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  TOV News > Honda Develops World’s First Technology to Detect the Potential for Traffic Congestion > > Re: Great concept. Now make it retrofittable into the millions of vehicles already on the road.

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Slawsk
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Great concept. Now make it retrofittable into the millions of vehicles already on the road. [View News Item]    (Score: 1, Normal) 04-27-2012 10:00
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It can be done with the will of the engineers and blessing of governments around the world.
DCR
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Re: Great concept. Now make it retrofittable into the millions of vehicles already on the road. [View News Item]    (Score: 1, Normal) 04-27-2012 10:09
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They just need to invent common sense.
duncan
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Re: Great concept. Now make it retrofittable into the millions of vehicles already on the road. [View News Item]    (Score: 1, Normal) 04-27-2012 11:55
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If drivers on their own learn to maintain lane discipline, use their turn signals, refrain from tailgating and passing on the right lane, etc, etc.....in short, drive like you're supposed to, and not like a bunch selfish a-holes, then we wouldn't even need this technology. Human nature being what it is, the only sure fire way to eliminate congestion is to completely take away control of cars from the drivers and slave the cars to some central server. Otherwise, this is going to be a complete waste of time & money on Honda's part.
duncan
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Re: Great concept. Now make it retrofittable into the millions of vehicles already on the road. [View News Item]    (Score: 1, Normal) 04-27-2012 12:11
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The other thing about congestion, at least in N. America with its urban sprawl, is simply sheer volume. In the Greater Toronto Area pretty much all the major routes like the 401, the 400, the 404/DVP are jammed 24/7, which has nothing to do with keeping adequate space between cars. No fancy gimmick is going to solve this kind of traffic jam, which is a completely different issue altogether.
Ultima
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Re: Great concept. Now make it retrofittable into the millions of vehicles already on the road. [View News Item]    (Score: 1, Normal) 04-27-2012 18:19
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Great. Now how about making a 6spd auto standard in your lineup?
NickDC5
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Re: Great concept. Now make it retrofittable into the millions of vehicles already on the road. [View News Item]    (Score: 1, Normal) 04-28-2012 08:58
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Whoa whoa whoa, you're expecting people to do what seems to be the best for the whole, not what seems to be the best for the individual, even if what's best for the whole benefits the individual greater. Now that's just crazy talk!

I like this system. It's got to start some place and some time, so they might as well implement it now rather than too late.


Only thing I don't like is that it's one more step for the car being autonomous and driving you everywhere. :(

zapata
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Re: Great concept. Now make it retrofittable into the millions of vehicles already on the road. [View News Item]    (Score: 1, Normal) 04-29-2012 00:48
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nearly everybody has a cellphone... problem solved.
Ganplosive
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Re: Great concept. Now make it retrofittable into the millions of vehicles already on the road. [View News Item]    (Score: 1, Normal) 04-29-2012 06:22
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this system is basically another driving aid. Just like the eco driving aid that was given in the CRZ.

Sure I agree if the driver follows the driving aid to the dot then it'll work. Problem is you can't account for the other people in other cars and what they're gonna do. Ever seen the streets of Beijing? Shanghai? Los Angeles??

On another note, I don't really have a problem with Honda making the CR-Z feel more like a game with the color coded dash. But I'm also part of the camp that thinks most hybrid drivers already knows a thing or two about maximizing gas mileage (gas slower and brake soft). I think the CRZ driving aid, and this aid, is actually just more of a distraction than an asset.
montechester
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Re: Great concept. Now make it retrofittable into the millions of vehicles already on the road. [View News Item]    (Score: 1, Normal) 04-29-2012 23:42
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Ganplosive wrote:
I think the CRZ driving aid, and this aid, is actually just more of a distraction than an asset.


