CB77
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(From today's HondaWeb)
New LaneWatchTM, Forward Collision and Lane Departure warning systems part of 360-degree approach to visibility technologies
APR. 10 - Honda is taking a comprehensive approach to enhancing driver visibility and confidence on the road beginning with the widespread application of rearview cameras on 2013 models. Over 94 percent of Honda's 2013 model lineup1 will be equipped with rearview cameras, with 100 percent of Honda's truck lineup (Crosstour, CR-V, Odyssey, Pilot, Ridgeline) as well as CR-Z, Accord and Crosstour providing rearview cameras as standard equipment. In addition to the wide application of the rear-view camera technology, Honda is also introducing several new features for enhanced driver safety, visibility and security in model-year 2013.
Rearview cameras are just one aspect of Honda's comprehensive 360-degree approach to technologies designed to enhance a driver's visibility, demonstrated by a host of features available on 2013 Honda models. Safety technologies such as Honda's new Forward Collision Warning (FCW) and Lane Departure Warning (LDW) systems will be available on the 2013 Honda Accord and Crosstour. Both systems use a camera mounted behind the windshield to warn drivers of a potential collision in front of them or to alert drivers if the car is unexpectedly moving out of its lane.
Other Honda features aimed at improving driver visibility are the Expanded View Driver's Mirror -- already standard equipment on the 2012 Honda CR-V -- and the Honda-exclusive LaneWatchTM blind-spot display. LaneWatch uses a camera mounted on the passenger mirror to provide an enhanced view of the passenger-side roadway. This unique technology will debut on the 2013 Accord followed by the 2013 Crosstour.
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A77
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All fine and dandy - just can't help but think - "warn drivers of a potential collision in front of them" aka like to drive with your eyes shut - no problem....'if the car is "unexpectedly" moving out if its lane'. Who didn't expect it to? The driver? ditto eyes closed. All this money being spent trying to compensate for truly incompetent driving. It's like the actual element of needing to drive in a safe alert manner is slowly being made unnecessary. Not that i am against the likes of airbags, VSA and so many other active and passive safety features, but isnt this getting a little ridiculous. It's not just Honda I know.
The back up camera requirement has partly become necessary due to the constant worsening of visibility due to thicker/stronger pillars. But regardless of that they are still a good safety feature as certain areas are always going to be invisible behind the car/truck.
Most of the alleged blindspot can be removed by proper mirror adjustment.
http://www.popularmechanics.com/cars/how-to/4234574
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cforez
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I get a lot of use out of the rear view camera on my Odyssey.
The wide & down modes that come with the navi was a pleasant surprise. Say your parked with SUVs on both sides and you can't see if anyone is coming before you back out. Switch to wide mode, and problem solved. The down mode works great to see if the Odyssey is completely in the garage before I turn off the engine.
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Waldo
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cforez wrote:
The down mode works great to see if the Odyssey is completely in the garage before I turn off the engine.
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Even better low tech solution: string a tennis ball from the garage ceiling to touch the windshield where you want to stop.
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cforez
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A tennis ball can't give you turn-by-turn directions, ETAs, traffic conditions, and higher quality sound though... :)
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Trip
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A77 wrote:
... All this money being spent trying to compensate for truly incompetent driving. It's like the actual element of needing to drive in a safe alert manner is slowly being made unnecessary. Not that i am against the likes of airbags, VSA and so many other active and passive safety features, but isnt this getting a little ridiculous. It's not just Honda I know.
The back up camera requirement has partly become necessary due to the constant worsening of visibility due to thicker/stronger pillars. But regardless of that they are still a good safety feature as certain areas are always going to be invisible behind the car/truck.
Most of the alleged blindspot can be removed by proper mirror adjustment.
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TonyEX
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I love watching people as I run them down backing out... Worthy of America's Funniest Videos... ;-)
But seriously, the back up cameras I've had ( have) are based on the NAVI screen. Does this mean that all vehicles will come with NAVI or is the display going onto the new MID?
I doubt back up cameras will go into the Fit, huh?
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Trip
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(From today's HondaWeb)
LaneWatch uses a camera mounted on the passenger mirror to provide an enhanced view of the passenger-side roadway. This unique technology will debut on the 2013 Accord followed by the 2013 Crosstour.
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So what's the advantage of a passenger side only camera versus radar based blind spot monitoring for both sides of the car? The BSM seems to be a better, more comprehensive solution. And, it be used to assist backing up out of parking spaces. Ford's system, for example, will warn if anything is approaching the rear of the car as you reverse out of a parking space. Uses the same hardware the BSM does.
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aznxthuggie
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or they can just install reverse sensors which are much more effective?
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$mooth
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TonyE wrote:
I love watching people as I run them down backing out... Worthy of America's Funniest Videos... ;-)
But seriously, the back up cameras I've had ( have) are based on the NAVI screen. Does this mean that all vehicles will come with NAVI or is the display going onto the new MID?
I doubt back up cameras will go into the Fit, huh?
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The 2012 Pilot without Navi already puts the back-up camera on the MID. It's actually a really good picture on a good size screen.
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ldvknight
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The Navi screen on the Honda Pilot appears on the Rear View mirror.
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ldvknight
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ldvknight wrote:
The Navi screen on the Honda Pilot appears on the Rear View mirror.
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I meant the rear camera displays on the rear view mirror when you shift into reverse.
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$mooth
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Negative. Not since they added the MID for the MMC.
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$mooth
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And if you don't believe me from driving a 2012 Pilot.
From the Specifications page on the Honda website Pilot (EX-L without Navi):
i-MID with 8-Inch WQVGA (480x320) Screen, Customizable Wallpaper Settings and Rearview Camera with Guidelines
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Waldo
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cforez wrote:
A tennis ball can't give you turn-by-turn directions, ETAs, traffic conditions, and higher quality sound though... :)
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I must have a smaller garage than you. I have no need for "turn-by-turn directions, ETAs, [and] traffic conditions" in my garage. However I will give some thought to the advantage of garage based higher quality sound. :-)
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DrWhiner
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Trip wrote:
A77 wrote:
... All this money being spent trying to compensate for truly incompetent driving. It's like the actual element of needing to drive in a safe alert manner is slowly being made unnecessary. Not that i am against the likes of airbags, VSA and so many other active and passive safety features, but isnt this getting a little ridiculous. It's not just Honda I know.
The back up camera requirement has partly become necessary due to the constant worsening of visibility due to thicker/stronger pillars. But regardless of that they are still a good safety feature as certain areas are always going to be invisible behind the car/truck.
Most of the alleged blindspot can be removed by proper mirror adjustment.
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Not that long ago, in RDX forum:
"The technology package is a joke. Stuff like that are already available on Hyundais. That stuff is just common equipment.
I'm curious why Acura is still holding off on offering really technologically advanced features like Blind Spot assist, CMBS, or all around camera systems. That's technology."
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