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Idle stop? [View News Item]    (Score: 1, Normal) 03-08-2012 22:40
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HONDA AFVM wrote:
Jeff wrote:
HONDA AFVM wrote:
No mention if the A/C is electric and will continue to function when the Idle stop engages???? It would kind of suck if the A/C is like that in the CRZ and Insight........Stops working.......


yeah it's going to stop working. this is a normal petrol engine with no electric assist. it's just like automatically twisting the ignition off when you roll to a stop and then firing the engine back on when you're ready to go. As I understand it, this is how most of the non-Hybrid idle-stop cars work in Europe. That means it's also more of a jarring type of start as opposed to the nearly seamless auto-start you get with IMA hybrids.


No thanks.....I see no reason for a small 2kWh pack that can run the A/C. Electric A/C is more efficient, less weight and not that much more expensive in the long run.........



Right, but the main thing that some automakers are leery of are the failure modes. If you have a mechanical water pump/AC unit and it "fails", you still at least get a bit of an effect from both because they're forced to run.

If an electric pump or AC fails, you're SOL, because they simply stop working. AC isn't such a big deal, but the main thing to be leery about is non-functioning electric water pump. Most companies that employ electric water pumps use one or two main ones, and a few auxiliary ones (i.e. the afterrun pump for turbocharged engines), and the engine is designed to go into limp mode when one of the main pumps fail.
Date Subject Author
03-07-2012 11:23 Idle stop?   (Score: 1, Normal) HONDA AFVM
03-07-2012 12:57 Potenza
03-07-2012 13:19 HONDA AFVM
03-07-2012 17:06 P54
03-07-2012 17:30 P54
03-07-2012 20:16 CarPhreakD
03-08-2012 02:07 montechester
03-08-2012 11:55 Potenza
03-07-2012 16:16 JeffX
03-07-2012 22:35 HONDA AFVM
03-08-2012 22:40
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CarPhreakD
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