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Like the title states, just got back from seeing it on the dealers lot.
Few thoughts:
- in terms of size I was surprised that it is nearly identical to the TSX. The TSX has a little bit of a bigger butt but they were very close in size despite the significant weight difference
- the stitching on the leather seats was a bit of a turn off, had one stitch down the front that looked pretty cheap. Otherwise the interior was quite nice.
- I didn't think I liked the latest TSX but it actually looked really good when parked right next to the ILX. I actually want to test drive the TSX now.
- I just can't see them moving 40K units it's just not very nice and there is nothing particularly unique about it. Once they put ED tech into it that could warm me up to it again.
-Overall, I think I have all but scratched it off my list, waiting on the ED 2.4 6MT Accord now.
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99Type_SH wrote:
- in terms of size I was surprised that it is nearly identical to the TSX. The TSX has a little bit of a bigger butt but they were very close in size despite the significant weight difference
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Interesting, thanks for the comments. I guess this is a double edged sword. IMO, since most American buyers still equate "Size with Value" this car looking larger than it is could be a good thing.
However, they are (on paper at least) very different sized cars. 185.6 vs 179.1 in overall length and 72.4 vs. 70.6 for width. They are closest in height at 56.7 vs. 55.6 but the TSX is clearly the larger car - at least on paper.
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I'm surprised that you thought it looked nearly identical in size to the TSX. Standing near the front 3/4 the longer hood creates the impression that it could be as large, but I found that as I stepped back, then walked around to the rear, the car seems to "shrink." Walking round to the rear there was definitely a Dodge Avenger moment at the C-pillar where my viewing angle lines up with the trim and bodywork, but that moment falls away as you continue to the rear 3/4 and it flips to an Audi kind of thing. Weird. Chasing the ILX in a new RDX, I thought it looked somewhat small from the rear.
Actually, I was surprised by how large it DIDN'T look the first moment I walked into a tent of 10-12 of them.
I thought that the dash immediately in front of me (and center console) was very nice, in part because the new Civic seems like such a downgrade. I was impressed by the 2.4's gauges and their font use - though I don't recall if the graphics are the same in the 2.0 and hybrid. As my eyes worked their way to the door panels there was a drop off in execution, level of detailing and design follow-through with metallic painted parts and vinyl inserts. Somewhat average for the industry, though.
The seats are very comfortable though as you mentioned, the stitching can look cheap in some areas. I do like the idea of the sportier look of contrasting stitching, but the leather itself was nothing special and was of a similar grade found in a new Elantra and somewhat lesser than the first gen TSX, which itself was nothing special. For sure not as nice as the Cruze or Verano leather which is very buttery. The tan leather looked more pleasing than the black though I prefer black in color.
Super interested in how the North American sales will go. My concern is that it does 20-25K for the first full year, trends downward after that, and by the time the ED (!) engines arrive, the ILX will be seen as old news and dated by the next "latest thing" the supposed Gen-Yers have moved on to. Leave it to the 40-somethings to pick up the slack, then. Gen-X to the rescue! But we may be looking at the new Accord as the better value. And we'd now the new Accord is not "Civic-based." ;-)
It may require a super-substantial MMC to convince buyers that the exterior has been freshened to the level of the powertrain, whose numbers will likely match but not exceed what the competition is offering by the time ED arrives.
None of which would be a problem if the year was 2007...
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If I had to recommend a near-luxury car to somebody, I might suggest a look at the Verano as well as the ILX, since it is $3,000 less. It also has the 180 horse 2.4 engine with a 6 speed automatic, standard.
Really, if they had wanted a strong seller here, Acura might have held off a little longer and brought the ILX to market with the 2.4 ED engine standard, accompanied with an improved? CVT tranny, or the 6 speed stick.
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superchg2 wrote:
If I had to recommend a near-luxury car to somebody, I might suggest a look at the Verano as well as the ILX, since it is $3,000 less. It also has the 180 horse 2.4 engine with a 6 speed automatic, standard. |
Seriously? The Verano has a base weight of 3300 lbs. Add a moonroof, better stereo, and other options and it gets heavier. That almost completely negates the power advantage of the larger engine.
