BorisHonda
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The only experience with CVT I have is with my Vespa 250; and I love it and I would not have ANY other transmission on this kind of vehicle. Do not tell me it is 'fun to drive' having clutch and shifter manipulated with one hand while applying gas and brake with another one while trying to ride through angry people siting in cages. It is not!
In Honda I am interested in passenger cars only and I am not aware of any vehicle from Honda department having CVT. I might be wrong, though.
IF this is Honda's first CVT implementation for masses, will not you be worried did they do it right????
I am looking at new Altima which IS impressive according to available material and first test drives. And they have long experience with CVT...
I currently drive stick Honda but deteriorating driving environment (people running red lights, sleeping at green, texting, having sex, etc.) slowly forces me to consider something automatic.
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Potenza
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BorisHonda wrote:
In Honda I am interested in passenger cars only and I am not aware of any vehicle from Honda department having CVT. I might be wrong, though.
IF this is Honda's first CVT implementation for masses, will not you be worried did they do it right????
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In Japan and other countries, Honda has lots of experience with CVTs and has experimented with different designs, such as using a torque converter and not using a torque converter, as a small example.
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xBeastx
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BorisHonda wrote:
In Honda I am interested in passenger cars only and I am not aware of any vehicle from Honda department having CVT. I might be wrong, though.
IF this is Honda's first CVT implementation for masses, will not you be worried did they do it right???
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It is definitely not Honda's first CVT:
Honda Civic HX 1.6 L 4 cyl
Honda Civic Hybrid 1.3 L 4 cyl
Honda City 1.5 L
Honda Airwave 1.5 L
Honda HR-V 1.6 L
Honda Insight 1.0 L 3 cyl
Honda Jazz 1.3L/1.4L/1.5L / Honda Fit 1.3 L/1.5 L
Honda Odyssey (JDM)
Honda Stream
Honda Stepwagon
In addition to any of the current Hybrids, including the CR-Z.
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BorisHonda
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xAbSoLuTexZeRo wrote:
BorisHonda wrote:
In Honda I am interested in passenger cars only and I am not aware of any vehicle from Honda department having CVT. I might be wrong, though.
IF this is Honda's first CVT implementation for masses, will not you be worried did they do it right???
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It is definitely not Honda's first CVT:
Honda Civic HX 1.6 L 4 cyl
Honda Civic Hybrid 1.3 L 4 cyl
Honda City 1.5 L
Honda Airwave 1.5 L
Honda HR-V 1.6 L
Honda Insight 1.0 L 3 cyl
Honda Jazz 1.3L/1.4L/1.5L / Honda Fit 1.3 L/1.5 L
Honda Odyssey (JDM)
Honda Stream
Honda Stepwagon
In addition to any of the current Hybrids, including the CR-Z.
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Well, I do not recognize Any of these as North American cars?
As I mentioned I follow only sedans...
They might have CVT in japan or other continents but will WE here on NA island get the SAME (proven?) technology, that is the question.
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Cory
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The CVT in my 2010 Insight is smooth and has had no issues after nearly 40k miles. It's a North American market car.
The Civic hybrid has a CVT in North America.
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TXsalesguy
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BorisHonda wrote:
xAbSoLuTexZeRo wrote:
BorisHonda wrote:
In Honda I am interested in passenger cars only and I am not aware of any vehicle from Honda department having CVT. I might be wrong, though.
IF this is Honda's first CVT implementation for masses, will not you be worried did they do it right???
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It is definitely not Honda's first CVT:
Honda Civic HX 1.6 L 4 cyl
Honda Civic Hybrid 1.3 L 4 cyl
Honda City 1.5 L
Honda Airwave 1.5 L
Honda HR-V 1.6 L
Honda Insight 1.0 L 3 cyl
Honda Jazz 1.3L/1.4L/1.5L / Honda Fit 1.3 L/1.5 L
Honda Odyssey (JDM)
Honda Stream
Honda Stepwagon
In addition to any of the current Hybrids, including the CR-Z.
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Well, I do not recognize Any of these as North American cars?
As I mentioned I follow only sedans...
They might have CVT in japan or other continents but will WE here on NA island get the SAME (proven?) technology, that is the question.
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As mentioned above, all Hybrids sold in North America are CVT. The Insight is a 5 door hatch, the CR-Z is a three door hatch, so you might be overlooking those, but the Civic Hybrid is a sedan, has always had the CVT and has been available in the US for around a decade now.
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Hondarulez
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The CVT in the new Accord (and perhaps other future Honda cars with CVT) will be a new design.
