Ugh, the fact that every review is going to mention the word "Civic" as much as this one... that's a hit to Acura right there, IMO. They start and end the review with "Civic." Not great for the luxury brand image.
Secondly, sounds like the "2.4 will have a better suspension than the Si" folks were dead wrong. If every model shares the same suspension settings, there goes that idea. There's no way the standard volume-seller 2.0 will have an overly sporty suspension, so what will that say for the front-heavier 2.4? No GSR-equivalent Si-killer, that's for sure.
Potenza wrote: Ugh, the fact that every review is going to mention the word "Civic" as much as this one... that's a hit to Acura right there, IMO. They start and end the review with "Civic." Not great for the luxury brand image.
Secondly, sounds like the "2.4 will have a better suspension than the Si" folks were dead wrong. If every model shares the same suspension settings, there goes that idea. There's no way the standard volume-seller 2.0 will have an overly sporty suspension, so what will that say for the front-heavier 2.4? No GSR-equivalent Si-killer, that's for sure.
The Civic mention is expected, and I'm dying to know how the car differentiates itself from the lesser sibling. It's a good point to bring up anyway, everybody knows this car is based on the Civic chassis, so why hide it? If people are convinced this is not CSX 2.0 it will sell.
Wait, I thought Jeff posted in his article about ILX pricing that all driving impressions of the ILX are embargoed until April 20. Isn't this guy going to catch a lot of flak for posting a "First Drive" review before the embargo is lifted?
That was a nice engine growl in there, and the guy actually laughed, like he was having a great time, imagine that! If he thinks it drives and rides like a baby Benz, it must be pretty good, right?
Hey does the 2.4L come with a LSD? I don't recall seeing it mentioned which usually isn't a good thing. Given the suspension tuning, I'm betting it's gonna be MIA.
Unbelieveable!!! Almost speechless at this glaring omission! Honda is on a coup to make me buy something other than a Honda or Acura for my next car!
Powertrain used to be the reason why you bought a Honda/Acura (great engines, class leading power, wonderful gearboxes), now nothing really innovative or class leading, certainly nothing like the days when a GS-R was about as fast as Mustang GT (mid 90's).
I guess the original Acura mantra of 'Precision crafted performance' is gone, long gone now. Sad.
Just walked in the door after spending 8.5 hours with a black 2.4 6MT. Pretty great!
While there is an embargo on DRIVING impressions we are able to post design and touchpoint opinions, along with photos and video. Jeff just got on his plane so it may be a day or so as we both have some immediate duties of our own to dispatch.
For now I'll say it was a positive experience with the 2.4 and a crystal white RDX AWD.
Ok, let me see if I have this right. The guy in the YouTube video says he is not allowed to talk about how it drives,
BUT
He then goes on to say the vehicle feels "buttoned down" and compared it to BMW. To anyone who pays attention to cars, the implication is obvious: The ILX corners fairly flatly, but still has great ride quality. LOL.
Neal wrote: Just walked in the door after spending 8.5 hours with a black 2.4 6MT. Pretty great!
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For now I'll say it was a positive experience with the 2.4 and a crystal white RDX AWD.
Thanks! I'm actually happy just knowing that Acura FINALLY delivered more vehicles that got good responses from people. It's been way too long since the last time (probably since the '07 MDX, with a little bit of encouragement via the TSX Wagon). I'm patient enough to wait for the details.
atomiclightbulb wrote: Ok, let me see if I have this right. The guy in the YouTube video says he is not allowed to talk about how it drives,
BUT
He then goes on to say the vehicle feels "buttoned down" and compared it to BMW. To anyone who pays attention to cars, the implication is obvious: The ILX corners fairly flatly, but still has great ride quality. LOL.
Neal wrote: Just walked in the door after spending 8.5 hours with a black 2.4 6MT. Pretty great!
...
For now I'll say it was a positive experience with the 2.4 and a crystal white RDX AWD.
Thanks! I'm actually happy just knowing that Acura FINALLY delivered more vehicles that got good responses from people. It's been way too long since the last time (probably since the '07 MDX, with a little bit of encouragement via the TSX Wagon). I'm patient enough to wait for the details.
This doesn't surprise me, specially when he noted the cars have the same suspension.
The TSX/Euro Accord in R20 or K24 versions get the same too. We all know how well the TSX drives.
Also he mentioned the A3 and the ct200 so if ILX is in between it sounds like a nice drive.
danielavg1991 wrote: Just noticed he said Acura said it would get 35 mpg on the highway... i thought the number was 32?
Acura revised the EPA #'s. They are higher than before.
24/35/28 for the 2.0L
22/31/35 for the 2.4L
39/38/38 for the Hybrid
They probably hadn't finished the ECU firmware when the original specs were put up. My guess is that they lowballed the initial figures to be safe, although I think they should never have posted figures until they were sure. What they originally posted made the drivetrains look pretty miserable.
danielavg1991 wrote: Just noticed he said Acura said it would get 35 mpg on the highway... i thought the number was 32?
Acura revised the EPA #'s. They are higher than before.
24/35/28 for the 2.0L
22/31/35 for the 2.4L
39/38/38 for the Hybrid
They probably hadn't finished the ECU firmware when the original specs were put up. My guess is that they lowballed the initial figures to be safe, although I think they should never have posted figures until they were sure. What they originally posted made the drivetrains look pretty miserable.
auto_enthu wrote: The person in the video says, "it almost feels like a baby BMW".... wow seriously that's a BIG compliment.