The fuel economy of the Verano is also terrible, at 21 City, 32 Highway. That's the best GM can do with Direct Injection and a 6AT? This is WORSE than a fat ass 8G Accord.
The Verano's rear suspension is also a torsion beam, while the ILX has multi-link in the rear, plus reactive 2-stage dampers. Sorry, but the Verano argument is played out, and it's NOT a good deal even if it costs 3k less than ILX. The Verano is just mediocre all around.
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atomiclightbulb wrote:
superchg2 wrote:
If I had to recommend a near-luxury car to somebody, I might suggest a look at the Verano as well as the ILX, since it is $3,000 less. It also has the 180 horse 2.4 engine with a 6 speed automatic, standard. |
Seriously? The Verano has a base weight of 3300 lbs. Add a moonroof, better stereo, and other options and it gets heavier. That almost completely negates the power advantage of the larger engine.
The fuel economy of the Verano is also terrible, at 21 City, 32 Highway. That's the best GM can do with Direct Injection and a 6AT? This is WORSE than a fat ass 8G Accord.
The Verano's rear suspension is also a torsion beam, while the ILX has multi-link in the rear, plus reactive 2-stage dampers. Sorry, but the Verano argument is played out, and it's NOT a good deal even if it costs 3k less than ILX. The Verano is just mediocre all around.
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Agreed, the Verano just isn't an option. The Verano is Full-sized Accord heavy. And the mileage of GM's ecotech never impresses in the real world.
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Nothing a K22Z/MT6/LSD with NAVI and ELS will not solve. With cloth/microsuede bucket seats.
Black/black, red stitching, Red Type S logos, simple 18 inch five spoke inch wheels (like my old SH), 225/55-18 BS RE-something tires....
Like I said, I could live with all the stuff you just said...
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actually it looks alot smaller then the tsx when I saw them.
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For myself, I would not consider the Verano as an alt to the ILX, though it's emerging now that many are. I like to think that the buyers are much different people though both marketing teams don't seem to think so. Still rattled that Buick and Acura are being used in the same sentence - just like Regal and TSX...
Both need to ad 10-15 years to their target demographic. (Ugh, can't believe I'm using the phrase, "target demographic.") The car should be so awesome that EVERYONE wants it.
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Neal wrote:
For myself, I would not consider the Verano as an alt to the ILX, though it's emerging now that many are. I like to think that the buyers are much different people though both marketing teams don't seem to think so. Still rattled that Buick and Acura are being used in the same sentence - just like Regal and TSX...
Both need to ad 10-15 years to their target demographic. (Ugh, can't believe I'm using the phrase, "target demographic.") The car should be so awesome that EVERYONE wants it. |
Buick has gotten a lot of attention recently because the sheet metal on their cars has gotten nicer, and because GM has given the brand designs that are distinct from Chevy and Cadillac. I don't think the engineering that goes into these cars is all that great. Buick is the "budget" premium brand, and Acura has traditionally been the "good deal" on a premium car. No surprise that they are being compared. If Ford had saved Mercury by giving it unique vehicles for the premium segment, I think we'd see the same comparisons to Acura.
Is it possible to design a car for everyone?
What I really wish Honda would get away from is not allowing consumers to have more flexibility in packages.
The lack of Technology Package on the 2.4L model is perhaps the most glaring example of this. I have my own gripes though.
If I could get it, I would buy an ILX 2.0 with all the Tech Package features except leather seats, and a manual transmission. I can't customize this kind of vehicle. If I want a manual, I'm stuck with the 2.4L Premium. Which gives me leather, which I don't want, and leaves out the ELS audio, which I do want. If I was able to, I'd ditch the moonroof as I find them useless (just adds weight -- to the top of the car).
So basically, I won't buy an ILX because if I'm going to pay a lot for a car, I'm going to want to customize it exactly how I want it.
