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FiSH-Chan
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Steering / chassis / subframe question    (Score: 1, Normal) 05-21-2012 01:02
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I was complaining about the steering on my car a while back, saying the steering feels WORSE as the tires wear out.

Well turns out, it wasn't that problem...

I took it in for servicing recently and they did mention they retorqed and tightened the subframe or suspension parts (not sure which) and that actually solved the problem, the steering/chassis feels better overall!

So my question do these need to be tightend every year (car is just 1.5 years old) or did mine just came loose from the beginning and loosened more as they went by?
superchg2
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Re: Steering / chassis / subframe question    (Score: 1, Normal) 05-21-2012 05:56
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FiSH-Chan wrote:
I was complaining about the steering on my car a while back, saying the steering feels WORSE as the tires wear out.

Well turns out, it wasn't that problem...

I took it in for servicing recently and they did mention they retorqed and tightened the subframe or suspension parts (not sure which) and that actually solved the problem, the steering/chassis feels better overall!

So my question do these need to be tightend every year (car is just 1.5 years old) or did mine just came loose from the beginning and loosened more as they went by?


Those parts should have been torqued down from the factory.
You really wouldn't want suspension parts coming loose while you and the family are cruising down the highway!
FiSH-Chan
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Re: Steering / chassis / subframe question    (Score: 1, Normal) 05-21-2012 09:33
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superchg2 wrote:

Those parts should have been torqued down from the factory.
You really wouldn't want suspension parts coming loose while you and the family are cruising down the highway!



Exactly I was thinking. But they were not too loose, but generally it loosen up enough to feel like it has crappy chassis (I am very sensitive to these things).
auto_enthu
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Re: Steering / chassis / subframe question    (Score: 1, Normal) 05-21-2012 16:17
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Something similar happened to my 2008 CRV recently.

I was hearing metallic knocking sound from rear right suspension when the vehicle goes over a bump. The sound was pretty minor. Initially I thought it was the cargo tray, but even after I tested by removing everything that could possibly move, I was still getting the sound going over a bump.

So, I took it to the service guy where I regularly get my oil change done. He said he tightened the bolt that was connecting the chassis and the suspension and that fixed it. No more sound and the chassis now really feels like a single piece.

He said the bolt was'nt loose, but he said he was able to tighten it for about half a circle. He also inspected all other bolts and they were all fine.

The technician went on to say that Honda's chassis are not as 'strong' as Toyota, Nissan and Hyundai, although not sure what he meant by 'strong', and not sure if he actually meant to say rigid or stiff. The conversation with him was short. I was in a hurry. I did'nt really get a chance to talk to him further on why he thought Honda chassis are not 'strong'.

I've only heard good things about ACE chassis, how rigid it is and how well it distributes the collision forces across the chassis leaving very little force to go into the interior of the vehicle to limit the damage to the occupants of the vehicle.
And Honda's consistently high crash test ratings only prove it further.

So, I am curious to know how Honda's chassis compare with the rest in the industry.





FiSH-Chan
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Re: Steering / chassis / subframe question    (Score: 1, Normal) 05-21-2012 21:41
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auto_enthu wrote:
Something similar happened to my 2008 CRV recently.

I was hearing metallic knocking sound from rear right suspension when the vehicle goes over a bump. The sound was pretty minor. Initially I thought it was the cargo tray, but even after I tested by removing everything that could possibly move, I was still getting the sound going over a bump.

So, I took it to the service guy where I regularly get my oil change done. He said he tightened the bolt that was connecting the chassis and the suspension and that fixed it. No more sound and the chassis now really feels like a single piece.

He said the bolt was'nt loose, but he said he was able to tighten it for about half a circle. He also inspected all other bolts and they were all fine.

The technician went on to say that Honda's chassis are not as 'strong' as Toyota, Nissan and Hyundai, although not sure what he meant by 'strong', and not sure if he actually meant to say rigid or stiff. The conversation with him was short. I was in a hurry. I did'nt really get a chance to talk to him further on why he thought Honda chassis are not 'strong'.

I've only heard good things about ACE chassis, how rigid it is and how well it distributes the collision forces across the chassis leaving very little force to go into the interior of the vehicle to limit the damage to the occupants of the vehicle.
And Honda's consistently high crash test ratings only prove it further.

So, I am curious to know how Honda's chassis compare with the rest in the industry.




Thanks, glad to hear it was pretty normal (?) ... or at least someone else had similar exprience.

About the 'Honda Chassis' not strong. Yea I keep hearing it as well, mostly from those workshops that repair the cars. I think what the ACE does is that the crumple zones are really not that strong so it will absorb the force but the passenger compartment is strong so the driver and passenger is safe, but the result is that the chassis will be damaged to a point it needs a lot more repair done or replacement.. that is what caused them to say it isn't strong (I think) .

In the case with the Fit/City chassis though, I keep reading that this chassis is the most rigid there is from Honda, aside from Type Rs. Don't know how true that is, but certainly I am happy with how the chassis feels (if everything is torque down) over my previous cars, made the old ones feel like a floppy disk.
CarPhreakD
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Re: Steering / chassis / subframe question    (Score: 1, Normal) 06-20-2012 00:07
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Are you sure he didn't just do a regular alignment on your car?
FiSH-Chan
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Re: Steering / chassis / subframe question    (Score: 1, Normal) 06-20-2012 21:10
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CarPhreakD wrote:
Are you sure he didn't just do a regular alignment on your car?


Pretty sure, because they don't have alignment tool at the servicing center, they usually send it to one nearby and I would be charged for it. And I send my car for alignment / tier rotation at another place
 
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