P54 wrote: Carburetor engines are still used in USA and passes emissions. India do not seem to be too concerned about emission as they are encouraging the use of diesel cars/trucks.
Such a small engine, being a Honda, it will still be clean despite the use of carb. Remember India is a big country under development and lots of rural land. A cheap bike with carb. will in many instances be preferred as it is so much cheaper and easier to work on. It is appealing to the rural people, as well as having a kick start back up.
With reference to the super Cub with 260 mpg is it the 50cc or bigger engine? In India they are very concerned about FE and more than HP they look to MPG. Also they want it to be solid built, steel over plastic to endure the torturous roads in the back-country.
I'm not saying I don't understand the logic of this bike for India, actually I think it's a very good move for Honda and I'm sure that customers will love it. You also have to keep in mind that companies like Tata are selling cars around 3000USD around there, so obviously the bike makers have to get cheap as well. That doesn't mean I cannot expect "more" from Honda.
Btw, thanks for noticing, I did post the FE numbers for the 50cc SuperCub (not on purpose). The 110cc one is rated 150mpg at 60km/h (notice the speed is double from the other rating, the 110cc bikes I know get better mileage in real life than the 50cc ones).
Answering other people (feel too lazy to go one by one):
- I don't know the regulations in the US, but as I said, it's pretty difficult to get pass Euro3 (motorbikes) without fuel inyection (wonder if even possible, sure not at 900 USD).
- You guys don't forget that when talking about over a billion people small differences make a huge gap in terms of air quality. I do recognize though that provided this thing is able to substitute an old 2-stroke it'd be great, with or without PGMFI. Maybe that's the point, but I'll keep waiting until they substitute it with something even cleaner, maybe next decade !
The problem with PGM-FI is that you need fairly good quality fuel to use, or else the fuel pump will f*** up and pressurized fuel rail will gum up... not to mention the injector won't work very well.
I'm pretty sure that on a bike this small, a close coupled cat would be almost enough to meet our emissions standards. More important is whether these bikes will require constant carb tune-ups as that will most affect emissions.