TonyEX
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Took the Crosstour out this AM.. just three mile drive to work.. but in no time at all I got used to the new "Accord class" Navi. This is my first experience with the non touch screen interface.
All in all I much prefer the Big Knob instead of the old small knob. Moving the cursor now is much easier.
I like that they kept the simple NAVI map design (easy to read) but they have changed the design of everything else: Better resolution.
Also, having the hood over the screen help a lot with glare.
I see you also got the all weather mats.. I'm sold on them nowadays.
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JeffX
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TonyE wrote:
Took the Crosstour out this AM.. just three mile drive to work.. but in no time at all I got used to the new "Accord class" Navi. This is my first experience with the non touch screen interface.
All in all I much prefer the Big Knob instead of the old small knob. Moving the cursor now is much easier.
I like that they kept the simple NAVI map design (easy to read) but they have changed the design of everything else: Better resolution.
Also, having the hood over the screen help a lot with glare.
I see you also got the all weather mats.. I'm sold on them nowadays.
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was this targeted at somebody in particular?
I've been getting the all-weather mats in my cars since wayback. It helps preserve the carpeted mats and both of my kids play field sports so it cuts down on the amount of dirt and mud that finds its way into the main carpeting.
I've been meaning to order the cargo liner too - so that way when i put the dog in the back, i don't have to worry about marring Acura's "Triple faced luggage" finish in the cargo area. I have the cargo tray already and that's a must as well.
The navi in the TSX is pretty good, particularly since it's not crippled like how they're starting to cripple them (where you can't enter addresses and stuff while the car is moving)
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TonyEX
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Jeff wrote:
TonyE wrote:
Took the Crosstour out this AM.. just three mile drive to work.. but in no time at all I got used to the new "Accord class" Navi. This is my first experience with the non touch screen interface.
All in all I much prefer the Big Knob instead of the old small knob. Moving the cursor now is much easier.
I like that they kept the simple NAVI map design (easy to read) but they have changed the design of everything else: Better resolution.
Also, having the hood over the screen help a lot with glare.
I see you also got the all weather mats.. I'm sold on them nowadays.
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was this targeted at somebody in particular?
I've been getting the all-weather mats in my cars since wayback. It helps preserve the carpeted mats and both of my kids play field sports so it cuts down on the amount of dirt and mud that finds its way into the main carpeting.
I've been meaning to order the cargo liner too - so that way when i put the dog in the back, i don't have to worry about marring Acura's "Triple faced luggage" finish in the cargo area. I have the cargo tray already and that's a must as well.
The navi in the TSX is pretty good, particularly since it's not crippled like how they're starting to cripple them (where you can't enter addresses and stuff while the car is moving)
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(1) You.
(2) We always order the cargo mat and the net.
(3) Good to hear about the NAVI... the CT is also able to load destination addresses while on the go. Otherwise it's useless.
We need to stop so much litigation in the US... it's killing our competitiveness and is a huge hassle..... gains nothing, but enriches the lawyers.
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JeffX
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TonyE wrote:
Jeff wrote:
TonyE wrote:
Took the Crosstour out this AM.. just three mile drive to work.. but in no time at all I got used to the new "Accord class" Navi. This is my first experience with the non touch screen interface.
All in all I much prefer the Big Knob instead of the old small knob. Moving the cursor now is much easier.
I like that they kept the simple NAVI map design (easy to read) but they have changed the design of everything else: Better resolution.
Also, having the hood over the screen help a lot with glare.
I see you also got the all weather mats.. I'm sold on them nowadays.
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was this targeted at somebody in particular?
I've been getting the all-weather mats in my cars since wayback. It helps preserve the carpeted mats and both of my kids play field sports so it cuts down on the amount of dirt and mud that finds its way into the main carpeting.
I've been meaning to order the cargo liner too - so that way when i put the dog in the back, i don't have to worry about marring Acura's "Triple faced luggage" finish in the cargo area. I have the cargo tray already and that's a must as well.
