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6thaccord
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Accord 'Sport' - Love the 'dual exhaust' and others features [View News Item]    (Score: 1, Normal) 07-15-2012 20:11
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I have posted here in 2002 and left, and still have the 2002 Accord with 195000 km and will be trading in this car for the new Accord Sedan 'Sport' in Sept. 2012. I have always wish Honda would follow the Camry SE, with dual exhaust and projector head light, etc. And finally my wish came 'true'. Thank you. It's about time.

I'm not a hardcore Honda racer but love their styling from the 80s, (agreed, the recent styling sucks big time) but as a father now, the New Accord Sport will make me happy to continue buying Honda. Cheers. Keep it up Honda.
Tigerriot
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Re: Accord 'Sport' - Love the 'dual exhaust' and others features [View News Item]    (Score: 1, Normal) 07-16-2012 00:17
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I'm excited about the Sport trim, as long as it offers a leather steering wheel. They'd better get that right.
Honda1
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Re: Accord 'Sport' - Love the 'dual exhaust' and others features [View News Item]    (Score: 1, Normal) 07-16-2012 06:13
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Seats with leather inserts would ne nice
Drum
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Re: Accord 'Sport' - Love the 'dual exhaust' and others features [View News Item]    (Score: 1, Normal) 07-16-2012 10:44
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Kinda dissapointed in the sport. The spoiler is is just a tacky add on that blocks view to the rear and 18" wheels are only for style and not practical if you hit a curb or pothole. They also weigh more (hurting performance) and replacement tires will cost a fortune.

I do really like the dual exhausts, upgraded seats and fog lights. Maybe I could swap out the wheels and trunk lid with an EX (unless the spoiler can be removed without leaving holes)

I could get the EX (I am assuming it has no spoiler ) but the sunroof takes away too much headroom.

Even the LX might work, but I sure would like the extra adjustment of the power seats - seats are what I like least on my 2007 Accord.
A77
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Re: Accord 'Sport' - Love the 'dual exhaust' and others features [View News Item]    (Score: 1, Normal) 07-16-2012 10:56
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I am sure you could find a dealer who would do a trunk lid swap if you don`t want the spoiler - we have done it (for Accord V6 coupes where the bigger optional wing spoiler is wanted). Likewise wheels. I dont see the point of front fog lights - they are just a cash cow here - never needed but liable to break and hellish expensive to replace. I have heavy duty 3m film on mine - and never use them. if you use them a lot the film burns. +1 for 18s - just a style gimmick with real disadvantages and no advantages in the real world. I am hoping the existence of a Sport will mean firmer springing for that model and softer quieter springing for the rest of the range. Just like the old TL when the TLS came out. I reckon the LX could well be lower powered.

CivicB18
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Re: Accord 'Sport' - Love the 'dual exhaust' and others features [View News Item]    (Score: 1, Normal) 07-16-2012 11:17
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I'd like to think the rear spoiler on the Sport would be a lip spoiler which sits flush on the trunk similar to the current spoiler on the Accord coupe.


~Patrick
longhorn
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Re: Accord 'Sport' - Love the 'dual exhaust' and others features [View News Item]    (Score: 1, Normal) 07-16-2012 11:23
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Toyota is seeing a SE take rate of about 50% of all Camrys. With those kind of numbers and the fact Camry's average age of buyer has lowered a little with the new gen, Honda had to respond with a sport trim of their own. With 18 inch rims standard and not optional as on the Camry SE, Honda has upped the ante. Smart move Honda's part, it will be interesting to see which trim will be the most popular.
Trip
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Re: Accord 'Sport' - Love the 'dual exhaust' and others features [View News Item]    (Score: 1, Normal) 07-16-2012 11:56
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I've always felt (up until the 8th gen) that the standard Accord suspension handled as well as if not better than the Camry SE with its upgraded pieces over the standard Camry. I'm waiting to see if the Accord "Sport" trim is cosmetic upgrades only or if there are suspension and performance upgrades.

