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danielgr
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24 years later, Honda aims to '13 Dakar title with new prototype    (Score: 1, Normal) 07-03-2012 09:47
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July 2, 2012 - Honda has announced its intention to participate as a works team in the motorcycle class in the Dakar Rally to be held in January 2013 in South America, travelling north to south through Peru, Chile and Argentina. Honda competed nine times in the motorcycle class in the forerunner of the present Dakar Rally, the Paris-Dakar Rally, from 1981 through to 1989, and was a winner five times during that period. Honda's return to Dakar Rally next year will be the first in 24 years since 1989.


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K25
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Re: 24 years later, Honda aims to '13 Dakar title with new prototype    (Score: 1, Normal) 07-05-2012 19:26
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Another Honda racing effort?

It seems like Honda is joining every motorsports series except the one they really need to win - and the pinnacle of motor racing - Formula 1.

With the new rule changes taking effect next year, including a new type of 'green' engine, one would expect some noise from Honda by now if they were to return in 2013. :(

Honda... your fans want you to finnish the business you started and win the F1 championship!!!
Wasn't that one of Soichiro's biggest dreams?
IntegraDC5R
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Re: 24 years later, Honda aims to '13 Dakar title with new prototype    (Score: 1, Normal) 07-05-2012 20:32
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K25 wrote:
Another Honda racing effort?

It seems like Honda is joining every motorsports series except the one they really need to win - and the pinnacle of motor racing - Formula 1.

With the new rule changes taking effect next year, including a new type of 'green' engine, one would expect some noise from Honda by now if they were to return in 2013. :(

Honda... your fans want you to finnish the business you started and win the F1 championship!!!
Wasn't that one of Soichiro's biggest dreams?



New engine rules don't happen till 2014 and that is still a maybe I believe. They are still hashing everything out and the deadline passed on rules for next year so essentially this year's rules are next year's rules.

I'm pining for them to make their way back as well. With the new 1.6l turbo rules, it just screams out for a rejoice of late 80's Honda dominance. Granted the field would be much tougher now and it wouldn't be a walk in the park as it was previously, but I'm sure the engineers inside the walls of Honda would love to take a dive into it. It may just be the thing that really awakens the spirit of Honda (I personally don't think it has fallen asleep). When you think about it for a moment, so many here are clamoring for the Honda of old which in reality was from the time when they were killing it in F1.
CafeDelMar90
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Re: 24 years later, Honda aims to '13 Dakar title with new prototype    (Score: 1, Normal) 07-05-2012 20:42
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Bring it on! love the recent hike in Honda motorsport!!

I kinda think that Honda would love to dabble in F1 given the new engine change in 2014. I hope so anyway, but would rather them being a engine supplier than a full works team. Mclaren - Honda anyone?

And also rumours has it that a official Honda LMp1 Hybrid effort could be on the cards next year!
Fan Koni
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Re: 24 years later, Honda aims to '13 Dakar title with new prototype    (Score: 1, Normal) 07-05-2012 21:04
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Oh, from the titel my first thought was a mad MDX...
giving the continuing noise about the MDX going to Europe.

F1 has turned boring for me - constant fights on rules & finance. I think the money teams just want to postpone decisions so that no other brand can really plan for the major investment needed to get in.
IntegraDC5R
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Re: 24 years later, Honda aims to '13 Dakar title with new prototype    (Score: 1, Normal) 07-06-2012 02:27
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Fan Koni wrote:
Oh, from the titel my first thought was a mad MDX...
giving the continuing noise about the MDX going to Europe.

F1 has turned boring for me - constant fights on rules & finance. I think the money teams just want to postpone decisions so that no other brand can really plan for the major investment needed to get in.



I don't think it is that really, even the teams with money realize that costs have to be cut, but such is the nature of F1, those same teams don't have much faith in the others to actually not overspend whatever the budget imposed on them would be. It's one thing to lose on a level playing field (excluding the smaller teams that occupy the back of the grid), but to lose because another team has cheated the system just sucks and nobody really wants to lose in that fashion. And this season, in F1, is anything but boring, in my opinion. First 7 races yielded 7 different winners, how is that not exciting? I'll give you that without Honda it doesn't have as much to offer for those Honda enthusiasts and I miss seeing Powered by Honda emblazoned on a car somewhere, but I still love circuit racing and will continue to follow F1.
musicmanvin
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Re: 24 years later, Honda aims to '13 Dakar title with new prototype    (Score: 1, Normal) 07-06-2012 15:23
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Knowing F1, I bet Honda doesn't want to risk dumping millions into a competitive F1 engine just so the FIA can change it's mind about the specs after a single season lol.
hiropon
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Re: 24 years later, Honda aims to '13 Dakar title with new prototype    (Score: 1, Normal) 07-06-2012 20:02
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yeah i think its a money issue too. Hpd and most of Honda's other racing endeavors finance themselves through selling customer packages etc. eg JAS and to some extent HRC. F1 needs huge investment from Honda Motors plus having to employ 400 odd permanent staff. Hopefully they'll in the future do engine supply but with the 2014 rules being much closer to indy who knows. Right now they have a good balance road derived race engine and full race V8 that they can run in various series globally to develop. Indy already has a full on racing v6 turbo so i doubt they do another one just for F1, but it'd sure be nice.
 
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