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There are two different Accords in this picture set. The masking around the tail lights reveals this.
I wonder if they are both the same model?
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TheGandalf
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There is a i4 model (with 16in wheels) and a V6 with 17in wheels and dual exhausts
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BalIermd
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There are pics over at Motor Trend that show two additional things... There appears to be a camera in the lower grill / passenger side and 2nd, the Accord V6 will have rectangular fog lights.... This is interesting, why the camera up front? Is this just for testing purposes? Hmmmm
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BalIermd
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Also looks like the V6 model will get LED tail light treatment along with hybrid plug in!!!!
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TheGandalf
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Maybe we are seeing way more than 2 cars then...
The camera could be for an Active Cruise control, but it could also be there just for testing purposes. I don;t think it is the lane departure warning camera as I understand these need to be mounted higher to improve their view of the road.
Unfortunately the V6 doesn't seem to share the shark tail antena of the plug in...
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Chriss92
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As you can see EX and above get the LED Daytime Running Lights. Or all the Accords.
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according2kev
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Chriss92 wrote:
As you can see EX and above get the LED Daytime Running Lights. Or all the Accords.
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Considering the ILX and RDX don't offer LED DRLs, I didn't think Honda would offer them on the Accord. In the second picture, the bottom portion of the light does look like it's illuminated by LEDs as you mentioned. I wonder if it's just a reflection from the sun?
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Chriss92
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according2kev wrote:
Chriss92 wrote:
As you can see EX and above get the LED Daytime Running Lights. Or all the Accords.
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Considering the ILX and RDX don't offer LED DRLs, I didn't think Honda would offer them on the Accord. In the second picture, the bottom portion of the light does look like it's illuminated by LEDs as you mentioned. I wonder if it's just a reflection from the sun?
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I mean you can tell it is, is in possible that the sun is doing that. In the first picture you can see that that's a line of LED's under the headlights. So the Accord is basically offering them.
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BalIermd
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according2kev wrote:
Chriss92 wrote:
As you can see EX and above get the LED Daytime Running Lights. Or all the Accords.
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Considering the ILX and RDX don't offer LED DRLs, I didn't think Honda would offer them on the Accord. In the second picture, the bottom portion of the light does look like it's illuminated by LEDs as you mentioned. I wonder if it's just a reflection from the sun?
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Could be LED, not too sure, might be turn indicators as well. Remember the TSX has never had LED taillights but the 7th generation Accord did... So it's possible...
This class has some stiff competition, maybe Honda is throwing them on the EXs and above to add extra bling... Who knows...
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Chriss92
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BalIermd wrote:
according2kev wrote:
Chriss92 wrote:
As you can see EX and above get the LED Daytime Running Lights. Or all the Accords.
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Considering the ILX and RDX don't offer LED DRLs, I didn't think Honda would offer them on the Accord. In the second picture, the bottom portion of the light does look like it's illuminated by LEDs as you mentioned. I wonder if it's just a reflection from the sun?
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Could be LED, not too sure, might be turn indicators as well. Remember the TSX has never had LED taillights but the 7th generation Accord did... So it's possible...
This class has some stiff competition, maybe Honda is throwing them on the EXs and above to add extra bling... Who knows...
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If that's turn indicators it could've look like a reflector but it doesn't, it have squares. Is obvious that it is a LED DRLs. Honda want to catch up in the competition and not mess up again.
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xBeastx
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The black camera thing is the Forward Collision Warning camera. Honda already said that the Accord will have this system (which I assume is similar to the CMBS/ACC setup on the Acura MDX, ZDX, and RL). However, they might have decided to add Adaptive Cruise Control by now...hopefully :)
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Mikeydred
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Most likely the ilx and rdx were too far along in the design pipeline and miss the led treatment. With Honda's back against the wall I wouldn't be surprised if they added led drl to give the car some added blind. You can also bet all future Acura 's will get some sort of led treatment. On a side note this accord is shaping up to be best in class. Looks to be better than the camry that already looks dated and the sonata that's overstyled. Altima looks to much like the maxima in an awkward way and optima is nice in design but I hear they handle like crap from a few people that have rented them.
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according2kev
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BalIermd wrote:
according2kev wrote:
Chriss92 wrote:
As you can see EX and above get the LED Daytime Running Lights. Or all the Accords.
