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05-17-2012 15:41

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notyper wrote:
Wrong Tony. The worm has already turned on the CO2 argument. Sure, it or the son-of-CO2 will make a zombie-like return in 20-30 years. There are always people who want to tell you how you can live and they'll latch onto any rationale for implementing their way.

But people can only afford to get all misty about saving the spotted owls when they have enough to eat and can live in relative comfort/luxury. When the economy sucks, they say F*** that and buy what works best and, sorry little Delta Smelt, if its between you and me, you've got to go. They're not buying the whole CO2 = death argument that the enviro-commies have been selling. And if you pay attention to the technical climate sites, every day there's more information coming out completely debunking the load of crap that the enviro-weenies have tried to feed us.

I told you guys years ago that the "evil CO2" crowd was full of it. They had no real data, their conclusions were based on flimsy and incomplete models, and, as it turned out, they were proven to be serial liars, dissemblers and black-listers as well.

Now we find that US is sitting on perhaps the largest oil reserves in the world, and new exploratory and extraction techniques are finding more and more resources world wide. Do you really think politicians aren't going to put their finger in the wind and change their stances? C'mon, they're politicians, that's what they do (o.k., maybe not in Europe, but they're even worse off than the US is and, like California, places like France keep digging deeper).

My big complaint on this topic several years ago was that Honda's strategic planning and assessment folks were operating about 5 years behind the curve. They still are.

SC

Shawn... we've agreed on these things for years.

But, as it now stands, the little Delta Smelt.. a non native fish.. is still killing the Central Vally. Drive through it, see all the fallow arable land.

The EPA, DOE, DOJ, you name it.. they are the like Orwell's Ministries (Truth, Love, Peace, Plenty)... in that they are ANTI what they are supposed to be for.

And flimsy evidence? Lack of evidence never stopped any of those politicians, environmentalist, powergrabbers, UN ministers...

Just today, Obama announces "the Prison Rape Elimination Act".... See? WTF? Economy anyone? Heck no..

You assume that Truth will win.. sadly this is not common in human history.

Because of this, I think HMC is actually more pragmatic that we give it credit for. Now, if "ABO" wins this fall.. well, then we might see more K engines in NA.

