RocketRon
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It is the only show in town!
Perhaps the ILX coupe shall change that?
But meanwhile...
I can recall that some of the magazines that tested the K24 Si figured they got their best 0-60 results by letting the wheels spin up to 6500 RPM (holy burnt rubber Batman!) until the 1st shift.
On the data sheet linked below, you'll notice road and track had recommended a 3000 RPM start and then easing on the throttle to avoid wheel spin in regards to the K20 Si:
http://www.roadandtrack.com/content/download/58119/1584965/version/4/file/RT_2006-Honda-Civic-Si_data.pdf
Can someone please explain why the larger displacement engine needs to burn so much rubber in order to compete with the K20? Perhaps the "moar tork" peeps have the answer?
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DCR
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Nick Graves wrote:
It's the only show in town these days.
I rarely drop in any more.
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It is an exciting time to be a Honda fan, that is for sure. Rumor has it they are coming out with a new car named the "Hindsight" that is going to fix everything.
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330R
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DCR wrote:
Nick Graves wrote:
It's the only show in town these days.
I rarely drop in any more.
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It is an exciting time to be a Honda fan, that is for sure. Rumor has it they are coming out with a new car named the "Hindsight" that is going to fix everything.
The eco weenies are gonna riot in the streets, though. I heard the Hindsight only gets 20/20.
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NealX
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DCR wrote:
Nick Graves wrote:
It's the only show in town these days.
I rarely drop in any more.
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It is an exciting time to be a Honda fan, that is for sure. Rumor has it they are coming out with a new car named the "Hindsight" that is going to fix everything.
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Are you still going on about the ILX?! ;-)
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mobis21
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Neal wrote:
DCR wrote:
Nick Graves wrote:
It's the only show in town these days.
I rarely drop in any more.
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It is an exciting time to be a Honda fan, that is for sure. Rumor has it they are coming out with a new car named the "Hindsight" that is going to fix everything.
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Are you still going on about the ILX?! ;-)
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I can't believe that someone who drives a Civic Hybrid would rag on anything else at Honda not being exciting.
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DCR
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Believe it.
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Nick GravesX
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DCR wrote:
Nick Graves wrote:
It's the only show in town these days.
I rarely drop in any more.
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It is an exciting time to be a Honda fan, that is for sure. Rumor has it they are coming out with a new car named the "Hindsight" that is going to fix everything.
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:D
Very good!
Presumably it's a cross between Der Hindenburg and a CR-Z.
Oh, the humanity!
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CarPhreakD
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lexusgs wrote:
CarPhreakD wrote:
lexusgs wrote:
Potenza wrote:
owequitit wrote:
So Porsche can manage to put a 9200RPM 562HP V8 in this car, and still get it to meet emissions requirements (in a hybrid no less)
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If Honda did the same thing, everyone on this forum would be up in arms about the batteries, multiple electric motors, "automatic"-only transmission, electronic nannies, et al.
Your headline is dead on. Honda better tell Porsche that sports cars aren't allowed to be hybrids! TOV says so. (Until there is a singular stat that can be disseminated from the bigger picture in order to push an agenda.)
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I read in a few British Car magazines that early test drives of the 918 were pretty disappointing and they said the battery/hybrid was the main culprit adding unnecessary weight and complexity to a very good V8. They could tell just be driving it the car felt compromised and not pure. It still early in its development phase but the people who drove it were saying it would be better if they shaved several hundred pounds off of it and ditched the hybrid and left it a pure NA V8, they could ruin a great car just for a "green" image. Porsche is also now saying the car will not be able to get the fuel economy originally predicted. They may just be better off ditching all the complex heavy hybrid/green tech they are putting in the car for just a KERS system.
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You mean the test drives... in development mules? People are complaining about a 150+hp power boost? Are you kidding me? What's next, are they going to complain about turbochargers?
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Yes, they said the development mule felt heavy and compromised and not very pure. They said it was obvious Porsche had to do so much to deal with/dissipate heat from the batteries/motors and they felt the overly complex hybrid system was holding the engine back from a purity standpoint. Remember that 150hp is not going to be constant and will be at the penalty of several hundred extra pounds. They were wondering if all the complexity, weight, and cost for the hybrid system to give it a green image was really worth it on a super sports car after the test drive.
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Let me try that again: Either you know fuck-all about how vehicle development is done, or you're crass and would rather believe EVERYTHING about a vehicle can be determined based on a mule that was cobbled together in a garage. There is NO WAY any development mule would reflect the final product, they're only there to validate the technology and determine which direction to head. Sometimes I think that British car rags are a bunch of balloon-headed f***s, what a pretentious group.
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