And here's a peyote induced dream . . . a top of the line Sport trim with 6MT, leather, and NAVI. Honda are you listening?
EX V6 SLUSHER
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Re: Accord 'Sport' - Love the 'dual exhaust' and others features [View News Item]    (Score: 1, Normal) 07-16-2012 12:17
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A77 wrote:
I am sure you could find a dealer who would do a trunk lid swap if you don`t want the spoiler - we have done it (for Accord V6 coupes where the bigger optional wing spoiler is wanted). Likewise wheels. I dont see the point of front fog lights - they are just a cash cow here - never needed but liable to break and hellish expensive to replace. I have heavy duty 3m film on mine - and never use them. if you use them a lot the film burns. +1 for 18s - just a style gimmick with real disadvantages and no advantages in the real world. I am hoping the existence of a Sport will mean firmer springing for that model and softer quieter springing for the rest of the range. Just like the old TL when the TLS came out. I reckon the LX could well be lower powered.





Trunklid swap?? As in 2 new non numbers matching vehicles? Explain that to the insurance inspector after an accident.
CivicB18
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Re: Accord 'Sport' - Love the 'dual exhaust' and others features [View News Item]    (Score: 1, Normal) 07-16-2012 12:36
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Trip wrote:
I've always felt (up until the 8th gen) that the standard Accord suspension handled as well as if not better than the Camry SE with its upgraded pieces over the standard Camry. I'm waiting to see if the Accord "Sport" trim is cosmetic upgrades only or if there are suspension and performance upgrades.

And here's a peyote induced dream . . . a top of the line Sport trim with 6MT, leather, and NAVI. Honda are you listening?




I'm not sure if Honda will make changes to the Accord Sport's chassis. However, the current Camry SE has sportier tuning and faster steering ratio among other things that make its ride/handling and tactile performance more interesting. I think Honda should do the same as visual sporty modifications will do nothing. Honda, if it's going to have a Sport trim make it feel sporty!


~Patrick
DCR
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Re: Accord 'Sport' - Love the 'dual exhaust' and others features [View News Item]    (Score: 1, Normal) 07-16-2012 12:59
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EX V6 SLUSHER wrote:
Trunklid swap?? As in 2 new non numbers matching vehicles? Explain that to the insurance inspector after an accident.


This is why you speak to your insurance provider prior to the swap and ask what they need to make this possible.

An "above the table" and documented situation like this poses no greater risk or cost to the insurance company. However, I am willing to bet an underwriter who is using common sense would question the potential increased cost of the added spoiler if damaged, as it was not factored in to the OEM cost.

So, my decision would be a noted policy that allows the trunk swap, with the expectation that the spoiler portion would not be a covered item in case of accident. I would also require photos and the new trunk number.

Husker
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Re: Accord 'Sport' - Love the 'dual exhaust' and others features [View News Item]    (Score: 1, Normal) 07-16-2012 13:13
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A77 wrote:
I am sure you could find a dealer who would do a trunk lid swap if you don`t want the spoiler - we have done it (for Accord V6 coupes where the bigger optional wing spoiler is wanted). Likewise wheels. I dont see the point of front fog lights - they are just a cash cow here - never needed but liable to break and hellish expensive to replace. I have heavy duty 3m film on mine - and never use them. if you use them a lot the film burns. +1 for 18s - just a style gimmick with real disadvantages and no advantages in the real world. I am hoping the existence of a Sport will mean firmer springing for that model and softer quieter springing for the rest of the range. Just like the old TL when the TLS came out. I reckon the LX could well be lower powered.





Trunklid swap?? As in 2 new non numbers matching vehicles? Explain that to the insurance inspector after an accident.


I will remove or swap out the UGLY and non functional spoiler + not worry what my insurance company thinks,,,It's a non issue.
A77
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Re: Accord 'Sport' - Love the 'dual exhaust' and others features [View News Item]    (Score: 1, Normal) 07-16-2012 16:21
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Don't get this at all. Spoilers are optional on lots of Hondas and is not an insurance issue. All 2010 and after Canadian civics came with spoilers standard. what about other dealer add ons - fog lights, tow hitches, aerokits etc. Some insurance companies want a bill of sale - which will have any changes from stock detailed. Others (inc mine) just want a verbal value. I had one Accord delivery - there was a major paint defect on the rear bumper that was only discovered the day of delivery - we swapped the bumper out from another identical unit. We chose not to advise the customer - would have done normally but we had already established he was completely unreasonable (so much so I did not want to sell them the car - and told him so). Anyway - it went ahead and his family checked all the VIN numbers and found the rear bumper was different. They took us to court. The judge thought they were being ridiculous and threw the case out. In fact commended us for the action we had taken.
ClementZ
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Re: Accord 'Sport' - Love the 'dual exhaust' and others features [View News Item]    (Score: 1, Normal) 07-16-2012 16:34
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Drum wrote:
Kinda dissapointed in the sport. The spoiler is is just a tacky add on that blocks view to the rear and 18" wheels are only for style and not practical if you hit a curb or pothole. They also weigh more (hurting performance) and replacement tires will cost a fortune.