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05-13-2012 20:14	Honda better tell Porsche they can't do that... (Score: 1, Normal)	owequitit
05-13-2012 22:50	Re: Honda better tell Porsche they can't do that... (Score: 1, Normal)	P54
05-13-2012 23:15	Re: Honda better tell Porsche they can't do that... (Score: 1, Normal)	THX17201
05-13-2012 23:41	Re: Honda better tell Porsche they can't do that... (Score: 1, Normal)	DCR
05-14-2012 00:03	Re: Honda better tell Porsche they can't do that... (Score: 1, Normal)	owequitit
05-14-2012 00:37	Re: Honda better tell Porsche they can't do that... (Score: 1, Normal)	DrWhiner
05-14-2012 02:23	Re: Honda better tell Porsche they can't do that... (Score: 1, Normal)	owequitit
05-14-2012 06:54	Re: Honda better tell Porsche they can't do that... (Score: 1, Normal)	Grace141
05-14-2012 20:54	Re: Honda better tell Porsche they can't do that... (Score: 1, Normal)	owequitit
05-14-2012 21:08	Re: Honda better tell Porsche they can't do that... (Score: 1, Normal)	RocketRon
05-15-2012 07:08	Re: Honda better tell Porsche they can't do that... (Score: 1, Normal)	Grace141
05-15-2012 07:57	Re: Honda better tell Porsche they can't do that... (Score: 1, Normal)	RocketRon
05-15-2012 09:59	Re: Honda better tell Porsche they can't do that... (Score: 1, Normal)	JMU R1
05-15-2012 12:55	Re: Honda better tell Porsche they can't do that... (Score: 1, Normal)	Grace141
05-15-2012 14:50	Re: Honda better tell Porsche they can't do that... (Score: 1, Normal)	JMU R1
05-15-2012 16:13	Re: Honda better tell Porsche they can't do that... (Score: 1, Normal)	BachelorFrog
05-15-2012 16:57	Re: Honda better tell Porsche they can't do that... (Score: 1, Normal)	notyper
05-15-2012 18:24	Re: Honda better tell Porsche they can't do that... (Score: 1, Normal)	Grace141
05-15-2012 19:56	Re: Honda better tell Porsche they can't do that... (Score: 1, Normal)	NealX
05-15-2012 20:11	Re: Honda better tell Porsche they can't do that... (Score: 1, Normal)	sadlerau
05-15-2012 21:44	Re: Honda better tell Porsche they can't do that... (Score: 1, Normal)	Potenza
05-15-2012 22:33	Re: Honda better tell Porsche they can't do that... (Score: 1, Normal)	FiSH-Chan
05-15-2012 23:36	Re: Honda better tell Porsche they can't do that... (Score: 1, Normal)	owequitit
05-16-2012 09:21	Re: Honda better tell Porsche they can't do that... (Score: 1, Normal)	P54
05-16-2012 10:04	Re: Honda better tell Porsche they can't do that... (Score: 1, Normal)	DCR
05-16-2012 10:27	Re: Honda better tell Porsche they can't do that... (Score: 1, Normal)	FiSH-Chan
05-17-2012 01:16	Re: Honda better tell Porsche they can't do that... (Score: 1, Normal)	owequitit
05-15-2012 22:44	Re: Honda better tell Porsche they can't do that... (Score: 1, Normal)	owequitit
05-15-2012 22:26	Re: Honda better tell Porsche they can't do that... (Score: 1, Normal)	owequitit
05-15-2012 22:48	Re: Honda better tell Porsche they can't do that... (Score: 1, Normal)	DrWhiner
05-15-2012 23:19	Re: Honda better tell Porsche they can't do that... (Score: 1, Normal)	mobis21
05-15-2012 23:36	Re: Honda better tell Porsche they can't do that... (Score: 1, Normal)	owequitit
05-16-2012 08:42	Re: Honda better tell Porsche they can't do that... (Score: 1, Normal)	Grace141
05-17-2012 01:12	Re: Honda better tell Porsche they can't do that... (Score: 1, Normal)	owequitit
05-17-2012 08:02	Re: Honda better tell Porsche they can't do that... (Score: 1, Normal)	Grace141
05-18-2012 01:51	Re: Honda better tell Porsche they can't do that... (Score: 1, Normal)	owequitit
05-18-2012 08:38	Re: Honda better tell Porsche they can't do that... (Score: 1, Normal)	Grace141
05-18-2012 09:33	Re: Honda better tell Porsche they can't do that... (Score: 1, Normal)	superchg2
05-19-2012 17:00	Re: Honda better tell Porsche they can't do that... (Score: 1, Normal)	owequitit
05-19-2012 18:09	Re: Honda better tell Porsche they can't do that... (Score: 1, Normal)	mobis21
05-20-2012 09:26	Re: Honda better tell Porsche they can't do that... (Score: 1, Normal)	Nick GravesX
05-20-2012 13:37	Re: Honda better tell Porsche they can't do that... (Score: 1, Normal)	RocketRon
05-20-2012 17:25	Re: Honda better tell Porsche they can't do that... (Score: 1, Normal)	DCR
05-20-2012 17:31	Re: Honda better tell Porsche they can't do that... (Score: 1, Normal)	330R
