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HONDA AFVM wrote:
longhorn wrote:
HONDA AFVM wrote:
montechester wrote:
Unfortunately his misinformation seems to be spreading to other threads. I'd love to know the source of this garbage. It's so far fetched as to be laughable, but there are people that will believe it, because "they read it on the internet", so it HAS to be true. LOL
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montechester............
One COULD say that you could get a $5,000 discount off of an Accord, but that would be the Hold back, all the profit and the dealer cash...........OR, the 1.9$ from the Average rate of 6.78% would save you thousands too.......Numbers can be made to look any way one can present them............if one is stupid enough to read them that way...........
rks, rsk, rkc.......what ever his miniscule letters are is WRONG....... and when people go from Honda dealer to Honda dealer and get told to pound salt...........cause they heard it on the internet............then they will be pissed at rkc........or who ever for misinforming them...........
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One could say? ......Its true, I would post my emails from Honda Dealers but that would be in bad taste and bad business etiquette. How the dealer gets there, hold back, secrete handshake or whatever, getting 4500 to 5000 off an Accord is easy. Just be sure to go to a volume Honda dealer and voila........example-
http://www.weymouthhonda.com/lease/?&code=CP2F7CJW
Just add your email address to get the real sales price........ hint, it ain't sticker. By the way Kudos to Weymouth for demystifying the lease process.
And thats on the east coast, the same prices can be had here in Texas, and NO Texsalesguy, that doesn't include the $1500 tint and mud flap package every Dallas Honda dealer seems to be adding to their cars.
Go to Edmunds and see what people are getting on Accords-
http://townhall-talk.edmunds.com/direct/view/.ef006d2/26763
You would think its Christmas reading those posts.
The Accord will post some amazing sales numbers this month, but at these prices, you see why. If one is in the market for an Accord, now till August is the time. And if one is afraid of missing out on the new Accord, lease the present one, and in two or three years when Honda worked out all of the bugs, you can then purchase or lease the new gen due out in Oct. You can and will get an awesome deal on the present one.
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That's ALL the money, including the stair step money. They are banking on selling the quota Honda set for them, so as an example; Honda might give the dealer $1,500 if they sell 32 Accords in a month, that number depends on the dealers location, Accord sales, forecast.......they might add a % to make them move more cars, so if they reach that # of 32 then they get, RETROACTIVE from the 1st Accord sold that month $1,500 per Accord sold on top of the $1,250 customer cash. So there is $2,750 right there and there is about $2,000 ++ in every Accord, so there is your $5G's, but this is NOT advertised incentives and the amount Honda gives to dealers is not public info, if the dealer sells 31 cars, THEY LOSE BIG........there IS NO EXCUSE.......or do overs.......GAME OVER.....so many dealers don't even try......We do sometimes, we did it last month and made out big, but we didn't have the inventory this month to take the risk, nor did our zone for dealer trades, they were coming in fast, but dealers were afraid to trade in fear of not getting an accord back........
You all act as if this is a game we play, the manufacture plays games WITH US, and we have no choice but to play their game or we lose........They raised the INVOICE on us some $200 to $400 per car, but only raised the MSRP a $100 or so........we lose every time.......
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Something else I thought of, it is quite possible that they are luring people into the showroom with such deals knowing that with some high degree of certainty they are going to roll it back in on the back end of the deal...
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integrator
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So... I'm confused. After you tell that guy he's a loser and a liar, then you agree there's somewhere near that amount being taken off the price? I'm sure most people dont care if its advertised as such or not. Thats a big incentive (or price reduction, if thats a better word) to move inventory.
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Hondu
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HONDA AFVM wrote:
longhorn wrote:
HONDA AFVM wrote:
montechester wrote:
Unfortunately his misinformation seems to be spreading to other threads. I'd love to know the source of this garbage. It's so far fetched as to be laughable, but there are people that will believe it, because "they read it on the internet", so it HAS to be true. LOL
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montechester............
One COULD say that you could get a $5,000 discount off of an Accord, but that would be the Hold back, all the profit and the dealer cash...........OR, the 1.9$ from the Average rate of 6.78% would save you thousands too.......Numbers can be made to look any way one can present them............if one is stupid enough to read them that way...........
rks, rsk, rkc.......what ever his miniscule letters are is WRONG....... and when people go from Honda dealer to Honda dealer and get told to pound salt...........cause they heard it on the internet............then they will be pissed at rkc........or who ever for misinforming them...........
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One could say? ......Its true, I would post my emails from Honda Dealers but that would be in bad taste and bad business etiquette. How the dealer gets there, hold back, secrete handshake or whatever, getting 4500 to 5000 off an Accord is easy. Just be sure to go to a volume Honda dealer and voila........example-
http://www.weymouthhonda.com/lease/?&code=CP2F7CJW
Just add your email address to get the real sales price........ hint, it ain't sticker. By the way Kudos to Weymouth for demystifying the lease process.