I do really like the dual exhausts, upgraded seats and fog lights. Maybe I could swap out the wheels and trunk lid with an EX (unless the spoiler can be removed without leaving holes)

I could get the EX (I am assuming it has no spoiler ) but the sunroof takes away too much headroom.

Even the LX might work, but I sure would like the extra adjustment of the power seats - seats are what I like least on my 2007 Accord.



People like the look of larger wheels (case in point, ricers). Plus, if people buy the sport, they're probably prepared for more expensive tires. And when they say decklid spoiler, I imagine a small lip spoiler; not one of the huge ass wings you see on an F1 car for example. So any weight gain should be negligible.
The only other things that are coming on the Sport, that other trims don't have (that we've heard of so far; there has been no word on a different suspension set up) are foglights and flappy paddles (CVT only.) Wouldn't it be better for you to buy the LX or perhaps the EX if you don't want bigger wheels and a spoiler?
saitamahonda
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Re: Accord 'Sport' - Love the 'dual exhaust' and others features [View News Item]    (Score: 1, Normal) 07-16-2012 19:55
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From my understanding, there is always a function to Honda's forms. A lip spoiler even has, to some degree, aerodynamic effects. A wing spoiler much more so. (Think Integra Type-R)

18in wheels do perform differently from 17in wheels. Shorter tire-wall and firmer stance change both road feel and suspension response, question being if whether or not the 18in wheels take on a wider tread (which is probably unlikely). Even a .5inch increase in wheel width makes a slight difference performance wise.
There are of course some negatives to increasing the diameter, which is usually ride comfort. In this case, the sport likely has a "tuned" suspension to account for this. If not, I wouldn't be surprised to hear about road noise and vibration issues from the Sport trim.

Lastly, the dual exhaust (when it is a true dual exhaust system) will increase performance and more importantly open up the range of options for aftermarket performance parts.

The sport is a very attractive package - it will be interesting to see how the paddle-shifters work with the CVT.
owequitit
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Re: Accord 'Sport' - Love the 'dual exhaust' and others features [View News Item]    (Score: 1, Normal) 07-16-2012 20:32
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ClementZ wrote:
Drum wrote:
Kinda dissapointed in the sport. The spoiler is is just a tacky add on that blocks view to the rear and 18" wheels are only for style and not practical if you hit a curb or pothole. They also weigh more (hurting performance) and replacement tires will cost a fortune.

I do really like the dual exhausts, upgraded seats and fog lights. Maybe I could swap out the wheels and trunk lid with an EX (unless the spoiler can be removed without leaving holes)

I could get the EX (I am assuming it has no spoiler ) but the sunroof takes away too much headroom.

Even the LX might work, but I sure would like the extra adjustment of the power seats - seats are what I like least on my 2007 Accord.



People like the look of larger wheels (case in point, ricers). Plus, if people buy the sport, they're probably prepared for more expensive tires. And when they say decklid spoiler, I imagine a small lip spoiler; not one of the huge ass wings you see on an F1 car for example. So any weight gain should be negligible.
The only other things that are coming on the Sport, that other trims don't have (that we've heard of so far; there has been no word on a different suspension set up) are foglights and flappy paddles (CVT only.) Wouldn't it be better for you to buy the LX or perhaps the EX if you don't want bigger wheels and a spoiler?



Why don't you define what a "ricer" is for us?

Nearly every sport sedan features larger wheels/tires for very tangible reasons. They provide sharper response, firmer handling, better turn in, and usually more outright grip (even with identical tread width) because the tire's reduced flex allows the tire to maintain a better contact patch. Larger tires are a pre-requisite to anything being billed as "sporty." Always have been, probably always will be.

Yeah, there is a styling element to it because, frankly, small 15" tires would look retarded on a large, tall and modern car that sits high off the ground relative to its counterpart from 20 years ago. Even the 17's on the current Accord look undersized. Of course, the fact that cars have gained 300-500lbs on average doesn't help the smaller tire case either.