Honda and Acura's packaging makes me feel boxed in. I think the design is fantastic. It's a shame I can't get the combination of features that is right for me. Part of being luxury or premium I think is being able to get exactly what suits you.
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Neal wrote:
I'm surprised that you thought it looked nearly identical in size to the TSX. Standing near the front 3/4 the longer hood creates the impression that it could be as large, but I found that as I stepped back, then walked around to the rear, the car seems to "shrink." Walking round to the rear there was definitely a Dodge Avenger moment at the C-pillar where my viewing angle lines up with the trim and bodywork, but that moment falls away as you continue to the rear 3/4 and it flips to an Audi kind of thing. Weird. Chasing the ILX in a new RDX, I thought it looked somewhat small from the rear.
Actually, I was surprised by how large it DIDN'T look the first moment I walked into a tent of 10-12 of them.
I thought that the dash immediately in front of me (and center console) was very nice, in part because the new Civic seems like such a downgrade. I was impressed by the 2.4's gauges and their font use - though I don't recall if the graphics are the same in the 2.0 and hybrid. As my eyes worked their way to the door panels there was a drop off in execution, level of detailing and design follow-through with metallic painted parts and vinyl inserts. Somewhat average for the industry, though.
The seats are very comfortable though as you mentioned, the stitching can look cheap in some areas. I do like the idea of the sportier look of contrasting stitching, but the leather itself was nothing special and was of a similar grade found in a new Elantra and somewhat lesser than the first gen TSX, which itself was nothing special. For sure not as nice as the Cruze or Verano leather which is very buttery. The tan leather looked more pleasing than the black though I prefer black in color.
Super interested in how the North American sales will go. My concern is that it does 20-25K for the first full year, trends downward after that, and by the time the ED (!) engines arrive, the ILX will be seen as old news and dated by the next "latest thing" the supposed Gen-Yers have moved on to. Leave it to the 40-somethings to pick up the slack, then. Gen-X to the rescue! But we may be looking at the new Accord as the better value. And we'd now the new Accord is not "Civic-based." ;-)
It may require a super-substantial MMC to convince buyers that the exterior has been freshened to the level of the powertrain, whose numbers will likely match but not exceed what the competition is offering by the time ED arrives.
None of which would be a problem if the year was 2007...
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I felt the same way when I saw it at the ny auto show. Look very small, almost civic size small.
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Neal wrote:
I'm surprised that you thought it looked nearly identical in size to the TSX. Standing near the front 3/4 the longer hood creates the impression that it could be as large, but I found that as I stepped back, then walked around to the rear, the car seems to "shrink." Walking round to the rear there was definitely a Dodge Avenger moment at the C-pillar where my viewing angle lines up with the trim and bodywork, but that moment falls away as you continue to the rear 3/4 and it flips to an Audi kind of thing. Weird. Chasing the ILX in a new RDX, I thought it looked somewhat small from the rear.
Actually, I was surprised by how large it DIDN'T look the first moment I walked into a tent of 10-12 of them.
I thought that the dash immediately in front of me (and center console) was very nice, in part because the new Civic seems like such a downgrade. I was impressed by the 2.4's gauges and their font use - though I don't recall if the graphics are the same in the 2.0 and hybrid. As my eyes worked their way to the door panels there was a drop off in execution, level of detailing and design follow-through with metallic painted parts and vinyl inserts. Somewhat average for the industry, though.
The seats are very comfortable though as you mentioned, the stitching can look cheap in some areas. I do like the idea of the sportier look of contrasting stitching, but the leather itself was nothing special and was of a similar grade found in a new Elantra and somewhat lesser than the first gen TSX, which itself was nothing special. For sure not as nice as the Cruze or Verano leather which is very buttery. The tan leather looked more pleasing than the black though I prefer black in color.
