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A Honda salesperson once told me that if Honda see you selling more than 7 cars to the same person or entity they come asking questions. We know Honda has an aversion to fleet sales (which is great for resale),so how do Hondas end up in rental fleets?
http://www.hertzcarsales.com/Search?pageSize=10&pageNumber=1&Distance=100mi&Makes=Honda&PostalCode=75201&#!&Makes=Honda&Distance=500mi&PostalCode=78633&pageNumber=1&pageSize=10&Models=Civic &Trims=LX
A good reason why Honda avoids fleet, a Hertz Honda Civic sells about $1200 more than a larger Hertz Nissan Altima with the same miles......Booyah!
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DrWhiner
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Chevrolet 165
Dodge 19
Ford 134
GMC 3
Honda 22
Infinit 24
Jeep 69
Mazda 410
Mercury 9
Mitsubishi 22
Nissan 1165
Toyots 445
VW 6
Surprise, surprise...?
1st place: Nissan+Infiniti
runner-up: Toyota
3rd place: Mazda
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BachelorFrog
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Found this the other day on IL website.
Break down of total sales and fleet/rental sales.
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longhorn
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Good points, but again, how do Hondas in up in the rental fleets in the first place.?
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gogzy
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probably, as long as they buy less than 7? a few independent car rental shop in my area has 1 or 2 Honda on the lot. some of these Honda car on the lot are not current model, maybe form used market?
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RollTideRoll
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Well, my first post will be a informative one. I used to work for Hertz at an airport location. We would rarely have Hondas and when we did they were usually 2 years old and base models with almost no options. I noticed they always had 1398 unit number prefixes which designated they came from FL. From asking around I found that they were usually off lease cars that sometimes off airport locations would get a deal to buy a few, especially if they had a service contract (being your car in for service, get a Hertz rental) with that dealership. It used to bug me because I was a manager and got to take a car home at the end of the day. I really wanted to compare the CRV to the Escape as we had plenty of Fords and Chevys but never really got the chance. But anyways, if you ever get a Honda as a rental it is probably a few years old and it will definately have no options. But they are rare, to put it into prosepective I would get deliveries of new GMs, Nissans and Toyotas straight from the facotry with protective wrap all on them loaded up on a transport truck. Never saw that with a Honda.
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giltibo
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Many dealerships deal with rental companies for courtesy / rental / replacement cars... including Honda dealerships. That, in part, explains the presence of Hondas in rental fleets. (But there aren't many...)
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according2kev
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RollTideRoll wrote:
Well, my first post will be a informative one. I used to work for Hertz at an airport location. We would rarely have Hondas and when we did they were usually 2 years old and base models with almost no options.
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This makes sense. While I could have passed some on the road unknowingly, I've only seen 3 Honda rentals. Contrary to what you say is the usual, two were surprisingly EX V6 Accords (mmc 7th gen). I also had a coworker who received an 8th gen Civic LX while her Corolla was in the shop. I remember her saying "I'm going to hate to giving this car back."
BTW, welcome to TOV.
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TonyEX
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BachelorFrog wrote:
Found this the other day on IL website.
Break down of total sales and fleet/rental sales.
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Just because a car gets sold through the Fleet Manager doesn't mean it's a real "fleet sale".
My old Credit Union used to offer a car buying service through the Fleet Sales Department at a dealer. In essence, they pre-negotiated a price and then you went and complete the transaction with the Fleet Sales Manager.
Also, some private employers might be buying cars for their employees or their own use and as such they'd go through the Fleet Dept.
I doubt anyone major rental companies are buying Honda Accords... 0.9% simply does not carry any economies of scale.
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Gfn8r
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TonyE wrote:
BachelorFrog wrote:
Found this the other day on IL website.
Break down of total sales and fleet/rental sales.
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Just because a car gets sold through the Fleet Manager doesn't mean it's a real "fleet sale".
My old Credit Union used to offer a car buying service through the Fleet Sales Department at a dealer. In essence, they pre-negotiated a price and then you went and complete the transaction with the Fleet Sales Manager.
Also, some private employers might be buying cars for their employees or their own use and as such they'd go through the Fleet Dept.
I doubt anyone major rental companies are buying Honda Accords... 0.9% simply does not carry any economies of scale.
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I've bought my last two Hondas from a local automotive broker--he can get any car available for a couple hundred bucks over invoice by going through the fleet manager. No negotiations, no muss, no fuss. (Well, the last time, the dealer insisted that I have a sit-down with their F & I person, but at the advice of the broker I went in there with a little attitude, and had no trouble; he started using another local dealer for Hondas soon after.)
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RAdams
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giltibo wrote:
Many dealerships deal with rental companies for courtesy / rental / replacement cars... including Honda dealerships. That, in part, explains the presence of Hondas in rental fleets. (But there aren't many...)
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This is what I've seen as well. My Honda dealer has a Hertz "Local Edition" office located on-site and they're loaded up with Civics and Accords. I've had Civic and Accord LX's mainly, as well as an Accord EX on one occasion.
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Karl O.
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Automotive News had a fleet % chart for all the manufacturers but I tossed the paper and I can't find it with their online search.
Honda basically has no fleet program, if you look at the numbers. So if they're on rental lots the companies are either paying MSRP (highly unlikely) or picking up off-lease cars or repos. And with used car prices as high as they are I don't see someone like AHFC dumping cheap off-lease cars into rental fleets, the cars are worth more to the dealers on their lots as CPOs.
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