Finally, it depends on which size of 18" tire Honda fits. Larger isn't always more expensive, nor is higher performance necessarily more expensive. Case in point #1: My sister had odd sized 16" tires and wheels on her car and they were MORE expensive by about $20 a tire than my common sized 215/45-17's. Case in point #2: I just put Michelin Pilot Super Sports (Michelin's highest performance tire known for being OEM on the Ferrari 458 Italia and 599 GTO) and they were about $8 a tire less expensive than the OEM Pilot MXV4's that came with the car (even though I got a wider tread width @ 225mm vs 215mm). So if Honda, picks an 18" tire that is a common size, then price shouldn't be too much of an issue.

ClementZ
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Re: Accord 'Sport' - Love the 'dual exhaust' and others features [View News Item]    (Score: 1, Normal) 07-16-2012 20:46
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owequitit wrote:
ClementZ wrote:
Drum wrote:
Kinda dissapointed in the sport. The spoiler is is just a tacky add on that blocks view to the rear and 18" wheels are only for style and not practical if you hit a curb or pothole. They also weigh more (hurting performance) and replacement tires will cost a fortune.

I do really like the dual exhausts, upgraded seats and fog lights. Maybe I could swap out the wheels and trunk lid with an EX (unless the spoiler can be removed without leaving holes)

I could get the EX (I am assuming it has no spoiler ) but the sunroof takes away too much headroom.

Even the LX might work, but I sure would like the extra adjustment of the power seats - seats are what I like least on my 2007 Accord.



People like the look of larger wheels (case in point, ricers). Plus, if people buy the sport, they're probably prepared for more expensive tires. And when they say decklid spoiler, I imagine a small lip spoiler; not one of the huge ass wings you see on an F1 car for example. So any weight gain should be negligible.
The only other things that are coming on the Sport, that other trims don't have (that we've heard of so far; there has been no word on a different suspension set up) are foglights and flappy paddles (CVT only.) Wouldn't it be better for you to buy the LX or perhaps the EX if you don't want bigger wheels and a spoiler?



Why don't you define what a "ricer" is for us?

Nearly every sport sedan features larger wheels/tires for very tangible reasons. They provide sharper response, firmer handling, better turn in, and usually more outright grip (even with identical tread width) because the tire's reduced flex allows the tire to maintain a better contact patch. Larger tires are a pre-requisite to anything being billed as "sporty." Always have been, probably always will be.

Yeah, there is a styling element to it because, frankly, small 15" tires would look retarded on a large, tall and modern car that sits high off the ground relative to its counterpart from 20 years ago. Even the 17's on the current Accord look undersized. Of course, the fact that cars have gained 300-500lbs on average doesn't help the smaller tire case either.

Finally, it depends on which size of 18" tire Honda fits. Larger isn't always more expensive, nor is higher performance necessarily more expensive. Case in point #1: My sister had odd sized 16" tires and wheels on her car and they were MORE expensive by about $20 a tire than my common sized 215/45-17's. Case in point #2: I just put Michelin Pilot Super Sports (Michelin's highest performance tire known for being OEM on the Ferrari 458 Italia and 599 GTO) and they were about $8 a tire less expensive than the OEM Pilot MXV4's that came with the car (even though I got a wider tread width @ 225mm vs 215mm). So if Honda, picks an 18" tire that is a common size, then price shouldn't be too much of an issue.




My ricer comment was in reference to people around here you slam old Civics, install fartcans, and have them sit on 20" wheels.
And why didn't you quote the guy who made the point of 18" wheels costing a fortune? lol.
I still have 16s on my 2005 Accord, so I wouldn't know if upsizing would break the bank for me or not. My point was, even if it did, the customers who opt for the Sport-sized wheels are probably aware of any extra cost (if any) that is involved with the purchase.
owequitit
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Re: Accord 'Sport' - Love the 'dual exhaust' and others features [View News Item]    (Score: 1, Normal) 07-16-2012 20:49
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ClementZ wrote:
owequitit wrote:
ClementZ wrote:
Drum wrote:
Kinda dissapointed in the sport. The spoiler is is just a tacky add on that blocks view to the rear and 18" wheels are only for style and not practical if you hit a curb or pothole. They also weigh more (hurting performance) and replacement tires will cost a fortune.