And thats on the east coast, the same prices can be had here in Texas, and NO Texsalesguy, that doesn't include the $1500 tint and mud flap package every Dallas Honda dealer seems to be adding to their cars.
Go to Edmunds and see what people are getting on Accords-
http://townhall-talk.edmunds.com/direct/view/.ef006d2/26763
You would think its Christmas reading those posts.
The Accord will post some amazing sales numbers this month, but at these prices, you see why. If one is in the market for an Accord, now till August is the time. And if one is afraid of missing out on the new Accord, lease the present one, and in two or three years when Honda worked out all of the bugs, you can then purchase or lease the new gen due out in Oct. You can and will get an awesome deal on the present one.
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That's ALL the money, including the stair step money. They are banking on selling the quota Honda set for them, so as an example; Honda might give the dealer $1,500 if they sell 32 Accords in a month, that number depends on the dealers location, Accord sales, forecast.......they might add a % to make them move more cars, so if they reach that # of 32 then they get, RETROACTIVE from the 1st Accord sold that month $1,500 per Accord sold on top of the $1,250 customer cash. So there is $2,750 right there and there is about $2,000 ++ in every Accord, so there is your $5G's, but this is NOT advertised incentives and the amount Honda gives to dealers is not public info, if the dealer sells 31 cars, THEY LOSE BIG........there IS NO EXCUSE.......or do overs.......GAME OVER.....so many dealers don't even try......We do sometimes, we did it last month and made out big, but we didn't have the inventory this month to take the risk, nor did our zone for dealer trades, they were coming in fast, but dealers were afraid to trade in fear of not getting an accord back........
You all act as if this is a game we play, the manufacture plays games WITH US, and we have no choice but to play their game or we lose........They raised the INVOICE on us some $200 to $400 per car, but only raised the MSRP a $100 or so........we lose every time.......
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The dealer I bought my Odyssey from sent me an email last month with $4,000 off the Accord, and now this month they sent me another email, but with $5,000 off any Accord I buy. Looks like they are going for the quota...
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mobis21
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z-zero wrote:
Looks very much like the current Accord sedan. Looks like Honda has repeated the same mistake they made with the Civic... Are we going to see a refereshed 2014 Accord too???
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Don't you just hate it when car makers produce one series after another that resemble the past. Don't you just hate how when you see a Porsche 911, you know it's a 911, or a BMW 3 looks like the past BMW 3. I could go on an on about brands that we could hate on for making this same "mistake"
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HONDA AFVM
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integrator wrote:
So... I'm confused. After you tell that guy he's a loser and a liar, then you agree there's somewhere near that amount being taken off the price? I'm sure most people dont care if its advertised as such or not. Thats a big incentive (or price reduction, if thats a better word) to move inventory.
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Inter.........
He said "HONDA" was running the special. The dealers don't have to give all the money away if they don't want to and AS I SAID, it's not there if they don't meet their number which some don't......so they are rolling the dice........Bigger dealers might take the chance, some might not.........There are 1000 plus Honda dealers, they ALL have the same opportunity to do this, but you don't see all of them advertizing this do you?
It's not like FORD that they put a $3,000 rebate on the Fusion and call it a day........So, YES, he was a liar.......and a loser, JUST because I don't like his attitude.........;-)
WE are not offering this deal, NOR will we. We will not hit our number this month, we don't have the cars to do so........So what do you call it? a DEALER CHOICE or a manufacture incentive, it's a little of both........but we are STILL selling every Accord we have........almost, more then we sold in Jan, Feb and March.........
In the car business if it is not a sure thing, then it's NOTHING! and the only "sure thing" is the dealer cash of $1,250.00 the rest is a crap shoot........
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longhorn
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Thanks HondaAFVM for the explaination, much respect from me for doing so. It demystifies why some dealers are willing to make outrageouse deals and other do not or can not. It explains why Gunn Honda in San Anotonio would have hundreds of Accords parked nose to tail behind the dealership. Its all about the inventory.
The more a dealer moves or sell the more one is rewarded............Makes sense. Thanks again HondaAFVM.
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z-zero
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Hondu wrote:
HONDA AFVM wrote:
longhorn wrote:
HONDA AFVM wrote:
montechester wrote:
Unfortunately his misinformation seems to be spreading to other threads. I'd love to know the source of this garbage. It's so far fetched as to be laughable, but there are people that will believe it, because "they read it on the internet", so it HAS to be true. LOL
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montechester............