Super interested in how the North American sales will go. My concern is that it does 20-25K for the first full year, trends downward after that, and by the time the ED (!) engines arrive, the ILX will be seen as old news and dated by the next "latest thing" the supposed Gen-Yers have moved on to. Leave it to the 40-somethings to pick up the slack, then. Gen-X to the rescue! But we may be looking at the new Accord as the better value. And we'd now the new Accord is not "Civic-based." ;-)
It may require a super-substantial MMC to convince buyers that the exterior has been freshened to the level of the powertrain, whose numbers will likely match but not exceed what the competition is offering by the time ED arrives.
None of which would be a problem if the year was 2007...
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I felt the same way when I saw it at the ny auto show. Look very small, almost civic size small.
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There were parked right next to each other (ILX and TSX) I have some good pictures on my phone. Wish I could post them because the cars really appear to be the same size except at the rear the TSX is a little wider and just slightly longer. I would definitely consider these two cars to be in the same size category.
My impressions changed, on that day, I realized the ILX is bigger than I thought it would be and that the TSX was smaller. I know it is a perceptions issue because the measurements are what they are but it was an eye opener. I'm all over the TSX now. Might try to pick up an 11' 6MT at auction to have for 2 or 3 years or so while ED gets fully rolled out. I'm pumped.
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My wife and I waited for this car to replace her 2004 base RSX. The first disappointment was that it wouldn't be a coupe.
We really wanted to like this car. We saw it for the first time in NY at the auto show. I love my 2007 Civic Si sedan, and hoped this car would be an Acura version of the Si.
After considering the $30K price, for the 2.4L 6-speed, the features that we didn't really want, (texting) and the fact that it is a little larger sedan than we wanted, we then shopped the 2.4L Accord EX Coupe manual transmission.
Yes the Accord Coupe is heavier and even larger, but the rest of the car and deal are more like what we actually wanted. Also The 5 speed manual has taller gears than the 6 speed manual, but it has less reliability problems.
The coupe's stereo with bluetooth is great. We could get a red that we wanted instead of a boring gray, white, or black. Best of all we paid a shade over $21K with no real need to haggle. Now I will probably spend less than $1K to add heated leather seats and pnp HID lights (The coupe has projectors).
We really think that Acura has lost us back to Honda.
BTW, our other cars include the Civic Si sedan, a 2008 Honda S2000, and a 2008 Mazda5 microvan (There is no Honda microvan in the USA).
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Sounds like the cars I'd like for our family.
Currently have 2007 Civic Si Sedan. Looking to buy an S2K and would love a Mazda 5 if they added the new Sky-Activ diesel powertrain.
bilzfan1 wrote:
BTW, our other cars include the Civic Si sedan, a 2008 Honda S2000, and a 2008 Mazda5 microvan (There is no Honda microvan in the USA).
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bilzfan1 wrote:
My wife and I waited for this car to replace her 2004 base RSX. The first disappointment was that it wouldn't be a coupe.
We really wanted to like this car. We saw it for the first time in NY at the auto show. I love my 2007 Civic Si sedan, and hoped this car would be an Acura version of the Si.
After considering the $30K price, for the 2.4L 6-speed, the features that we didn't really want, (texting) and the fact that it is a little larger sedan than we wanted, we then shopped the 2.4L Accord EX Coupe manual transmission.
Yes the Accord Coupe is heavier and even larger, but the rest of the car and deal are more like what we actually wanted. Also The 5 speed manual has taller gears than the 6 speed manual, but it has less reliability problems.
The coupe's stereo with bluetooth is great. We could get a red that we wanted instead of a boring gray, white, or black. Best of all we paid a shade over $21K with no real need to haggle. Now I will probably spend less than $1K to add heated leather seats and pnp HID lights (The coupe has projectors).
We really think that Acura has lost us back to Honda.
BTW, our other cars include the Civic Si sedan, a 2008 Honda S2000, and a 2008 Mazda5 microvan (There is no Honda microvan in the USA).
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How come you guys didn't wait for the next gen coupe which is smaller and a new design? Just wondering. Also the ilx coupe that got axed due to the tsunami, what's become of this?
Surely Honda is back on track and tochigi plant back to normal. Oh wait, a super rare TORNADO just ripped through the town... And the hits just keep on coming!