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Considering the ILX and RDX don't offer LED DRLs, I didn't think Honda would offer them on the Accord. In the second picture, the bottom portion of the light does look like it's illuminated by LEDs as you mentioned. I wonder if it's just a reflection from the sun?
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Could be LED, not too sure, might be turn indicators as well. Remember the TSX has never had LED taillights but the 7th generation Accord did... So it's possible...
This class has some stiff competition, maybe Honda is throwing them on the EXs and above to add extra bling... Who knows...
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You're right that Honda will go all out on the Accord when they want to. IIRC, the Accord had dual exhausts at one time and the RL didn't.
A couple of things that could make it valid is that the cars that are in motion don't have the usual yellow DRLs and on many of the cars captured, the bottom portion of the light has been taped up.
In the link provided by Chriss92, they say that they are LEDs but I know sometimes the mags are wrong. Maybe not this time.
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TheGandalf
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To be honest I am sceptical about LED DRLs, however @according2kev makes an excellent point that none of the pictures show the cars with the DRLs on.
Either Honda is twisted and took them off to make us wonder (but they would then just let a lot of people down), or they might something under their sleeve after all.
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BalIermd
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TheGandalf wrote:
To be honest I am sceptical about LED DRLs, however @according2kev makes an excellent point that none of the pictures show the cars with the DRLs on.
Either Honda is twisted and took them off to make us wonder (but they would then just let a lot of people down), or they might something under their sleeve after all.
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Yup, according2kev does bring up a valid point about no traditional LEDs on with the cars in motion... Could be that you have an option to turn them off like in the 05-06 Camry. But one thing we can be sure of is that the V6 Accord (dual exhaust) has LED tail lights and it's not a hybrid. Could be the Touring model?
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BalIermd
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On second thought, look at this pic, at the headlights, you can see light emitting from edges the tape covering the LED DRLs... Look On the left headlight, the light is right to the lower right of the projector beam... One the right headlight, it's right under the parking indicator... THOSE ARE LED DRLs PEOPLE!!!! Now, which model is it on is the question... We know the regular models will probably have halogen DRLs based on the last spy shots with heavy camo.
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HONDA AFVM
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BalIermd wrote:
There are pics over at Motor Trend that show two additional things... There appears to be a camera in the lower grill / passenger side and 2nd, the Accord V6 will have rectangular fog lights.... This is interesting, why the camera up front? Is this just for testing purposes? Hmmmm
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You can really get a good look at the 3 waves on the hood from the bottom picture........I couldn't see that in the picture I saw last year.......Now that I see the side in the light, I can see the lines.....
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BalIermd
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BalIermd wrote:
Sorry a lot of typos... here is what I meant: On second thought, look at this pic, at the headlights, you can see bright white light emitting from the edges of the tape covering the LED DRLs... Look at the left headlight, the light is right to the lower right of the projector beam... On the right headlight, the light is emitting under the parking indicator... THOSE ARE LED DRLs PEOPLE!!!! Now, which model is it on is the question... We know the regular models will probably have halogen DRLs based on the last spy shots with heavy camo.
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HONDA AFVM
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Chriss92 wrote:
BalIermd wrote:
according2kev wrote:
Chriss92 wrote:
As you can see EX and above get the LED Daytime Running Lights. Or all the Accords.
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Considering the ILX and RDX don't offer LED DRLs, I didn't think Honda would offer them on the Accord. In the second picture, the bottom portion of the light does look like it's illuminated by LEDs as you mentioned. I wonder if it's just a reflection from the sun?
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Could be LED, not too sure, might be turn indicators as well. Remember the TSX has never had LED taillights but the 7th generation Accord did... So it's possible...
This class has some stiff competition, maybe Honda is throwing them on the EXs and above to add extra bling... Who knows...
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If that's turn indicators it could've look like a reflector but it doesn't, it have squares. Is obvious that it is a LED DRLs. Honda want to catch up in the competition and not mess up again.
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If you look at the bottom picture and in the corner of the light, you will see the said LED's lit up in the corner next to the tape.....
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Gfn8r
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TheGandalf wrote:
Maybe we are seeing way more than 2 cars then...
The camera could be for an Active Cruise control, but it could also be there just for testing purposes. I don;t think it is the lane departure warning camera as I understand these need to be mounted higher to improve their view of the road.
Unfortunately the V6 doesn't seem to share the shark tail antena of the plug in...
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^ This.
I thought that all of the lane-departure/collision-warning stuff was supposed to be camera-based with the camera mounted up around the inside mirror.