05-20-2012 18:45	Re: Honda better tell Porsche they can't do that... (Score: 1, Normal)	NealX
05-20-2012 19:22	Re: Honda better tell Porsche they can't do that... (Score: 1, Normal)	mobis21
05-20-2012 19:27	Re: Honda better tell Porsche they can't do that... (Score: 1, Normal)	DCR
05-21-2012 06:13	Re: Honda better tell Porsche they can't do that... (Score: 1, Normal)	Nick GravesX
05-19-2012 20:10	Re: Honda better tell Porsche they can't do that... (Score: 1, Normal)	superchg2
05-14-2012 07:40	Re: Honda better tell Porsche they can't do that... (Score: 1, Normal)	Mechanic
05-14-2012 08:41	Re: Honda better tell Porsche they can't do that... (Score: 1, Normal)	CR-V9
05-14-2012 11:22	Re: Honda better tell Porsche they can't do that... (Score: 1, Normal)	Mechanic
05-14-2012 11:35	Re: Honda better tell Porsche they can't do that... (Score: 1, Normal)	Powered by Honda
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05-14-2012 11:46	Re: Honda better tell Porsche they can't do that... (Score: 1, Normal)	WongKN
05-14-2012 12:24	Re: Honda better tell Porsche they can't do that... (Score: 1, Normal)	CR-V9
05-14-2012 22:55	Re: Honda better tell Porsche they can't do that... (Score: 1, Normal)	WongKN
05-15-2012 08:57	Re: Honda better tell Porsche they can't do that... (Score: 1, Normal)	CR-V9
05-14-2012 23:36	Re: Honda better tell Porsche they can't do that... (Score: 1, Normal)	owequitit
05-15-2012 09:17	Re: Honda better tell Porsche they can't do that... (Score: 1, Normal)	CR-V9
05-15-2012 09:41	Re: Honda better tell Porsche they can't do that... (Score: 1, Normal)	JMU R1
05-15-2012 10:00	Re: Honda better tell Porsche they can't do that... (Score: 1, Normal)	sadlerau
05-15-2012 18:45	Re: Honda better tell Porsche they can't do that... (Score: 1, Normal)	CarPhreakD
05-15-2012 10:18	Re: Honda better tell Porsche they can't do that... (Score: 1, Normal)	P54
05-15-2012 10:44	Re: Honda better tell Porsche they can't do that... (Score: 1, Normal)	notyper
05-15-2012 11:21	Re: Honda better tell Porsche they can't do that... (Score: 1, Normal)	FiSH-Chan
05-15-2012 14:43	Re: Honda better tell Porsche they can't do that... (Score: 1, Normal)	P54
05-15-2012 21:06	Re: Honda better tell Porsche they can't do that... (Score: 1, Normal)	FiSH-Chan
05-15-2012 13:30	Re: Honda better tell Porsche they can't do that... (Score: 1, Normal)	DCR
05-15-2012 12:30	Re: Honda better tell Porsche they can't do that... (Score: 1, Normal)	THX17201
05-15-2012 14:36	Re: Honda better tell Porsche they can't do that... (Score: 1, Normal)	P54
05-15-2012 14:59	Re: Honda better tell Porsche they can't do that... (Score: 1, Normal)	notyper
05-15-2012 16:01	Re: Honda better tell Porsche they can't do that... (Score: 1, Normal)	P54
05-15-2012 16:28	Re: Honda better tell Porsche they can't do that... (Score: 1, Normal)	Nick GravesX
05-15-2012 17:30	Re: Honda better tell Porsche they can't do that... (Score: 1, Normal)	notyper
05-15-2012 18:54	Re: Honda better tell Porsche they can't do that... (Score: 1, Normal)	TonyEX
05-15-2012 19:14	Re: Honda better tell Porsche they can't do that... (Score: 1, Normal)	THX17201
05-15-2012 19:28	Re: Honda better tell Porsche they can't do that... (Score: 1, Normal)	TonyEX
05-15-2012 21:20	Re: Honda better tell Porsche they can't do that... (Score: 1, Normal)	cksi1372
05-15-2012 23:21	Re: Honda better tell Porsche they can't do that... (Score: 1, Normal)	owequitit
05-16-2012 11:27	Re: Honda better tell Porsche they can't do that... (Score: 1, Normal)	DrWhiner
05-17-2012 01:43	Re: Honda better tell Porsche they can't do that... (Score: 1, Normal)	owequitit
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05-14-2012 14:31	Re: Honda better tell Porsche they can't do that... (Score: 1, Normal)	TonyEX
05-14-2012 22:30	Re: Honda better tell Porsche they can't do that... (Score: 1, Normal)	owequitit
05-15-2012 19:08	Re: Honda better tell Porsche they can't do that... (Score: 1, Normal)	TonyEX
05-15-2012 23:22	Re: Honda better tell Porsche they can't do that... (Score: 1, Normal)	owequitit
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05-14-2012 14:38	Re: Honda better tell Porsche they can't do that... (Score: 1, Normal)	TonyEX
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