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Considering the following facts-
The very first production ILX rolled off the assembly line on April 23rd-you posted this on April 28th after you say you saw the car on a dealer's lot.
Dealers have been told to anticipate receiving their first ILX on or about May 22nd-my dealership got our first ILX vin number yesterday and the car still has not shipped yet
The FIRST ILX ride and drive was May 2nd and in my 18 years of selling the product I have NEVER seen a car designated for ride and drive shipped to a dealership first
I am skeptical that you saw what you claim to have seen.
On which "dealer's lot" did you see the car?
Was it in a dealer's inventory? If it was, can you explain how that dealership got that car nearly a month before the official on-sale date and only 5 days after the first production ILX was built? We don't even have lease residuals or a concrete accessory matrix yet.
Or, was it a pre-production example being driven by a factory rep?
Did it have a window sticker on it? A license plate? What trim level was it? What color? Why can't you post a link to the great pictures in your phone?
You may not care if I believe you or not, and that's fine. That said, any time anyone posted something like this here in the past there were photos and more details to back up the story. Basically all you have said is I saw it and I don't like it.
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Not any disrespect but I work for a dealer in Canada and we had an ILX here on April 28th for a Canada wide customer appreciation/previewing of the ILX in conjunction with the Avengers movie. You were not able to test drive it or anything. But it was here with the window sticker TBD.
It was picked back up on Tuesday the 8th of May to go and sit at a compound until the official release date. So it is plausible that one was spotted at a dealership.
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Bingo. I.went in to test drive the TSX this week and the ILX was gone. They told me.exactly what you just said. It was only in.their.lot for a matter of hours. They weren't even allowed to drive it to the movie.theater it was picked up and dropped off their and then Acura send it straight into hiding in the city after that. They.are getting it back to sell on the 25th along with two more to be sold on release day. My guess is after that people will be told supply is extremely limited and they will try to collect deposits on future shipments before they arrive.
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Autotrader is loaded with these now.
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I saw three ILXs on Friday: one stripper 2.0, one Tech 2.0, and one Hybrid. Underwhelming would be the word. It didn't help they were only black and gray. A few folks were standing around. Comments were, "which one is the ILX" (while still on the transporter). I said, 'see the ones with the chrome window trim?'. The reply, "Oh, it looks like a Civic". After pointing out the white Civic in front of the ILX, the reply, "I think I'd rather have that Civic". That comment even surprised me a little. Moving on..
Once on the ground, folks standing around could see the cars closer, including the window stickers. "What? I thought these were going to be cheaper!". "Well, they said, "starting under $30,000". They do, but one of these is almost $35,000, and that's before adding on the accessories". "This is too close to the TSX". These are sales people, btw. There was no 2.4 model on the truck. Someone asked about that and I told them I read Acura expects only 5% will be sold with the 2.4. "Yeah, and it doesn't offer Tech. That pisses me off", said a salesman. I think he wanted one in that flavor for himself. He's better off leasing the TSX, anyway.
A technician coming back from gassing up the hybrid after the PDI, "This hybrid has no get up and go". Well it has 110 horsepower. "But it costs more than the TSX!". Yeah. Surreal.
Three people pointed out how hard and how cheap the base model 2.0 driver's seat was. The cushion cover is cloth (or something like cloth) and the bolsters are part leather (maybe) and part vinyl.
I'll have driving impressions (or unimpressions) at some point.
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I forgot about the most positive comment heard: "I like how it looks like a Lexus IS on the side window".
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I just got an email from my dealer that they just took delivery of four new ILXs. I was thinking of stopping by after work since it is directly on the way home...but then I remembered I just don't give a crap about this car.
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330R wrote:
I saw three ILXs on Friday: one stripper 2.0, one Tech 2.0, and one Hybrid. Underwhelming would be the word. It didn't help they were only black and gray. A few folks were standing around. Comments were, "which one is the ILX" (while still on the transporter). I said, 'see the ones with the chrome window trim?'. The reply, "Oh, it looks like a Civic". After pointing out the white Civic in front of the ILX, the reply, "I think I'd rather have that Civic". That comment even surprised me a little. Moving on..
