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dootndo2
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2003 Accord V6 Sedan shuddering (Possible EDR Valve?)    (Score: 1, Normal) 04-29-2012 17:08
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We have been having an issue for some time. A CEL came on and the dealer determined that 2 of the cylinders were not firing due to bad ignition coils. Those were replaced.

The shuddering continues. We were told that the problem may be a sticking EDR valve which is inside the engine block.

Anyone else have any information on EDR valve?

Thanks in advance,

dootndo2
superchg2
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Re: 2003 Accord V6 Sedan shuddering (Possible EDR Valve?)    (Score: 1, Normal) 04-29-2012 17:31
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Maybe they meant EGR valve?
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Re: 2003 Accord V6 Sedan shuddering (Possible EDR Valve?)    (Score: 1, Normal) 04-29-2012 17:41
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dootndo2 wrote:
We have been having an issue for some time. A CEL came on and the dealer determined that 2 of the cylinders were not firing due to bad ignition coils. Those were replaced.

The shuddering continues. We were told that the problem may be a sticking EDR valve which is inside the engine block.

Anyone else have any information on EDR valve?

Thanks in advance,

dootndo2



first do this:
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Then this:

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Slawsk
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Re: 2003 Accord V6 Sedan shuddering (Possible EDR Valve?)    (Score: 1, Normal) 04-30-2012 00:43
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How many miles on the engine?

When was the timing belt last replaced?

When were the valves last adjusted? Spark plugs last replaced?

Does the shudder come only when cruising down the road at a steady RPM, or does it shudder all the time?

Does it shudder at a specific RPM or vehicle speed range (say between 28 and 40 mph), and does it stop if you take your foot off the gas and then put it back on?

Was any work done to the vehicle recently just before the shudder started?

Unfortunately, I doubt there were two bad coil packs to begin with. If there were, your engine would barely run, check engine light would be flashing and exhaust would smell excessively rich (strong). Idiot mechanics (myself included) replace ignition coil packs because the check engine code notes a specific cylinder it thinks is misfiring, but this is almost never correct.

I have a lot of experience with your engine and engine shuddering. I'd like to help you troubleshoot this.
dootndo2
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Re: 2003 Accord V6 Sedan shuddering (Possible EDR Valve?)    (Score: 1, Normal) 04-30-2012 11:24
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Slawsk wrote:
How many miles on the engine?

>>> 150,000 miles

When was the timing belt last replaced?


>>> @ 90,000

When were the valves last adjusted? Spark plugs last replaced?

>>> Spark plugs were replaced about 3 months ago when ignition coils were replaced (not sure if they replaced all 6)

Does the shudder come only when cruising down the road at a steady RPM, or does it shudder all the time?

>>> Steady RPM around 1800-2200 RPM

Does it shudder at a specific RPM or vehicle speed range (say between 28 and 40 mph), and does it stop if you take your foot off the gas and then put it back on?

>>> This is what the service guy said to check. I am not the primary driver, so when I drive it, I can test it.

Was any work done to the vehicle recently just before the shudder started?

>>> Not prior. The shuddering eventually caused a CEL on the dash. This is what caused us to get the ignition coils replaced. Cylinder 2 and 4 were not firing.

Unfortunately, I doubt there were two bad coil packs to begin with. If there were, your engine would barely run, check engine light would be flashing and exhaust would smell excessively rich (strong). Idiot mechanics (myself included) replace ignition coil packs because the check engine code notes a specific cylinder it thinks is misfiring, but this is almost never correct.

I have a lot of experience with your engine and engine shuddering. I'd like to help you troubleshoot this.

>>> OK. Hit me.



ballhog
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Re: 2003 Accord V6 Sedan shuddering (Possible EDR Valve?)    (Score: 1, Normal) 04-30-2012 19:53
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I have a 2003 Accord 4 cylinder and had a problem with the car shuddering when I cruise around 40mph. I replaced the engine belt and the shuddering went away. Maybe check that if it's been awhile since you replaced it. I had a 2002 Odyssey and the EGR valve had to be replaced because at highway speeds, sometimes the engine misses and it feels like the car shifted into neutral for a few seconds. No shuddering from that...just an uneasy feeling of not having control of the car. Good luck.
 
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