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Ganplosive
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Didn't the Acura TL's have an outsourced transmission? That was a very well documented problem across the internet especially acurazine.
In all honestly I do feel like the ILX should be playing in the 6 territory, but I'm ok with a time-tested 5 speed. Plus the comparison was against a GM, so I suppose the transmission is a moot point since many other things could've been prepared
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Vinnyboss
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Hondarulez wrote:
Vinnyboss wrote:
in Canada...this car is waaaayyy over priced. 30K for a car that does not offer enough horsepower or interior cabin space. The styling is personal preference....however at that price range so many more options.....
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There's a thread that talks about Canadian pricing.
The $30k is the ILX premium model in Canada. Its closest competitor is probably the Buick Verano, which starts at $22.6k in Canada. However, to match the ILX in features, you will need to start with the Verano with Leather Package, which is $27.6k. For me, I like the white pearl color, that is $1k extra. The power moonroof, which is a standard feature on the base ILX, costs extra money in the Verano, even with the leather package. That's another $1.1k. The total before destination charge would be just under $30k, or the same as the ILX. Even if you take out the white pearl paint, it will still be $29k, not a whole lot cheaper than the ILX. I also believe the Verano does not have HID, not even as an option. That is easily another $500 - $1k usually. I'm also not sure if the Verano has things like multi-view rear camera and active noise cancellation, which can be found in the ILX.
One might argue that the Verano has 30 more hp and lbft of torque, as well as 6AT, but the ILX is 500lb lighter and has better EPA ratings. There's also the ILX 2.4 for $30k and that is much faster than the Verano. Also, one must factor in reliability and resale value.
One of the reasons to get an ILX is to have the same or higher level of comfort and features as the Accord at the same price win a compact size vehicle. If you feel that you need more power for the AT version and more interior space, then the ILX isn't your car. You are simply looking at the wrong car. For instance, you don't look at an Accord, and complain that it doesn't handle like a Scion FR-S and doesn't feel as nimble.
A similarly loaded Focus Titanium is $27k and a similarly loaded Mazda3 GT is $29k for comparison.
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Your right...I was looking at this car...but once the power train and interior cabin space came out, I lost interest. For my wants and needs the GLI autobahn satisfies me from so many perspectives.
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NealX
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atomiclightbulb wrote:
CarPhreakD wrote:
The proportions are different? Not really, they lost the steep rake and the interior is more conventional. They tried to lengthen the hood. But it still looks like a FWD Civic sedan. Compare this transformation to that between the 7th gen Civic and the RSX, or even the 6th gen Civic to the Acura Integra. |
1999-2000 6th Gen Civic Sedan:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:1999-00_Honda_Civic_Sedan.jpg
1998-2001 Acura Integra Sedan:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:3rd-Acura-Integra-sedan.jpg
I really do not think that Acura vehicles "looked" that much different from their Honda counterparts back then.
Even the Legend, which I hold in high regard, clearly had "Honda" design language that was not terribly different than Accord.
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Could it be because they were ALL Hondas everywhere else in the world? ;-)
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Kulgan
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Ganplosive wrote:
Didn't the Acura TL's have an outsourced transmission? That was a very well documented problem across the internet especially acurazine.
In all honestly I do feel like the ILX should be playing in the 6 territory, but I'm ok with a time-tested 5 speed. Plus the comparison was against a GM, so I suppose the transmission is a moot point since many other things could've been prepared
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Nope the tls tranny is essentially the same 2 shaft tranny as the 2003-2005 accords. All built in house
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Hondarulez
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Kulgan wrote:
Ganplosive wrote:
Didn't the Acura TL's have an outsourced transmission? That was a very well documented problem across the internet especially acurazine.
In all honestly I do feel like the ILX should be playing in the 6 territory, but I'm ok with a time-tested 5 speed. Plus the comparison was against a GM, so I suppose the transmission is a moot point since many other things could've been prepared
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Nope the tls tranny is essentially the same 2 shaft tranny as the 2003-2005 accords. All built in house
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I think it's designed in-house. Some parts were outsourced though. Certain parts were not up to spec and are causing problems. As mentioned by ganplosive, you can search for this in acurazine.
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