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Grace141
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Well, when you add riding through angry people sitting in cages I guess motorcycles aren't much fun. To my knowledge Evel Knievel didn't even try to do that. He stuck with jumping buses, fountains and canyons.
http://evelknievel.com/
I never had any problems with riding a motorcycle in traffic. My one complaint was all of my left shoes developed the upshift badge of courage scuff.
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CVCC1974
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BorisHonda wrote:
They might have CVT in japan or other continents but will WE here on NA island get the SAME (proven?) technology, that is the question.
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All Honda Earth Dreams powertrain has been developed entirely in Japan as a global Honda development. So all continents will get the same technology for the Earth Dreams powertrain (the new CVT included), but the components may be sourced from local parts suppliers if the car is built in North America. It depends on the quality of North American suppliers when it comes to the components, and how good the QC at the manufacturing plant.
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starbai
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I gotta say the only thing that has held me back so far in terms of excitement for the new model is the CVT.
I know they promise it will have a sporty feeling but I will have to reserve that judgement till I can drive one.
I absolutely HATE the CVT that nissan puts in basically all their vehicles now. I cannot stand the way the thing doesn't feel like it ever shifts. I know they market it as something thats comfortable, but from a sporty perspective, it feels so boring its ridiculous.
If anyone can engineer a more fun feeling to this technology, its Honda... so heres for high hopes since I doubt the 6spd manual will make it to the sedan.
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BorisHonda
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With CVT you do Not feel shifting since there is NO shifting. Find how CVT works and you fill understand. On contrary, I love CVT; I do not like to feel gear changes; I like quiet and not jerky drive; I do not like when tachometer dances like broken analogue watch. Some companies had to artificially introduce 'shift feel' due to complaints that 'nothing is happening'.
But that is me. I am excited with Honda introducing CVT and now all depends how they designed dashboard. If they make the same mistake as with Civic where many indicators are duplicated between dashboard and iMID I will unfortunately look elsewhere; not to mention if they delete temp indicator and implement only dumb-driver control light for engine overheat - duh! With Civic somebody at Honda really thought that only morons buy that car...
We are all different and what I like and base my purchase you might be 180 degree opposite. If we all were to be the same it will really dull existence.
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xBeastx
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I agree with the people who say they like CVTs. While I like both types of transmissions equally, I prefer the smooth ride and fuel efficiency of a CVT. The 5-speed is really annoying because it holds the gears forever when going uphill. It's like the tranny is refusing to downshift.
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Hondarulez
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BorisHonda wrote:
With CVT you do Not feel shifting since there is NO shifting. Find how CVT works and you fill understand. On contrary, I love CVT; I do not like to feel gear changes; I like quiet and not jerky drive; I do not like when tachometer dances like broken analogue watch. Some companies had to artificially introduce 'shift feel' due to complaints that 'nothing is happening'.
But that is me. I am excited with Honda introducing CVT and now all depends how they designed dashboard. If they make the same mistake as with Civic where many indicators are duplicated between dashboard and iMID I will unfortunately look elsewhere; not to mention if they delete temp indicator and implement only dumb-driver control light for engine overheat - duh! With Civic somebody at Honda really thought that only morons buy that car...
We are all different and what I like and base my purchase you might be 180 degree opposite. If we all were to be the same it will really dull existence.
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There are CVTs that also have a mode with simulated gears. The new CVT from Honda will have a mode with 7 simulated gears so the driver can "feel" and hear the car shifting gears.
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BorisHonda
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Hondarulez wrote:
BorisHonda wrote:
With CVT you do Not feel shifting since there is NO shifting. Find how CVT works and you fill understand. On contrary, I love CVT; I do not like to feel gear changes; I like quiet and not jerky drive; I do not like when tachometer dances like broken analogue watch. Some companies had to artificially introduce 'shift feel' due to complaints that 'nothing is happening'.
But that is me. I am excited with Honda introducing CVT and now all depends how they designed dashboard. If they make the same mistake as with Civic where many indicators are duplicated between dashboard and iMID I will unfortunately look elsewhere; not to mention if they delete temp indicator and implement only dumb-driver control light for engine overheat - duh! With Civic somebody at Honda really thought that only morons buy that car...
We are all different and what I like and base my purchase you might be 180 degree opposite. If we all were to be the same it will really dull existence.
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There are CVTs that also have a mode with simulated gears. The new CVT from Honda will have a mode with 7 simulated gears so the driver can "feel" and hear the car shifting gears.
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I hope they implement 'normal' CVT for us who like smooth ride and 'sport mode' with simulated gear shifting for those who like to 'feel' the car.
On a funny side, they can put mike in engine compartment so those who like 'to hear' their cars can listen it on car stereo. And add option so you can choose how many simulated gears car have (2, 3, 4, etc,) so you REALLY feel the jerk when it shifts...
Different folks different strokes.
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