I do really like the dual exhausts, upgraded seats and fog lights. Maybe I could swap out the wheels and trunk lid with an EX (unless the spoiler can be removed without leaving holes)

I could get the EX (I am assuming it has no spoiler ) but the sunroof takes away too much headroom.

Even the LX might work, but I sure would like the extra adjustment of the power seats - seats are what I like least on my 2007 Accord.



People like the look of larger wheels (case in point, ricers). Plus, if people buy the sport, they're probably prepared for more expensive tires. And when they say decklid spoiler, I imagine a small lip spoiler; not one of the huge ass wings you see on an F1 car for example. So any weight gain should be negligible.
The only other things that are coming on the Sport, that other trims don't have (that we've heard of so far; there has been no word on a different suspension set up) are foglights and flappy paddles (CVT only.) Wouldn't it be better for you to buy the LX or perhaps the EX if you don't want bigger wheels and a spoiler?



Why don't you define what a "ricer" is for us?

Nearly every sport sedan features larger wheels/tires for very tangible reasons. They provide sharper response, firmer handling, better turn in, and usually more outright grip (even with identical tread width) because the tire's reduced flex allows the tire to maintain a better contact patch. Larger tires are a pre-requisite to anything being billed as "sporty." Always have been, probably always will be.

Yeah, there is a styling element to it because, frankly, small 15" tires would look retarded on a large, tall and modern car that sits high off the ground relative to its counterpart from 20 years ago. Even the 17's on the current Accord look undersized. Of course, the fact that cars have gained 300-500lbs on average doesn't help the smaller tire case either.

Finally, it depends on which size of 18" tire Honda fits. Larger isn't always more expensive, nor is higher performance necessarily more expensive. Case in point #1: My sister had odd sized 16" tires and wheels on her car and they were MORE expensive by about $20 a tire than my common sized 215/45-17's. Case in point #2: I just put Michelin Pilot Super Sports (Michelin's highest performance tire known for being OEM on the Ferrari 458 Italia and 599 GTO) and they were about $8 a tire less expensive than the OEM Pilot MXV4's that came with the car (even though I got a wider tread width @ 225mm vs 215mm). So if Honda, picks an 18" tire that is a common size, then price shouldn't be too much of an issue.




My ricer comment was in reference to people around here you slam old Civics, install fartcans, and have them sit on 20" wheels.
And why didn't you quote the guy who made the point of 18" wheels costing a fortune? lol.
I still have 16s on my 2005 Accord, so I wouldn't know if upsizing would break the bank for me or not. My point was, even if it did, the customers who opt for the Sport-sized wheels are probably aware of any extra cost (if any) that is involved with the purchase.



So you mean like me who has a 1990 Accord that is lowered on suspension, has an engine swap, and larger 17" wheels and tires?

I quoted you because it was easier to quote 1 than 2.
ClementZ
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Re: Accord 'Sport' - Love the 'dual exhaust' and others features [View News Item]    (Score: 1, Normal) 07-16-2012 20:51
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owequitit wrote:
ClementZ wrote:
owequitit wrote:
ClementZ wrote:
Drum wrote:
Kinda dissapointed in the sport. The spoiler is is just a tacky add on that blocks view to the rear and 18" wheels are only for style and not practical if you hit a curb or pothole. They also weigh more (hurting performance) and replacement tires will cost a fortune.

I do really like the dual exhausts, upgraded seats and fog lights. Maybe I could swap out the wheels and trunk lid with an EX (unless the spoiler can be removed without leaving holes)

I could get the EX (I am assuming it has no spoiler ) but the sunroof takes away too much headroom.

Even the LX might work, but I sure would like the extra adjustment of the power seats - seats are what I like least on my 2007 Accord.



People like the look of larger wheels (case in point, ricers). Plus, if people buy the sport, they're probably prepared for more expensive tires. And when they say decklid spoiler, I imagine a small lip spoiler; not one of the huge ass wings you see on an F1 car for example. So any weight gain should be negligible.
The only other things that are coming on the Sport, that other trims don't have (that we've heard of so far; there has been no word on a different suspension set up) are foglights and flappy paddles (CVT only.) Wouldn't it be better for you to buy the LX or perhaps the EX if you don't want bigger wheels and a spoiler?



Why don't you define what a "ricer" is for us?