If Honda drops ACC in this car (and if it turns out that this car is REALLY as good as it's looking in these pics), I'd almost feel compelled to fly to Japan and set up an appointment with Ito himself, just to thank him personally for it! (Or at least for putting Erik Berkman where he is now.)
(Wellllll, not really, but I'd be suprised at the cajones of Honda to drop ACC/full CMBS into our Accord before dropping it into the Acura TL or TSX first. The JDM Inspire has it, but I presume that Honda's keeping our Accord sub-Acura or our litigious society precludes that for the N/A market.)
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BalIermd
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Gfn8r wrote:
TheGandalf wrote:
Maybe we are seeing way more than 2 cars then...
The camera could be for an Active Cruise control, but it could also be there just for testing purposes. I don;t think it is the lane departure warning camera as I understand these need to be mounted higher to improve their view of the road.
Unfortunately the V6 doesn't seem to share the shark tail antena of the plug in...
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^ This.
I thought that all of the lane-departure/collision-warning stuff was supposed to be camera-based with the camera mounted up around the inside mirror.
If Honda drops ACC in this car (and if it turns out that this car is REALLY as good as it's looking in these pics), I'd almost feel compelled to fly to Japan and set up an appointment with Ito himself, just to thank him personally for it! (Or at least for putting Erik Berkman where he is now.)
(Wellllll, not really, but I'd be suprised at the cajones of Honda to drop ACC/full CMBS into our Accord before dropping it into the Acura TL or TSX first. The JDM Inspire has it, but I presume that Honda's keeping our Accord sub-Acura or our litigious society precludes that for the N/A market.)
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If Honda was to do this it would no doubt be for the "mail mary" Touring model only. I can see the cost of this thing creeping up pretty close to TSX territory with all these bells and whistles. But then the TSX is likely to get the ax soon anyway so it doesn't really matter. (probably after the introduction of the TLX in 2013?)
On another note, doesn't the ACC/CMBS use radar and not cameras?
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JeffX
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I have heard via a well-connected source that LED DRLs will definitely be in some 2013 Accord models --- based upon the percentages it sounds like it will most likely be in the Touring models. It wouldn't surprise me if they end up in the PHEV Accord too.
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Gfn8r
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BalIermd wrote:
Gfn8r wrote:
TheGandalf wrote:
Maybe we are seeing way more than 2 cars then...
The camera could be for an Active Cruise control, but it could also be there just for testing purposes. I don;t think it is the lane departure warning camera as I understand these need to be mounted higher to improve their view of the road.
Unfortunately the V6 doesn't seem to share the shark tail antena of the plug in...
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^ This.
I thought that all of the lane-departure/collision-warning stuff was supposed to be camera-based with the camera mounted up around the inside mirror.
If Honda drops ACC in this car (and if it turns out that this car is REALLY as good as it's looking in these pics), I'd almost feel compelled to fly to Japan and set up an appointment with Ito himself, just to thank him personally for it! (Or at least for putting Erik Berkman where he is now.)
(Wellllll, not really, but I'd be suprised at the cajones of Honda to drop ACC/full CMBS into our Accord before dropping it into the Acura TL or TSX first. The JDM Inspire has it, but I presume that Honda's keeping our Accord sub-Acura or our litigious society precludes that for the N/A market.)
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If Honda was to do this it would no doubt be for the "mail mary" Touring model only. I can see the cost of this thing creeping up pretty close to TSX territory with all these bells and whistles. But then the TSX is likely to get the ax soon anyway so it doesn't really matter. (probably after the introduction of the TLX in 2013?)
On another note, doesn't the ACC/CMBS use radar and not cameras?
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Yes, that's radar-based, but all of the Honda stuff at the Coupe Concept reveal mentioned camera-based blind-spot/collision-warning stuff. No mention of anything radar-based. Yet there's something down low on the one car--looks like a camera, could be radar-based something-or-other!
The new Fusion is supposed to have ACC someplace in their feature matrix (as well as the new Chevy Impala), so if Honda wanted to leapfrog Toyota/Hyundai/Kia, that'd be a way to do it! (Well..from comparing the 8th-Gen Accord to the new Camry back-to-back at the last auto show I attended, even the slightly porcine 8th-Gen still trumps the TOYota in several areas!)