Once on the ground, folks standing around could see the cars closer, including the window stickers. "What? I thought these were going to be cheaper!". "Well, they said, "starting under $30,000". They do, but one of these is almost $35,000, and that's before adding on the accessories". "This is too close to the TSX". These are sales people, btw. There was no 2.4 model on the truck. Someone asked about that and I told them I read Acura expects only 5% will be sold with the 2.4. "Yeah, and it doesn't offer Tech. That pisses me off", said a salesman. I think he wanted one in that flavor for himself. He's better off leasing the TSX, anyway.
A technician coming back from gassing up the hybrid after the PDI, "This hybrid has no get up and go". Well it has 110 horsepower. "But it costs more than the TSX!". Yeah. Surreal.
Three people pointed out how hard and how cheap the base model 2.0 driver's seat was. The cushion cover is cloth (or something like cloth) and the bolsters are part leather (maybe) and part vinyl.
I'll have driving impressions (or unimpressions) at some point.
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This essentially is in line with the impressions I gathered and posted from my impromptu "mini-clinic" some time ago. Those impressions were quickly discounted by some (which is fine) but now as the vehicles come of the transports I'm very much interested to hear the good (there's still much "good" to be found) and the not-so-good as TOVers stand before the actual cars.
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330R wrote:
I saw three ILXs on Friday: one stripper 2.0, one Tech 2.0, and one Hybrid. Underwhelming would be the word. It didn't help they were only black and gray. A few folks were standing around. Comments were, "which one is the ILX" (while still on the transporter). I said, 'see the ones with the chrome window trim?'. The reply, "Oh, it looks like a Civic". After pointing out the white Civic in front of the ILX, the reply, "I think I'd rather have that Civic". That comment even surprised me a little. Moving on..
Once on the ground, folks standing around could see the cars closer, including the window stickers. "What? I thought these were going to be cheaper!". "Well, they said, "starting under $30,000". They do, but one of these is almost $35,000, and that's before adding on the accessories". "This is too close to the TSX". These are sales people, btw. There was no 2.4 model on the truck. Someone asked about that and I told them I read Acura expects only 5% will be sold with the 2.4. "Yeah, and it doesn't offer Tech. That pisses me off", said a salesman. I think he wanted one in that flavor for himself. He's better off leasing the TSX, anyway.
A technician coming back from gassing up the hybrid after the PDI, "This hybrid has no get up and go". Well it has 110 horsepower. "But it costs more than the TSX!". Yeah. Surreal.
Three people pointed out how hard and how cheap the base model 2.0 driver's seat was. The cushion cover is cloth (or something like cloth) and the bolsters are part leather (maybe) and part vinyl.
I'll have driving impressions (or unimpressions) at some point.
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Looks like the Civic?
What the hell?
After Acura went to the trouble of ditching the Civic's body panels, people still see the resemblance? Hell.
But yeah. This thing is priced too high. Especially the hybrid.
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I saw an ILX this weekend in person at our local Autoshow. The car iself was nice, I like the way it looks, however just looking at it (it was black which I don't think helped) from the outside it looked like another small car. The Acura grill really stood out up front, but other than that it was just a nice small car. When sitting inside it seemed tighter than the Civic I sat in before it. The interior was obviously way more upscale than the Civic. After looking at it I left feeling no strong feelings one way or the other about it.
To me I could see someone who buy a top end compact looking at this car if they wern't going for max MPG for the $. I forgot to look at the MSRP on it though.
I stood there looking at the Acura's for almost 15 minutes... and other than myself, there were only 2 other people that looked at the ILX, both guys. Of course when I was over at Buick I was around there for about 10 minutes and I never saw anyone look at the Verano, and the only had 1. There were 3 Regals and there were quite a few people looking at them.