One COULD say that you could get a $5,000 discount off of an Accord, but that would be the Hold back, all the profit and the dealer cash...........OR, the 1.9$ from the Average rate of 6.78% would save you thousands too.......Numbers can be made to look any way one can present them............if one is stupid enough to read them that way...........
rks, rsk, rkc.......what ever his miniscule letters are is WRONG....... and when people go from Honda dealer to Honda dealer and get told to pound salt...........cause they heard it on the internet............then they will be pissed at rkc........or who ever for misinforming them...........
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One could say? ......Its true, I would post my emails from Honda Dealers but that would be in bad taste and bad business etiquette. How the dealer gets there, hold back, secrete handshake or whatever, getting 4500 to 5000 off an Accord is easy. Just be sure to go to a volume Honda dealer and voila........example-
http://www.weymouthhonda.com/lease/?&code=CP2F7CJW
Just add your email address to get the real sales price........ hint, it ain't sticker. By the way Kudos to Weymouth for demystifying the lease process.
And thats on the east coast, the same prices can be had here in Texas, and NO Texsalesguy, that doesn't include the $1500 tint and mud flap package every Dallas Honda dealer seems to be adding to their cars.
Go to Edmunds and see what people are getting on Accords-
http://townhall-talk.edmunds.com/direct/view/.ef006d2/26763
You would think its Christmas reading those posts.
The Accord will post some amazing sales numbers this month, but at these prices, you see why. If one is in the market for an Accord, now till August is the time. And if one is afraid of missing out on the new Accord, lease the present one, and in two or three years when Honda worked out all of the bugs, you can then purchase or lease the new gen due out in Oct. You can and will get an awesome deal on the present one.
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That's ALL the money, including the stair step money. They are banking on selling the quota Honda set for them, so as an example; Honda might give the dealer $1,500 if they sell 32 Accords in a month, that number depends on the dealers location, Accord sales, forecast.......they might add a % to make them move more cars, so if they reach that # of 32 then they get, RETROACTIVE from the 1st Accord sold that month $1,500 per Accord sold on top of the $1,250 customer cash. So there is $2,750 right there and there is about $2,000 ++ in every Accord, so there is your $5G's, but this is NOT advertised incentives and the amount Honda gives to dealers is not public info, if the dealer sells 31 cars, THEY LOSE BIG........there IS NO EXCUSE.......or do overs.......GAME OVER.....so many dealers don't even try......We do sometimes, we did it last month and made out big, but we didn't have the inventory this month to take the risk, nor did our zone for dealer trades, they were coming in fast, but dealers were afraid to trade in fear of not getting an accord back........
You all act as if this is a game we play, the manufacture plays games WITH US, and we have no choice but to play their game or we lose........They raised the INVOICE on us some $200 to $400 per car, but only raised the MSRP a $100 or so........we lose every time.......
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The dealer I bought my Odyssey from sent me an email last month with $4,000 off the Accord, and now this month they sent me another email, but with $5,000 off any Accord I buy. Looks like they are going for the quota...
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I worked at a Honda dealership the final year of the 4cyl. Odessy, and Honda was discounting the Odessy by over $7000 at the end of that vehice.... When the Mustang went from a 210hp V6 to the 205hp V6, they were taking ridiculous cash off the MSRP. So long as you don't mind being 1 model year behind the times, then that's the best time to buy.
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DrWhiner
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It's nothing new nor Honda is the only guy doing this.
From GM to Chrysler to Nissan ...
that is how some automakers have those amazing sales numbers with mediocre products. That is how their sales chief can come out and say: hey, our _xxx_ was selling just behind ____ and our new _xxx_ is going to be number one with a straight face.
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HONDA AFVM
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longhorn wrote:
Thanks HondaAFVM for the explaination, much respect from me for doing so. It demystifies why some dealers are willing to make outrageouse deals and other do not or can not. It explains why Gunn Honda in San Anotonio would have hundreds of Accords parked nose to tail behind the dealership. Its all about the inventory.
The more a dealer moves or sell the more one is rewarded............Makes sense. Thanks again HondaAFVM.
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That's not entirely true......Let me explain, we moved well beyond our forecast in April which left us shy in May, even tho we have Accords coming in, we don't know if they will all reach when they say, there is always a good chance, but CHANCE is not good enough. If our number is 81 Accords and we average 50 a month and we have 40 in stock because we sold 78 in April and May Honda wants us to sell 81, but we have 40 on the ground 1 May and 40 more on the way........we might not want to go all in with 50% inventory. In April we were heavy, we had 62 Accords and 60 coming, so we went all in, did the full amount........this month, we didn't go to the top amount, we settled for a few tiers down and we didn't get the full tilt on the incentive..........
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