Nearly every sport sedan features larger wheels/tires for very tangible reasons. They provide sharper response, firmer handling, better turn in, and usually more outright grip (even with identical tread width) because the tire's reduced flex allows the tire to maintain a better contact patch. Larger tires are a pre-requisite to anything being billed as "sporty." Always have been, probably always will be.

Yeah, there is a styling element to it because, frankly, small 15" tires would look retarded on a large, tall and modern car that sits high off the ground relative to its counterpart from 20 years ago. Even the 17's on the current Accord look undersized. Of course, the fact that cars have gained 300-500lbs on average doesn't help the smaller tire case either.

Finally, it depends on which size of 18" tire Honda fits. Larger isn't always more expensive, nor is higher performance necessarily more expensive. Case in point #1: My sister had odd sized 16" tires and wheels on her car and they were MORE expensive by about $20 a tire than my common sized 215/45-17's. Case in point #2: I just put Michelin Pilot Super Sports (Michelin's highest performance tire known for being OEM on the Ferrari 458 Italia and 599 GTO) and they were about $8 a tire less expensive than the OEM Pilot MXV4's that came with the car (even though I got a wider tread width @ 225mm vs 215mm). So if Honda, picks an 18" tire that is a common size, then price shouldn't be too much of an issue.




My ricer comment was in reference to people around here you slam old Civics, install fartcans, and have them sit on 20" wheels.
And why didn't you quote the guy who made the point of 18" wheels costing a fortune? lol.
I still have 16s on my 2005 Accord, so I wouldn't know if upsizing would break the bank for me or not. My point was, even if it did, the customers who opt for the Sport-sized wheels are probably aware of any extra cost (if any) that is involved with the purchase.



So you mean like me who has a 1990 Accord that is lowered on suspension, has an engine swap, and larger 17" wheels and tires?

I quoted you because it was easier to quote 1 than 2.



Most of the people here that I refer to as ricers don't do performance upgrades.
owequitit
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Re: Accord 'Sport' - Love the 'dual exhaust' and others features [View News Item]    (Score: 1, Normal) 07-16-2012 22:05
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ClementZ wrote:
owequitit wrote:
ClementZ wrote:
owequitit wrote:
ClementZ wrote:
Drum wrote:
Kinda dissapointed in the sport. The spoiler is is just a tacky add on that blocks view to the rear and 18" wheels are only for style and not practical if you hit a curb or pothole. They also weigh more (hurting performance) and replacement tires will cost a fortune.

I do really like the dual exhausts, upgraded seats and fog lights. Maybe I could swap out the wheels and trunk lid with an EX (unless the spoiler can be removed without leaving holes)

I could get the EX (I am assuming it has no spoiler ) but the sunroof takes away too much headroom.

Even the LX might work, but I sure would like the extra adjustment of the power seats - seats are what I like least on my 2007 Accord.



People like the look of larger wheels (case in point, ricers). Plus, if people buy the sport, they're probably prepared for more expensive tires. And when they say decklid spoiler, I imagine a small lip spoiler; not one of the huge ass wings you see on an F1 car for example. So any weight gain should be negligible.
The only other things that are coming on the Sport, that other trims don't have (that we've heard of so far; there has been no word on a different suspension set up) are foglights and flappy paddles (CVT only.) Wouldn't it be better for you to buy the LX or perhaps the EX if you don't want bigger wheels and a spoiler?



Why don't you define what a "ricer" is for us?

Nearly every sport sedan features larger wheels/tires for very tangible reasons. They provide sharper response, firmer handling, better turn in, and usually more outright grip (even with identical tread width) because the tire's reduced flex allows the tire to maintain a better contact patch. Larger tires are a pre-requisite to anything being billed as "sporty." Always have been, probably always will be.

Yeah, there is a styling element to it because, frankly, small 15" tires would look retarded on a large, tall and modern car that sits high off the ground relative to its counterpart from 20 years ago. Even the 17's on the current Accord look undersized. Of course, the fact that cars have gained 300-500lbs on average doesn't help the smaller tire case either.