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ClementZ wrote:
330R wrote:
I saw three ILXs on Friday: one stripper 2.0, one Tech 2.0, and one Hybrid. Underwhelming would be the word. It didn't help they were only black and gray. A few folks were standing around. Comments were, "which one is the ILX" (while still on the transporter). I said, 'see the ones with the chrome window trim?'. The reply, "Oh, it looks like a Civic". After pointing out the white Civic in front of the ILX, the reply, "I think I'd rather have that Civic". That comment even surprised me a little. Moving on..
Once on the ground, folks standing around could see the cars closer, including the window stickers. "What? I thought these were going to be cheaper!". "Well, they said, "starting under $30,000". They do, but one of these is almost $35,000, and that's before adding on the accessories". "This is too close to the TSX". These are sales people, btw. There was no 2.4 model on the truck. Someone asked about that and I told them I read Acura expects only 5% will be sold with the 2.4. "Yeah, and it doesn't offer Tech. That pisses me off", said a salesman. I think he wanted one in that flavor for himself. He's better off leasing the TSX, anyway.
A technician coming back from gassing up the hybrid after the PDI, "This hybrid has no get up and go". Well it has 110 horsepower. "But it costs more than the TSX!". Yeah. Surreal.
Three people pointed out how hard and how cheap the base model 2.0 driver's seat was. The cushion cover is cloth (or something like cloth) and the bolsters are part leather (maybe) and part vinyl.
I'll have driving impressions (or unimpressions) at some point.
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The price for the ILX hybrid with Tech at one of the dealers near me is a mind boggling $35,295. That is before tax, fees, etc. We're talking over 37k out the door for a 110 hp car.
Looks like the Civic?
What the hell?
After Acura went to the trouble of ditching the Civic's body panels, people still see the resemblance? Hell.
But yeah. This thing is priced too high. Especially the hybrid.
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ClementZ wrote:
Looks like the Civic?
What the hell?
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Yeah. At least while sitting together on the transporter, the Civic and ILX sharing the same wheelbase stood out. The first difference to catch my eye at least was the chrome window trim, especially at the c-pillar. The person who couldn't pick out the ILX at first is not really a car enthusiast; more into motorcycles. So basically it was a first impression from someone removed from those of us who've known and seen pictures of the ILX for months. A raw first impression. But cars are more likely to be seen on the ground and not on transporter trucks, and we'll hear more impressions from the public as time goes on.
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Well, if anyone cares, and I hope someone from acura is reading this. I was the OP and had waiting over a year for this sub-tsx to come out to replace my 06 FG2. Well, I was underwhelmed with the styling and really didn't care for the powertrain. It did get me into the showroom and I realized I liked the styling of the TSX. I took the TSX for a test drive but ultimately the skyhigh Canadian prices and lack of character sent me looking again. Test drove a GTI and while i wasn't impressed with the top end character everything else was amazing. The leather interior, the low end grunt, the smooth shifts, the exterior looks, the efficient turbo 4 cylinder. So I've got one on order, so long Honda/Acura, until we meet again....if we meet again that is.
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99Type_SH wrote:
Well, if anyone cares, and I hope someone from acura is reading this. I was the OP and had waiting over a year for this sub-tsx to come out to replace my 06 FG2. Well, I was underwhelmed with the styling and really didn't care for the powertrain. It did get me into the showroom and I realized I liked the styling of the TSX. I took the TSX for a test drive but ultimately the skyhigh Canadian prices and lack of character sent me looking again. Test drove a GTI and while i wasn't impressed with the top end character everything else was amazing. The leather interior, the low end grunt, the smooth shifts, the exterior looks, the efficient turbo 4 cylinder. So I've got one on order, so long Honda/Acura, until we meet again....if we meet again that is.
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Would a 220hp K22 with a 6MT and LSD have made up for the underwhelming styling? If such a model existed, would you go for it?
Well, I don't blame you man. I had hoped for the return of the Integra, because by my estimation, that's what Acura needs and what I want to buy from them. I guess all these gen-Y folks itching to buy the ILX will get what they want instead.
Congrats and enjoy your MK VI GTI. Don't be a stranger to TOV, though. I recognize your screen name. We don't need to lose any more enthusiasts.
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