC corrupts, bypasses and at times prevents scientific peer-review.

The data it uses to claim rising temperature is ground-based, not atmospheric and the database is prevented from being reviewed by external scientists. Thus, it should be dismissed as unscientific. It's not science.

Are you aware that NASA, NOAA and UN IPCC, while appearing to be three independent sources all use the same corrupted raw temperature database? The CRU's database programmer says, quote, that the database

is in a hopeless state

See top of page 4 here:
http://scienceandpublicpolicy.org/images/stories/papers/originals/surface_temp.pdf

Are you aware of this paper revealing massive corruption of ground-based temperatures?

If not, why not?

UN IPCC deliberately excludes 90,000 reliable CO2 measurements taken in the last 180 years, including those by Nobel prize winners in science.

(2.) Check what you claim to be scientifically peer-reviewed literature and please provide me with one such paper proving empirically that human CO2 drives climate.

You are aware aren't you that empirical evidence is science's final arbiter?

Here's a peer-reviewed scientific paper that proves that global temperature is driven by natural ocean-atmospheric cycles:
http://members.iinet.net.au/~glrmc/McLean_deFreitas_Carter_JGR_2009.pdf

Here's a paper by a leading American meteorologist comparing the effects of CO2, solar irradiance and ocean-atmospheric cycles on climate:
http://icecap.us/images/uploads/US_Temperatures_and_Climate_Factors_since_1895.pdf

Awaiting your empirical evidence and list of scientifically peer-reviewed papers providing evidence of your implied claim about human CO2 driving climate.