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Enjoy Your Overpriced Civics! [View News Item]    (Score: 1, Normal) 04-20-2012 18:11
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adrianchew wrote:
Uh, the ILX looks much like a Jetta. You may not like the comparison, but that is what it looks like.


That's your opinion, which I don't share. Starting from the rear, the tail lights look nothing alike. The ILX's rear deck is also much shorter, while the Jetta's C-pillar and trunk are more traditional in proportions. Jetta has the classic Hoffmeister kink, while the ILX's is pushed upward and does not align with the rear door. Moving to the main side of the greenhouse, the ILX appears more compressed, while the Jetta is more upright. The character line in the ILX follows the door handles and sweeps up to form shoulders beneath the C-pillar. The Jetta's line is pretty much straight from the front to the trunk. Headlights do not look the same. ILX is more angular and compressed with projectors. Jetta has a tall headlight cluster with reflectors.

In the proportions and details, I don't see many similarities. The Jetta is much more "traditional", almost like a 6G Accord sedan.

You're not suggesting the ILX has really good sheetmetal I hope?


I think it's great.

Cars aren't phones though, spec sheets do matter to gearheads.

The ILX is a failure here, as far as attracting old Integra/RSX owners back to Acura ownership. But then again, we already know that the management has decided this crowd isn't worth it... even though its just plain stupid business sense to disregard past owners.


This is a car aimed at the mainstream consumer, the vast majority of whom are not gearheads.

Jon Ikeda himself said this car was no "boy racer". It was NEVER intended to be a follow-on to the Integra or RSX. It is not reasonable to say the car is a failure because it doesn't appeal to the Integra/RSX crowd, when this was not ever in Acura's plan.

If they had made the value side a bit better, it might stand a decent chance, but certainly not with the R20.


The marketplace is changing. Just ask HONDA AFVM or any of the dealers here... most of their younger buyers do not prioritize powertrain. Most of the new buyers simply do not care that much:

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/03/23/business/media/to-draw-reluctant-young-buyers-gm-turns-to-mtv.html?pagewanted=all

"many young consumers today just do not care that much about cars.

That is a major shift from the days when the car stood at the center of youth culture and wheels served as the ultimate gateway to freedom and independence."

Plus an exposed tailpipe is another design statement... cars tend to play this design aspect, not hide it away.


Well, we can agree on one thing. The 2.4L needs a nice chrome exhaust tip.


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04-20-2012 11:58
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adrianchew
04-20-2012 12:18
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04-20-2012 12:26
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04-20-2012 12:46
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04-21-2012 20:24
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04-22-2012 10:49
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atomiclightbulb
04-20-2012 13:03
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04-20-2012 13:29
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04-20-2012 13:42
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04-20-2012 13:45
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04-22-2012 23:58
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04-23-2012 00:07
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04-23-2012 00:15
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04-20-2012 14:24
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04-20-2012 14:48
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04-20-2012 14:59
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04-20-2012 15:11
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04-20-2012 16:07
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04-20-2012 15:13
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04-20-2012 15:53
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04-20-2012 15:59
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04-20-2012 16:20
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04-20-2012 16:38
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atomiclightbulb
04-20-2012 17:53
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04-20-2012 22:00
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04-21-2012 02:58
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04-21-2012 09:16
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04-21-2012 10:53
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04-22-2012 20:45
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04-23-2012 01:20
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04-23-2012 23:40
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04-20-2012 16:20
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04-20-2012 16:44
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04-20-2012 16:53
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04-20-2012 17:32
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04-20-2012 16:48
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04-20-2012 17:33
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04-20-2012 17:49
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04-20-2012 18:56
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04-20-2012 19:14
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04-20-2012 22:38
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04-21-2012 21:00
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