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Acura Elevates Wagon with Sporty Classy TSX
That little engine, however, did provide some good fuel economy. According to Acura, the TSX wagon gets 22 mpg in the city and 30 mpg on the highway — 1 mpg better in both categories than the TSX sedan with a manual transmission. While that mathematically comes out to an overall average of 25 mpg, I managed 28 mpg with a mix of city and highway driving. Rarely do I beat the combined number. I'm just not that kind of driver.
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This review is by the Detroit News reviewer, Scott Burgess, who was fired/re-hired about a month ago for providing an honest assessment re: the Chrysler 200.
He had very kind things to say about the TSX wagon and if you read his other reviews he's pretty much on the money with the rest of his opinions too.
TSX69 wrote:
Acura Elevates Wagon with Sporty Classy TSX
That little engine, however, did provide some good fuel economy. According to Acura, the TSX wagon gets 22 mpg in the city and 30 mpg on the highway — 1 mpg better in both categories than the TSX sedan with a manual transmission. While that mathematically comes out to an overall average of 25 mpg, I managed 28 mpg with a mix of city and highway driving. Rarely do I beat the combined number. I'm just not that kind of driver.
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AutoWeek: Drivers Log
The 2.4-liter is the best four-cylinder on the market, in my opinion. It's smooth, loves to rev and has sensational throttle response. Of course, more power would always be welcome, but at no time did I find myself thinking that the car felt slow and underpowered. However, here's where I have to shed a few tears. The slick six-speed manual transmission is unfortunately not offered on the wagon model. Instead, the five-speed automatic is the only transmission choice, which operates just fine with quick and crisp shifts and is entertaining with a good manual mode, but it's still a downer for drivers. I do understand Acura's reasoning behind not offering it, as sales would certainly be quite low for a clutch-pedal-equipped TSX wagon.
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TSX69
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2011 Acura TSX Sport Wagon: Car Seat Check
For the Car Seat Check, we use a Graco SnugRide 30 rear-facing infant-safety seat, a Britax Roundabout convertible child-safety seat and Graco high-back TurboBooster seat. The front seats are adjusted to a comfortable position for a 6-foot driver and a 5-foot-8 passenger. The three child seats are installed in the second row. The booster seat sits behind the driver’s seat, and the infant seat and convertible seats are installed behind the passenger seat. We also install the infant seat in the second row’s middle seat with the booster and convertible in the outboard seats to see if three car seats will fit. If there’s a third row, we install the booster seat and a forward-facing convertible.
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TSX69
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Scott Wasser: Going back to the future in Acura TSX wagon
I have no clue how my brain works, but in this case I'm pretty sure the TSX Sport Wagon's stunning styling triggered my memories. Cadillac CTS Sport Wagon fans might disagree, but I think the TSX is the first vehicle that looks better as a wagon than a sedan.
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TSX69
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Do Americans Still Want a Wagon?
Who should consider this vehicle
The formula isn't inventive; take a successful sedan, stretch it and add a hatch. The 2011 Acura TSX Sport Wagon can serve multiple masters, ranging from the couple who rides mountain bikes on the weekend or the busy parent shuttling between soccer and piano lessons to the animal rescue volunteer taking a Great Dane down to the bark park. Anyone who covets civility and versatility — with occasional inspiration to hammer the throttle on two-lanes — will consider the TSX Sport Wagon money well spent.
But the TSX also competes in an inscrutable segment. Americans tend to like wagons of the German sporting persuasion, or those that evoke domestic muscle like the late, lamented Dodge Magnum. Japanese wagons haven't enjoyed much success since Honda dropped its Accord variant back in the mid-1990s. To attract enthusiast buyers to the TSX, Acura might need to offer its turbo four-cylinder or even a V6 matched to all-wheel drive.
Then again, if you're looking for a slightly more useful sedan — especially one that doesn't carry a penalty in fuel efficiency — then the 2011 Acura TSX Sport Wagon is a worthy consideration, one that might make Acura's gamble in a new market segment pay off.
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superchg
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TSX69, it doesn't seem like there has been a whole lot of interest in the TSX wagon articles you've been posting.
Are you planning on buying one?
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TSX69
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CarGuyDad: What It Is & What It Could Be
My idea of the more appealing and not much more expensive TSX Sport Wagon is this:
* Remove all chrome/silver trim from door-handles, fog-light bezels, and around windows. Chrome, or this polished metallic trim, has been out of style for decades now, so why is it on a Sport Wagon? Replace with black, gray or body color (as applicable).
* Remove the roof-rack and the visual weight that goes with it. I love the utility of a roof-rack but a vast majority of people will use it once a year to transport their Christmas tree. Make it an option or accessory. This would also reduce production and overall costs (one less part to make and install).
* Paint the grill in body color, and paint the trim around it in deviating dark gray.
Having done all that, it would be rather simple to add a few more elements of sporty appearance:
* Add larger, 18-inch (vs. 17-inch), wheels, also painted gray. I used ’07-’09 Acura TL Type S wheels in the graphic for the sake of simplicity and OEM appearance.
* Lower the car. I could not find any information of payload limits of the wagon vs. sedan but it is fair to assume that they are similar; therefore there are no tricks in designing the suspension to be able to accept additional weight. BMW installs air-suspension on their 5-series Tourings but there is no need for that here. Adjust spring rating and shock valving, done.