I don't think he would say that unless it really has great handling and an excellent steering feel.
I noticed that too... I wonder if the baby BMW comment is aimed at the interior or the driving experience. I think he said "it feels like baby BMW"... Dunno, I'm driving, so I can't watch the video again.
auto_enthu wrote: The person in the video says, "it almost feels like a baby BMW".... wow seriously that's a BIG compliment.
I don't think he would say that unless it really has great handling and an excellent steering feel.
I noticed that too... I wonder if the baby BMW comment is aimed at the interior or the driving experience. I think he said "it feels like baby BMW"... Dunno, I'm driving, so I can't watch the video again.
Since BMW is never known for its interior, I don't think he was referring to interior when he referred to "baby BMW". I think he is most likely referring to handling and/or steering feel .... atleast hoping so.
Probably trying to low-ball so they won't get sued again by some witch-hunting hybrid owner seeking tens of thousands of dollars 'damage' for getting the mileage the EPA sticker indicated.
atomiclightbulb wrote:
danielavg1991 wrote: Just noticed he said Acura said it would get 35 mpg on the highway... i thought the number was 32?
Acura revised the EPA #'s. They are higher than before.
24/35/28 for the 2.0L
22/31/35 for the 2.4L
39/38/38 for the Hybrid
They probably hadn't finished the ECU firmware when the original specs were put up. My guess is that they lowballed the initial figures to be safe, although I think they should never have posted figures until they were sure. What they originally posted made the drivetrains look pretty miserable.
auto_enthu wrote: The person in the video says, "it almost feels like a baby BMW".... wow seriously that's a BIG compliment.
I don't think he would say that unless it really has great handling and an excellent steering feel.
I noticed that too... I wonder if the baby BMW comment is aimed at the interior or the driving experience. I think he said "it feels like baby BMW"... Dunno, I'm driving, so I can't watch the video again.
Since BMW is never known for its interior, I don't think he was referring to interior when he referred to "baby BMW". I think he is most likely referring to handling and/or steering feel .... atleast hoping so.
I walked around a new RDX in white at my local Acura dealer. They had it there to teach the sales people about it. I'd say the design is perfect. Grill is acceptable in the power plenum world we live in. Still waiting for the post-power plenum world though.
If anyone's shopping a CR-V and has extra cash. Go check out the RDX. It should be worth the extra cost.
So why buy the ILX 2.4L? There is one reason, but it doesn’t exist yet.
Acura will reportedly move the TSX further up-market and based on the brand’s new strategy (as we’ve seen with the 2013 RDX) is all-but certain to mix more water into the proverbial orange drink. By comparison to that car, the ILX will then look like a good sporting option. And cars like the current TSX will be relegated to the Honda museum – a place that, not coincidentally, also seems to be where Honda now keeps its soul.
Until your options are limited to the car dealership equivalent of Sophie’s Choice, the ILX 2.4-liter is a car that’s worse than redundant, it’s irrelevant.
While many have left the compact premium segment in recent years, with the demise of cars like the Volvo S40, much of what is left or has been introduced is limited to niche segments; being hatchbacks, hybrids or rear-drive coupes. That said, Acura has a huge opportunity to make premium compacts a mainstream category.
The Buick Verano is now competing in the same space, but Acura has an advantage thanks to its history in the segment and a brand image that doesn’t scare younger buyers. Notably more expensive than the Verano, sitting in the ILX will convince you it’s worth it.
2013 Acura ILX 2.0L Rear Right
A well-rounded car, the ILX offers luxury for less and is certain to also deliver brand qualities like reliability and durability. What is lacking, however, is a more engaging driving experience, once a hallmark of Acura vehicles.
The car’s strongest feature, and the one that will get consumers into Acura dealerships is something luxury buyers crave – choice. Along with the attraction of driving luxury for under $30K, unlike any of its rivals the ILX offers the ability to pick a conventional gasoline option, a performance version and a hybrid all in a sensible and stylish 4-door package.
Probably the most impressive thing about the 2013 Acura ILX is how it rides. Mind you, we're only speaking for Arizona highways, which seem to get more love from the state coffers than our California roads. But there's a new level of compliance here, and it doesn't come at the expense of control over bumps and ruts. It's also a quiet ride, as the ILX has all sorts of noise-reduction measures not found on the Civic, including laminated glass and active noise cancellation (via the audio system).
...."the ILX offers the ability to pick a conventional gasoline option, a performance version and a hybrid all in a sensible and stylish 4-door package."
What performance version of the ILX are they referring to? The 2.4? LOL. Riiiiiight.
...."the ILX offers the ability to pick a conventional gasoline option, a performance version and a hybrid all in a sensible and stylish 4-door package."
What performance version of the ILX are they referring to? The 2.4? LOL. Riiiiiight.
Yes, the 2.4 ILX is a performance version. You can get it in a 6 speed, and it does have significantly more performance than the other two models. It may not have the pace of some BMWs or whatever, but Honda can call it a performance model if they wish. So it doesn't meet your criteria for a performance model? Fine, point noted, now move on - nothing of interest for you to see here :)