The navi in the TSX is pretty good, particularly since it's not crippled like how they're starting to cripple them (where you can't enter addresses and stuff while the car is moving)
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(1) You.
(2) We always order the cargo mat and the net.
(3) Good to hear about the NAVI... the CT is also able to load destination addresses while on the go. Otherwise it's useless.
We need to stop so much litigation in the US... it's killing our competitiveness and is a huge hassle..... gains nothing, but enriches the lawyers.
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3) The '12 Civic and CR-V are this way and I'm pretty sure the ILX and RDX are as well. Shame...
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SHOBU
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Wow.
I had heard from a friend who had bought a new 2012 Mercedes C300 that was telling me they couldn't enter an address in the Navi while driving and without having sat in it I told them they must be doing something wrong ... since I had a 2010 TSX and was able to enter the address while on the go.
Now that I am hearing you guys talk I can't believe that it is actually true + that Honda is adopting the same restrictions.
I can honestly say that it is completely retarded to lock a user out from entering addresses while driving. Isn't there a disclaimer anyway before you use the Navi you have to accept that basically says you can't sue the manufacturer if you get into an accident.
They should at least allow you to enter an address while driving using hands free (so lock out the knob I guess)
I guess all drivers are deemed idiots these days.
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JeffX
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SHOBU wrote:
Wow.
I had heard from a friend who had bought a new 2012 Mercedes C300 that was telling me they couldn't enter an address in the Navi while driving and without having sat in it I told them they must be doing something wrong ... since I had a 2010 TSX and was able to enter the address while on the go.
Now that I am hearing you guys talk I can't believe that it is actually true + that Honda is adopting the same restrictions.
I can honestly say that it is completely retarded to lock a user out from entering addresses while driving. Isn't there a disclaimer anyway before you use the Navi you have to accept that basically says you can't sue the manufacturer if you get into an accident.
They should at least allow you to enter an address while driving using hands free (so lock out the knob I guess)
I guess all drivers are deemed idiots these days.
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you can do it with voice commands, just good luck having it understand you as you hurtle down the freeway at 70mph. When we travel, we use the navi interface a lot and it's primarily operated by the occupant in the passenger's seat so I *HATE* the lockout and I'm very thankful it's not implemented on our 2012 TSX.
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Karl O.
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I'm still pondering whether or not I want to pay $3500 for the nav and power liftgate. The backup camera would be nice, though. I can't imagine it will really enhance the resale value, but OTOH it annoys me to buy a car that doesn't have all of the toys!
1st world problems.
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JeffX
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Karl O. wrote:
I'm still pondering whether or not I want to pay $3500 for the nav and power liftgate. The backup camera would be nice, though. I can't imagine it will really enhance the resale value, but OTOH it annoys me to buy a car that doesn't have all of the toys!
1st world problems.
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is the 'real world' transaction price really $3500? I didn't even check what it would run me for a base TSX Sport Wagon.
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Trip
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My wife's Lexus and my Mazda 6 are the same way. Once the car starts moving, most of the input is disabled. Frustrating as hell when we can't search for a restaraunt or something while we're flying down the highway. While you can say "Find nearest..." - what I hate is that it will display *the* nearest, and that's it. The Honda system will list everything and you can scroll thru the list to find something to your liking.
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Karl O.
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Jeff wrote:
Karl O. wrote:
I'm still pondering whether or not I want to pay $3500 for the nav and power liftgate. The backup camera would be nice, though. I can't imagine it will really enhance the resale value, but OTOH it annoys me to buy a car that doesn't have all of the toys!
1st world problems.
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is the 'real world' transaction price really $3500? I didn't even check what it would run me for a base TSX Sport Wagon.
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I was down to $28.3k on a base model last month. You have to admit that is an attractive price. It's only $2800 more than I paid for 2004.
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TonyEX
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Trip wrote:
My wife's Lexus and my Mazda 6 are the same way. Once the car starts moving, most of the input is disabled. Frustrating as hell when we can't search for a restaraunt or something while we're flying down the highway. While you can say "Find nearest..." - what I hate is that it will display *the* nearest, and that's it. The Honda system will list everything and you can scroll thru the list to find something to your liking.
