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Stumbled across this, http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/2012/07/review-from-the-backseat-king-of-the-kei-cars-the-honda-nbox-japanese-spec/ not entirely serious review of the N BOX in Tokyo.
Time to assess my backseat environment. It is amazingly roomy. Legroom is better than in some business class seats. I could easily put another person on my lap, and if she is not too fat (unlikely in Japan), we would not even impact the front seat while communicating.
“Move your seat all the way back,” I order my driver.
“I have,” answers driver Martin from the front.
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CVCC1974
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This is why the American Automotive Policy Council (AAPC), which represents Ford, Chrysler, and GM, hates, despises, loathes Kei cars as another trick by the insidious Japanese to keep the poor persecuted American cars out of Japan.
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LOL... funny review. Thanks for sharing.
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Chocs
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| Should the NBOX ever be federalized, then only with a decal saying “The legs in your mirror may be longer than they appear.” |
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Give it K24, 6MT, SHAWD and P-zero tires and I will buy 5 of thoses...
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FiSH-Chan
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Chocs wrote:
Hahahah... those mirrors look really useful. |
Really amazing. I am having trouble understanding how the mirrors work
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Midi_Amp
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FiSH-Chan wrote:
Chocs wrote:
Hahahah... those mirrors look really useful. |
Really amazing. I am having trouble understanding how the mirrors work
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Lucky my old driver instructor used to be a truck driver so I know a thing or two... The mirrors actually placed strategically to see straight down from the passenger's sideview mirror and to see straight down the rear bumper. It's for maneuvering in tight spaces. For Keii cars, I'm imagining Nobita's house with that tight alley and you still need to park near the ditch for other passing cars. The mirrors helps a ton on this situation.
It's the simplest alternative to automatic tilting passenger sideview mirror and rear view cameras (with all the funny angles and view modes).
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FiSH-Chan
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Midi_Amp wrote:
Lucky my old driver instructor used to be a truck driver so I know a thing or two... The mirrors actually placed strategically to see straight down from the passenger's sideview mirror and to see straight down the rear bumper. It's for maneuvering in tight spaces. For Keii cars, I'm imagining Nobita's house with that tight alley and you still need to park near the ditch for other passing cars. The mirrors helps a ton on this situation. |
That rear mirror I can understand, since that is everywhere on MPV and SUVs trucks etc.. (I too sometimes ride with truck drivers on highland timber roads... those guys are amazing they can drive without the using the clutch the whole way.. only needed it for reverse) but the one showing straight down to the wheel I have a little bit of trouble imagining how it works. Beause in the picture, it looks like it is on the INSIDE of the car rather than outside. Something about the periscope technology helps me understand it a little better but it's still amazes me.
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FiSH-Chan
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Midi_Amp wrote:
Lucky my old driver instructor used to be a truck driver so I know a thing or two... The mirrors actually placed strategically to see straight down from the passenger's sideview mirror and to see straight down the rear bumper. It's for maneuvering in tight spaces. For Keii cars, I'm imagining Nobita's house with that tight alley and you still need to park near the ditch for other passing cars. The mirrors helps a ton on this situation. |
That rear mirror I can understand, since that is everywhere on MPV and SUVs trucks etc.. (I too sometimes ride with truck drivers on highland timber roads in my old job... those guys are amazing they can drive without the using the clutch the whole way.. only needed it for reverse) but the one showing straight down to the wheel I have a little bit of trouble imagining how it works. Beause in the picture, it looks like it is on the INSIDE of the car rather than outside. Something about the periscope technology helps me understand it a little better but it's still amazes me.
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Midi_Amp
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FiSH-Chan wrote:
Midi_Amp wrote:
Lucky my old driver instructor used to be a truck driver so I know a thing or two... The mirrors actually placed strategically to see straight down from the passenger's sideview mirror and to see straight down the rear bumper. It's for maneuvering in tight spaces. For Keii cars, I'm imagining Nobita's house with that tight alley and you still need to park near the ditch for other passing cars. The mirrors helps a ton on this situation. |
That rear mirror I can understand, since that is everywhere on MPV and SUVs trucks etc.. (I too sometimes ride with truck drivers on highland timber roads... those guys are amazing they can drive without the using the clutch the whole way.. only needed it for reverse) but the one showing straight down to the wheel I have a little bit of trouble imagining how it works. Beause in the picture, it looks like it is on the INSIDE of the car rather than outside. Something about the periscope technology helps me understand it a little better but it's still amazes me.
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There's actually two mirrors, one on the inside (on the article) and one on the frontside of the sideview mirror. The angle of the top inside mirror sees straight down while the bottom inside mirror sees the blankspot of the front left tire. It's very useful... Well to be frank, you can just take your head out and see out yourself...
