Mike Freitas
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Looking at the pictures, it looks like a clay model inside the design studio. Glass? dark enough to think maybe it is not glass, just does not look like a production type of vehicle. I really think it will be much better than we see here, Acura cannot possibly screw this model up again.
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NealX
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Not clay, but a solid rendering created by the final cad model.
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DCR
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The CR-V patent shots are exactly like the production vehicle (euro model).
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montechester
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Neal wrote:
Not clay, but a solid rendering created by the final cad model.
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And as such, don't you agree that the perspective is quite skewed? Especially the full side views where you can clearly see the full Acura emblem and backing plate, when you know you do not see that when viewing a REAL car from that angle. It has the effect of making both from and rear overhangs look longer, and deforms the profile shape in general. I hate to state this in the other threads for fear of stirring up even more negative comments. I just don't get how people think these are photographs of an actaul car. They don't look like photographs to me at all. Oh well.
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montechester
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OK Neal, what is your "much more educated than I" opinion? And Yes, I mean that sincerely! When it comes to graphic design, I consider you an EXPERT.
Here is my best effort at showing what I see as exaggerated overhangs due to the difference in perspective between a CAD model representation and a REAL car or even a photo of a real car. I lined up the greenhouse body seams the best I could while maintaining perspective of the originally posted images. As you can see, there are quite a few issues with the body lining up but the extra front overhang of the profile view, compared to the overhead view is obvious. You may be able to explain this better than I, but due to the width of the car being much greater than the height/thickness of the body at the front and rear of the car, the stretching of the image is more pronounced in profile.
The only other way I can think to explain it is if you have seen a folded paper model of a car laid out flat. While flattened, the perspective is skewed greatly until you fold it into a 3D representation of the car.
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NealX
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Even though you lined up the hard points (thanks!) the strange effect of the side view is that it is devoid of any perspective.
Imagine you're standing about 20 feet away from the center-side of the car. You are at the focal point of your "viewing cone" that extends outward to strike the outermost points of the front and rear, but you can only see what's within the viewing angle of your cone (of which you are at the point of convergence). So that makes this a non-real world view because it lacks your cone of perspective.
That said, in no way is the true or actual front and rear overhangs exaggerated. It's still there. Their actual linear measurement is unchanged.
If you moved forward or rearward - perhaps in line with either hub, what was concealed from your original vantage point would be revealed - presenting you with the true front or rear overhangs. As you side-step to the front you'd see that true front overhang and less of the rear. And as you side-step to the rear you'd see that true rear overhang and less of the front.
What's unusual about this side rendering is that it presents both front and rear hub-centric views at the same time - a composite view.
Acura is decidedly aware of this design issue (the FF-effect) and either retouches images (like the original (blue) ILX concept gallery) or photographs their vehicles from a POV to hide it and make the cars appear to have that "Golden Ratio" of an FR-car (re: Flagship Luxury) Jeff mentioned that he feels the RLX is sorely missing.
That's the best I can do with words and not a sketch pad... ;-)
Last edited by NealX on 06-21-2012 23:47
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montechester
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You explained exactly what I was attempting to, but hopefully in terms most will understand. I do stand by the statement, that lacking perspective, both the front and rear of the car appear stretched because you could never "look" at a car in the real world from the vantage point shopwn in these flat CAD models. In other words, people, wait for photos of a REAL car, or better yet, wait until you SEE a real car inperson before going off on a rant about overhangs. What you see here as a whole car profile, would NEVER be seen in the real world. Just like the CRZ nose looked long in some photo angles, the real car looks MUCH better in person.
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DavidJ
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No matter what you do, the architecture dictates big front overhangs. The only way to fix it is to change the platform.
Somehow Audi's designers make it look less awkward. But their "Flagship Luxury" also has the same issues.
Still, it's a bit self-defeating to justify not having a custom platform for your luxury division on the fact that there's another brand that doesn't have a FR platform either.
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Waldo
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That side view is like an engineering drawing, but with the solid details filled in. There is no eyeball point of view, so it looks strange because you will never see the car look like that.
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