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Idiotic.... truly, pathetically, idiotic.... too many attorneys in this country.
We, NEVER know were we're going.. so my wife hacks at it while we're under way.
Nevermind long trips.
Why did AHM pull this stunt?
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Karl O.
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TonyE wrote:
Trip wrote:
My wife's Lexus and my Mazda 6 are the same way. Once the car starts moving, most of the input is disabled. Frustrating as hell when we can't search for a restaraunt or something while we're flying down the highway. While you can say "Find nearest..." - what I hate is that it will display *the* nearest, and that's it. The Honda system will list everything and you can scroll thru the list to find something to your liking.
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Idiotic.... truly, pathetically, idiotic.... too many attorneys in this country.
We, NEVER know were we're going.. so my wife hacks at it while we're under way.
Nevermind long trips.
Why did AHM pull this stunt?
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Lols Tony. As a lawyer would you like me to explain how things work. I don't necessarily agree with the end result of things, but someone has to cover everyone else's ass.
It's sort of a shitty job. When you get what everybody wants, it's because they deserved it. When people don't get what they want, it's all my fault.
So what do you want to blame on us lawyers? Maybe we could communicate better.
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TonyEX
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Karl O. wrote:
TonyE wrote:
Trip wrote:
My wife's Lexus and my Mazda 6 are the same way. Once the car starts moving, most of the input is disabled. Frustrating as hell when we can't search for a restaraunt or something while we're flying down the highway. While you can say "Find nearest..." - what I hate is that it will display *the* nearest, and that's it. The Honda system will list everything and you can scroll thru the list to find something to your liking.
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Idiotic.... truly, pathetically, idiotic.... too many attorneys in this country.
We, NEVER know were we're going.. so my wife hacks at it while we're under way.
Nevermind long trips.
Why did AHM pull this stunt?
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Lols Tony. As a lawyer would you like me to explain how things work. I don't necessarily agree with the end result of things, but someone has to cover everyone else's ass.
It's sort of a shitty job. When you get what everybody wants, it's because they deserved it. When people don't get what they want, it's all my fault.
So what do you want to blame on us lawyers? Maybe we could communicate better.
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The issue is product liability (*) ... and when you get too many lawyers floating around then you see too many lawsuits...
Then you get a Government policies based on lack of personal responsibility... the idea being that consumers "really don't know" hence they "have to be protected" from themselves.
Then you get more laws.
And more lawyers..
And more lawsuits.
In my experience with lawyers is that seldom is there a Yes/No answer. It often comes down to shades of grey... as in "likely to prevail"... or "not likely to prevail" while the hours keep running and the bill escalates.
So often, many of these lawsuits are fishing expeditions by the plaintiffs getting some money from the defendants to settle.
And the defendants often settle because it's cheaper to do so. Defending yourself can be more expensive than settling. Even if you win... being "right" is not applicable here ( Imagine the likes of Sharpton showing up with the plaintiff...).
Hence, as an engineer, I see designs that won't make it to the light of day.. perfectly good designs that will make the product better and more useful.... but are not produced because we might get sued by some idiot who did not know the "knife blade is sharp"....
IMHO, this is a product liability is a self inflicted, fundamental problem with our economic output. We spend way too much of our GDP on liability -and are no longer creative and globally competitive because of that- while our economic rivals have a free go at it because they do not have such a legal environment.
Not being able to set the NAVI for a search while the car is in motion is a perfect example of this. The voice commands are a joke and useless... so this is an example of someone NOT buying the NAVI and using their smart phone instead.
Oh what? Now someone will sue because they crashed while they were programming their smart phone's NAVI while the car was in motion?
Quick! Sue the auto manufacturer!
Quick! We need more laws to protect ourselves from ourselves..
(*) As well as too many regulations and too many laws which require lawyers to navigate.
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