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Re: Does Earth Dreams acheive 2016 EPA requirements    (Score: 1, Normal) 07-05-2012 22:44
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P54 wrote:
JimmyEats wrote:
Will the E.D. engines and transmissions implemented across Honda's lineup achieve the EPA's 2016 fuel economy requirement? Isn't that a fleet average of 35.5 combined mpg?

Or will Honda have to do something more for its non-hybrid cars?



The ED engines are intended to meet today's and future requirements. As they come today they are the base for future, they are designed so changes can be implemented as required later. They did not pull all the stops with the initial ED engines, however the basic layout today will be the base from which they can improve upon later, as required.

What about the Obama FE of 54.5 mpg by 2025? Maybe we will see the 2 and 3 cyl. engines used in Europe or Kei cars will come to USA? Maybe Fiat's 0.8L 2 cyl.engine will find its way to Chrysler?

Will the day come when the average motorcycle have bigger more powerful engines than the average car?

The biggest problem with future mpg requirements is the change to small turbo engines. They will easily meet EPA, however in real use if you want to tap into the power they will just laugh at those EPA numbers.



Yeah, with Obama FE only BMW and the good automakers will survive. They are already now producing super fast powerful diesel engines that do MPG way way way above ED petrol spec.

I do however believe that the 1.6Diesel ED will be tuned to meet "Obama spec".

My 333hp S4 engine won't survive but I can move to a super powerful Honda electric in 2016, electric is good if it can keep up with other quick cars... I'd like the sci-fi sounds from the speakers :)




Actually the diesels have absolutely no future in the US. It's not because of high FE or GHG emissions... rather... it's smog output.

Many petrol engines are already PZEV, or already have a a PZEV version. The very best diesel engines are simply midding in this regard, and it's only going to get worse.

http://www.driveclean.ca.gov/searchresults_by_tech.php?tech=45
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07-04-2012 13:08
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JimmyEats
07-04-2012 13:45
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P54
07-05-2012 09:02
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bkr
07-05-2012 13:33
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JimmyEats
07-05-2012 14:26
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DrWhiner
07-05-2012 14:59
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TonyEX
07-05-2012 16:45
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MarkR
07-05-2012 22:44
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CarPhreakD
07-06-2012 02:06
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Fan Koni
07-06-2012 04:09
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07-06-2012 12:00
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07-09-2012 23:28
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CarPhreakD
07-10-2012 14:07
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MarkR
07-10-2012 21:16
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CarPhreakD
07-11-2012 00:22
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07-14-2012 00:34
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07-15-2012 19:55
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