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Re: Sportcars are back! (FR-S & BR-Z) What is Honda's answer?    (Score: 1, Normal) 07-12-2012 04:12
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Chocs wrote:
dampflok wrote:
owequitit wrote:
As for Audi, I am not saying they are anywhere near perfect. But I choose them specifically because their core strategy of working with a dynamically disadvantaged setup has actually worked out.
Actually, the case for Honda/Acura is even worse than that. The engine-ahead-of-front-axle, longitudinal layout chosen by Audi enabled the implementation of the original quattro system. So while the layout had (and has) dynamic drawbacks, it also enabled dynamic advantages. By going transverse for Acura, Honda didn't have any such justification. It was pure cheapness.


In the case of RLX, Acura might want to maximize interior space with its use of transverse layout. That's a justification-- but maybe not one we're satisfied with.

And while Audi required the longitudinal layout to implement their quattro system, Acura should be able to implement their eSH-AWD regardless of engine layout due to the independent electric motors. Design flexibility is a sure sign of engineering prowess, ain't it?



It's quite clear Acura's model is not Audi, it's Volvo!

The use of inline 5s & 6s instead of bent ones mean that Volvo can keep the front overhangs under control.

The Chinese like Volvos, even if the US has fallen out with them.

ILX > S40 (I cannot remember who pointed that out, but it's very apt!)

T X > S60

RLX > S80

Suddenly, the C30 and the C70 make the Volvo range look terribly sporty. How did that happen?

Acura's run by fruitcakes. I'm off to IKEA to buy a Bento box.




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