And you base your opinion on what? Your own driving style? I'd hope you are better than average if you call yourself a car guy, but most people just aren't, and THAT is where this type system can make a significant improvement in efficiency.
Ganplosive
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Re: Great concept. Now make it retrofittable into the millions of vehicles already on the road. [View News Item]    (Score: 1, Normal) 04-30-2012 03:07
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sounds like you got some chips on your shoulders.

that IS my opinion. I also don't feel like all this driving aid and hybrid/electronic-assist stuff is exactly following their man-maximum machine-minimum mantra either.
montechester
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Re: Great concept. Now make it retrofittable into the millions of vehicles already on the road. [View News Item]    (Score: 1, Normal) 05-01-2012 02:10
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I simply asked WHY you have said opinion. An opinion is worthless without an explanation and/or backup info or data. If it is just an unsupported opinion, then it is without merit.


Ganplosive wrote:
sounds like you got some chips on your shoulders.

that IS my opinion. I also don't feel like all this driving aid and hybrid/electronic-assist stuff is exactly following their man-maximum machine-minimum mantra either.


DrWhiner
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Re: Great concept. Now make it retrofittable into the millions of vehicles already on the road. [View News Item]    (Score: 1, Normal) 05-01-2012 12:54
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On another note, I don't really have a problem with Honda making the CR-Z feel more like a game with the color coded dash. But I'm also part of the camp that thinks most hybrid drivers already knows a thing or two about maximizing gas mileage (gas slower and brake soft)...

JUST go to any CRZzzzz forum and you'll find out the TRUTH instead of blind-guessing.
saitamahonda
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Re: Great concept. Now make it retrofittable into the millions of vehicles already on the road. [View News Item]    (Score: 1, Normal) 05-01-2012 16:45
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You guys are all on the right page.

Think iRobot, and then look at the AC-X concept video from the Tokyo Motor Show. This technology isn't intended for America just yet, because it's not ready to be embraced. There is too much sense of "individuality and freedom" that is ingrained in American mindset. Which is why these technologies will thrive in the countries and cities where driving isn't hyped up to be.

This technology is mostly for countries with people accustom to being on railways and would prefer not to drive. It's also for people who have grown accustom to riding work shuttles or arranged van pools. The direction locomotion is going is that, for the most part, driving will be automated. When needed, user-override is possible.

This won't take off in the US just yet and may never see the light of day if Google has it's way with auto-tech. But for those of you who are still in denial, the self-driving car is just around corner, and something we'll probably see quite frequently within the foreseeable future.

Tokyo Motor Show - Honda AC-X Automatic Driving
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TuNUKyPWPBM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=puc1uGUTj4s

No subtitles, but the explanation is that a car should be comfortable whether you're driving or being driven. Watching this video will give you a good sense of what Honda is and is striving to be. Personally, I love the direction Honda is going, and while it doesn't vibe with many hear, Honda should stay course and do what only it does.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-QR2i44kXaM

Below is a video of Ito giving a press conference describing Honda's state of the art and future campus upgrades including SOLAR Powered facilities, moving away from the dependence on TEPCO's nuclear generated electric power.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pypMdCWWruY
He also mentions that Honda won the MOTOGP riders, championship, constructors championship, and team championship!
Ganplosive
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Re: Great concept. Now make it retrofittable into the millions of vehicles already on the road. [View News Item]    (Score: 1, Normal) 05-03-2012 02:33
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I based my opinion on knowing already to avoid gas and break, along with most of the people I know that drive. Second of all, I based my opinion knowing that some people just drive certain ways with or without a driving guide that changes colors. 3rd of all, whether or not someone heeds a driving guide is all based on how much time that person has left to get from point A to point B, thereby providing guidance simply based on my driving behavior does not encompass the entire point of driving / driving experience.

Therefore, I have been driving for years without aids, and generations before me have also driven with aids. It is not necessary.
Ganplosive
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Re: Great concept. Now make it retrofittable into the millions of vehicles already on the road. [View News Item]    (Score: 1, Normal) 05-03-2012 02:55
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but again those are my opinions, while they could very well be selling points on the CR-Z which I say kudos. I mean it's not either or, I'm not saying I can't drive with it but I'm just saying it feels like extra gimmicky stuff. stuff that while others may appreciate, I FIND no use for
 
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