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tsxfan19
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I'd be willing to bet the V6 car in the spy pic has some type of sensing system for the forward collision warning system right behind the rearview mirror. The mirror seems to sit too low to be connected to the windshield that high up...
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HONDA AFVM
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Jeff wrote:
I have heard via a well-connected source that LED DRLs will definitely be in some 2013 Accord models --- based upon the percentages it sounds like it will most likely be in the Touring models. It wouldn't surprise me if they end up in the PHEV Accord too.
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My understanding is EXL and above will have LED's and touring and PHEV Accord will have "Other then" Halogen headlights.........The "Other then" was not clear from my source because they know I am posting it, but I am going to guess HID's for both PHEV and Touring Accord.......LED head lights would be a VERY long shot for a Honda.........even the PHEV Accord......but it's anyone's game.........
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lizzurd1
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TheGandalf wrote:
There is a i4 model (with 16in wheels) and a V6 with 17in wheels and dual exhausts
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I had to do my pre-ordering for winter tires in april and the info we were given is 17 and 18 inch sizes with no 16 inch for the 2013 Accord.
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Rgist85
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I think only the Kia Optima offers LED headlamps and that's only on the $35K SX Limited trim level for My2013....no other car in the class offers LED running lamps up front...count that as an Accord advantage, if they indeed do make production. It looks to me like some models have LED running lamps and LED fog lamps. I can't wait to see this car.
I'm personally hoping the EX and up get LED daytime running lamps and LED tails...would make those trim levels unique over the LX and Sport. I think realistically the EX-L and up will get both. I'm also hoping that the Sport comes with some sort of body kit and perhaps a lip spoiler, sport suspension, sunroof, etc. etc. etc. I think the base I4 with the smaller 16 inch wheels is actually an LX, there is nothing "sport" about that particular car, so perhaps alloy wheels will be standard across the board this time?
I expect HIDs to be a Touring and Hybrid exclusive, most cars in this class that offer HIDs only do so on the very top trims. Only Altima 3.5SL, Malibu LTZ, Mazda6 Gt and Optima SX and SX-L models offer HIDs. They aren't offered at all on the Fusion or Sonata and the lowly Passat comes with no projector beams at all.
So far I'm very impressed with what I am seeing. the proportions look good, the styling looks right, I'm eager to see more of the interior and test out the materials. Handling should still be Honda-like and better than the current gen..power should be good, kinda worried about the CVT on the I4 models, but thankfully the EX will still be available with a manual...but since that model no longer exist I'd be forced to get the CVT in order to get the sat. radio...I'd go for the EX-LV6 or a Touring before I'd do the EX-L I4.
Push button start should be an EX (or maybe EX-L) and up feature as well....and I hope they expand satellite radio to more than just EX-L models this go round...I LOVE the Sat. radio in my 07 EX-L 5spd.
Lately every time something is up for a redesign from Honda I worry, but I'm excited about this new Accord.
Adaptive cruise, HIDs, etc. should be left to the Touring...it would be AWESOME if the Touring model had cooled front seats too ;)
The ILX and RDX should have already had many of the features this Accord is expected to get...Acura has been well behind the curve on content for quite some time, its the reason the Accord (and the Civic) have been equipped below much of the competition for the last generation or so...if expect this will change with the introduction of the RLX, TLX and MDX.
Also, it appears the Coupe gets turn signals (on certain trims at least) but traditional fog lamps...that's kinda strange to me, you'd think the Coupe, being the sportier of the two, would have the LED fogs.
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HONDA AFVM
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HONDA AFVM wrote:
Jeff wrote:
I have heard via a well-connected source that LED DRLs will definitely be in some 2013 Accord models --- based upon the percentages it sounds like it will most likely be in the Touring models. It wouldn't surprise me if they end up in the PHEV Accord too.
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My understanding is EXL and above will have LED's and touring and PHEV Accord will have "Other then" Halogen headlights.........The "Other then" was not clear from my source because they know I am posting it, but I am going to guess HID's for both PHEV and Touring Accord.......LED head lights would be a VERY long shot for a Honda.........even the PHEV Accord......but it's anyone's game.........
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Let me clarify.......LED DRL's....and....Halogen projectors from the EXL to the EXLV6.......then the Touring and the PHEV Acc with the "other then".........The LX, Sport and EX with current type DRL's. All Accords will get projectors.......Again, all of this is from a source, nothing is for sure.....
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rocky
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Clamshell hood by the looks of it.
Thats new.
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