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Chocs
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Midi_Amp wrote:
FiSH-Chan wrote:
Midi_Amp wrote:
Lucky my old driver instructor used to be a truck driver so I know a thing or two... The mirrors actually placed strategically to see straight down from the passenger's sideview mirror and to see straight down the rear bumper. It's for maneuvering in tight spaces. For Keii cars, I'm imagining Nobita's house with that tight alley and you still need to park near the ditch for other passing cars. The mirrors helps a ton on this situation. |
That rear mirror I can understand, since that is everywhere on MPV and SUVs trucks etc.. (I too sometimes ride with truck drivers on highland timber roads... those guys are amazing they can drive without the using the clutch the whole way.. only needed it for reverse) but the one showing straight down to the wheel I have a little bit of trouble imagining how it works. Beause in the picture, it looks like it is on the INSIDE of the car rather than outside. Something about the periscope technology helps me understand it a little better but it's still amazes me.
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There's actually two mirrors, one on the inside (on the article) and one on the frontside of the sideview mirror. The angle of the top inside mirror sees straight down while the bottom inside mirror sees the blankspot of the front left tire. It's very useful... Well to be frank, you can just take your head out and see out yourself...
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Reflects your vision towards this mirror< outside
Which reflects it to the front tires, like a 'N' or 'Z' path.
Great for tight streets like in Indonesia.
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P54
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More news here:
http://world.honda.com/news/2012/4120705N-BOX-plus/index.html
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FiSH-Chan
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Oh now I get it. Yeah Didn't really zoom in the pic. Really thought they did some magic periscope thing... Now that I have a chanc e to look at it on a proper monitor.. :). Thanks for explaining
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JeffX
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Chocs wrote:
Midi_Amp wrote:
FiSH-Chan wrote:
Midi_Amp wrote:
Lucky my old driver instructor used to be a truck driver so I know a thing or two... The mirrors actually placed strategically to see straight down from the passenger's sideview mirror and to see straight down the rear bumper. It's for maneuvering in tight spaces. For Keii cars, I'm imagining Nobita's house with that tight alley and you still need to park near the ditch for other passing cars. The mirrors helps a ton on this situation. |
That rear mirror I can understand, since that is everywhere on MPV and SUVs trucks etc.. (I too sometimes ride with truck drivers on highland timber roads... those guys are amazing they can drive without the using the clutch the whole way.. only needed it for reverse) but the one showing straight down to the wheel I have a little bit of trouble imagining how it works. Beause in the picture, it looks like it is on the INSIDE of the car rather than outside. Something about the periscope technology helps me understand it a little better but it's still amazes me.
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There's actually two mirrors, one on the inside (on the article) and one on the frontside of the sideview mirror. The angle of the top inside mirror sees straight down while the bottom inside mirror sees the blankspot of the front left tire. It's very useful... Well to be frank, you can just take your head out and see out yourself...
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Reflects your vision towards this mirror< outside
Which reflects it to the front tires, like a 'N' or 'Z' path.
Great for tight streets like in Indonesia.
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I drove the N box last November/December in Japan and have some photos showing these mirrors in action. Unfortunately I put them on a hard drive that has since failed. I am in the process of trying to recover the hard drive - it was the logic board that failed - all the data should be safe but the replacement board I received is not working properly so I'm getting a little bit worried.
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danielgr
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CVCC1974 wrote:
This is why the American Automotive Policy Council (AAPC), which represents Ford, Chrysler, and GM, hates, despises, loathes Kei cars as another trick by the insidious Japanese to keep the poor persecuted American cars out of Japan.
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LOL... funny review. Thanks for sharing.
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That said, I do agree with the AAPC into that the rationale behind the original regulations doesn't make much sense nowadays. Kei's were supposed to get special treatment because they used less gasoline, less resources, and were smaller. Yet nowadays most compact cars get better fuel economy than most keis, specially the hybrids.
Personally, living in Japan I'd like for the government to review their stand, would welcome any special regs aimed at eco-friendly and space-saver cars, but can't see why there has to be a limit on engine capacity for example. Can't see why I have to pay so much taxes and stuff on my CR-Z when it has way better FE than most keis while being smaller than many of them (in volume).
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bigblue
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Awesome, you can Mugen an NBOX up too. Obviously aero is important on such a car :-)
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They can keep that in Japan too.
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LOL, whats so aerodynamic about it?
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Chocs
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There's only so much you can do with a box, I suppose.
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bigblue
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> They can keep that in Japan too.
Yes this one also doesn't have an LSD or IRS or an 8k rev-limit, sorry.
> LOL, whats so aerodynamic about it?
As far as I can see, not much :-)
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P54
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Anything can be aerodynamically improved, even a semi truck.
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S600=Dream
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I want to see the reviews for the other N car.
What is it...the N-One?
That little guy looks rad!
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