Finally, it depends on which size of 18" tire Honda fits. Larger isn't always more expensive, nor is higher performance necessarily more expensive. Case in point #1: My sister had odd sized 16" tires and wheels on her car and they were MORE expensive by about $20 a tire than my common sized 215/45-17's. Case in point #2: I just put Michelin Pilot Super Sports (Michelin's highest performance tire known for being OEM on the Ferrari 458 Italia and 599 GTO) and they were about $8 a tire less expensive than the OEM Pilot MXV4's that came with the car (even though I got a wider tread width @ 225mm vs 215mm). So if Honda, picks an 18" tire that is a common size, then price shouldn't be too much of an issue.




My ricer comment was in reference to people around here you slam old Civics, install fartcans, and have them sit on 20" wheels.
And why didn't you quote the guy who made the point of 18" wheels costing a fortune? lol.
I still have 16s on my 2005 Accord, so I wouldn't know if upsizing would break the bank for me or not. My point was, even if it did, the customers who opt for the Sport-sized wheels are probably aware of any extra cost (if any) that is involved with the purchase.



So you mean like me who has a 1990 Accord that is lowered on suspension, has an engine swap, and larger 17" wheels and tires?

I quoted you because it was easier to quote 1 than 2.



Most of the people here that I refer to as ricers don't do performance upgrades.



Probably should refrain from the use of it in the context of this site then, because there is virtually nobody on this forum that just puts big chrome 20's on their cars. There are virtually two groups, those who have serious performance modifications done, or just drive bone stock Hondas. I get what you are saying, but with the recent influx of "boy racer" and "ricer" comments in an attempt by the liberal left environmental posters to discredit anything we say, that has been all the rage; hence my question. Although, please note, it wasn't necessarily an implication that you were one of those people. Just a question.

That said, the "harsher" sport setup is probably a great idea as evidenced by Camry SE sales, and the fact that even my dad (nearly 60) still likes his Accords to be "involving" to drive. Plus, IMO, the 18's provided by this package and the V6 models go a long way to fix the "lost in the fender" look of the current wheels. The fact that they seem to have more offset helps that tremendously too.
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When I mod my cars, you won't know it outside of different wheels. No stickers, no bullshit, just HP to the ground. Are you really going to impress someone because you threw a K&N sticker in the window and a huge muffler tip? Nope, you just look stupid.

Trust me, modders can't all be lumped in to that lovely "ricer" term, because I hate that shit just as much as the next guy.
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Will the dual exhaust do anything for the performance? My guess it'll be just a split and thus cosmetic.

Knowing Honda, I don't think the Sport will have anything different suspension wise. Probably no HP increase either.

Lastly, will they slap on the same old Michelin highway all season passenger tires?

Hope Honda proves me wrong.

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MasterOfDaDomain wrote:
Will the dual exhaust do anything for the performance? My guess it'll be just a split and thus cosmetic.

Knowing Honda, I don't think the Sport will have anything different suspension wise. Probably no HP increase either.

Lastly, will they slap on the same old Michelin highway all season passenger tires?

Hope Honda proves me wrong.




I can see stiffer suspension setup, and that's about it. The Sport model is an answer for those who think the Accord looks too civilized and doesn't drive like a Honda anymore.
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Hondarulez wrote:
MasterOfDaDomain wrote:
Will the dual exhaust do anything for the performance? My guess it'll be just a split and thus cosmetic.

Knowing Honda, I don't think the Sport will have anything different suspension wise. Probably no HP increase either.

Lastly, will they slap on the same old Michelin highway all season passenger tires?

Hope Honda proves me wrong.




I can see stiffer suspension setup, and that's about it. The Sport model is an answer for those who think the Accord looks too civilized and doesn't drive like a Honda anymore.



I could see a front shock tower bar for better handling. (Do the LX versions have them yet??) Also, it would be great if the Sport came with something other than the same-old Michelins for better grip so that the reviewers would have to write "the tires gave out before the suspension" when they test the Accord's handling.
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98EX4cyl wrote:
Hondarulez wrote:
MasterOfDaDomain wrote:
Will the dual exhaust do anything for the performance? My guess it'll be just a split and thus cosmetic.

Knowing Honda, I don't think the Sport will have anything different suspension wise. Probably no HP increase either.

Lastly, will they slap on the same old Michelin highway all season passenger tires?

Hope Honda proves me wrong.




I can see stiffer suspension setup, and that's about it. The Sport model is an answer for those who think the Accord looks too civilized and doesn't drive like a Honda anymore.



I could see a front shock tower bar for better handling. (Do the LX versions have them yet??)



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