* Look carefully at the altered image and you will see the multi-piston calipers from the TL Type-S (and RL). Since those are already in the Honda parts bin, might as well throw them on our improved wagon. The three people who will actually autocross or track this wagon would appreciate them, while the rest would show them off on internet message boards and everyone would be happy, at a very low cost.
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superchg
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superchg wrote:
TSX69, it doesn't seem like there has been a whole lot of interest in the TSX wagon articles you've been posting.
Are you planning on buying one?
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+1
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TSX69 wrote:
superchg: honestly, I do not have much of an opinion on the TSX Sport Wagon bc I would never buy one (just not my type of vehicle). I will say, however, that I wish that they had left the pointy taillights alone as that is 1 of my favorite parts of the sedan.
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I posted a while ago that I had no interest in a wagon ... not that there is anything wrong w/ the vehicle just not my thing (currently).
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CanTex
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TSX69 wrote:
TSX69 wrote:
superchg: honestly, I do not have much of an opinion on the TSX Sport Wagon bc I would never buy one (just not my type of vehicle). I will say, however, that I wish that they had left the pointy taillights alone as that is 1 of my favorite parts of the sedan.
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I posted a while ago that I had no interest in a wagon ... not that there is anything wrong w/ the vehicle just not my thing (currently).
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A light-blue one pulled into my credit union's parking lot just as I was pulling in. Awful color, but the looks are stunning. It was the first one I had seen in the wild. I talked up the owner, and he had considered small SUVs, but was hooked on Hondas since his Civic in college. His two small kids and all their stuff fit the car nicely. I made his day by telling him how beautiful it was, even compared to my '10 sedan, parked a few spots away. I really made his day when I told him he really didn't have to run premium if he didn't want to.
The dealer tried to work him over on price because of the tsunami, but smart guy that he is, he checked the build date on the door frame and got the deal he wanted - the car was sitting in the dealer's lot when the tsunami hit. Also confirmed by the state inspection sticker date.
Sweet car. I hope it catches on.
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superchg
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CanTex wrote:
TSX69 wrote:
TSX69 wrote:
superchg: honestly, I do not have much of an opinion on the TSX Sport Wagon bc I would never buy one (just not my type of vehicle). I will say, however, that I wish that they had left the pointy taillights alone as that is 1 of my favorite parts of the sedan.
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I posted a while ago that I had no interest in a wagon ... not that there is anything wrong w/ the vehicle just not my thing (currently).
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A light-blue one pulled into my credit union's parking lot just as I was pulling in. Awful color, but the looks are stunning. It was the first one I had seen in the wild. I talked up the owner, and he had considered small SUVs, but was hooked on Hondas since his Civic in college. His two small kids and all their stuff fit the car nicely. I made his day by telling him how beautiful it was, even compared to my '10 sedan, parked a few spots away. I really made his day when I told him he really didn't have to run premium if he didn't want to.
The dealer tried to work him over on price because of the tsunami, but smart guy that he is, he checked the build date on the door frame and got the deal he wanted - the car was sitting in the dealer's lot when the tsunami hit. Also confirmed by the state inspection sticker date.
Sweet car. I hope it catches on.
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All they need to do is drop in the 3.7 liter 305 horse V-6, sh-awd, 6 speed drivetrain from the TL. Now we're talking!
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CanTex
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superchg wrote:
CanTex wrote:
TSX69 wrote:
TSX69 wrote:
superchg: honestly, I do not have much of an opinion on the TSX Sport Wagon bc I would never buy one (just not my type of vehicle). I will say, however, that I wish that they had left the pointy taillights alone as that is 1 of my favorite parts of the sedan.
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I posted a while ago that I had no interest in a wagon ... not that there is anything wrong w/ the vehicle just not my thing (currently).
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A light-blue one pulled into my credit union's parking lot just as I was pulling in. Awful color, but the looks are stunning. It was the first one I had seen in the wild. I talked up the owner, and he had considered small SUVs, but was hooked on Hondas since his Civic in college. His two small kids and all their stuff fit the car nicely. I made his day by telling him how beautiful it was, even compared to my '10 sedan, parked a few spots away. I really made his day when I told him he really didn't have to run premium if he didn't want to.
The dealer tried to work him over on price because of the tsunami, but smart guy that he is, he checked the build date on the door frame and got the deal he wanted - the car was sitting in the dealer's lot when the tsunami hit. Also confirmed by the state inspection sticker date.
Sweet car. I hope it catches on.
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All they need to do is drop in the 3.7 liter 305 horse V-6, sh-awd, 6 speed drivetrain from the TL. Now we're talking!
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That'd be nice, but I don't see that happening, considering the planned low volume and the fact they're Japanese made only for N.A. market. It makes one nostalgic for the old days when you could take an old junker and drop a 283 or 409 in there and have your hot rod. Can't do that anymore, I'm afraid.
In our case, I have no problems with the 4-cyl. "movin' on out" in normal traffic or passing situations. We were apprehensive about it because of the smooth "rush" we get with our Crosstour's V6, but the responsiveness is there and that little mill is eager to run. Plus with the 4-cyl., the balance of the car is spot-on.
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Let's keep it simple. Just bring over the 2011 Euro Accord Wagon Type-S package.
http://performancecarpartz.com/?p=205999
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frmr95tegraownr
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Let's just keep it simple. Just bring over the 2011 Euro Type-S package. It has the V6's alloys and the 6-speed manual)...
http://performancecarpartz.com/?p=205999
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TSX chalks up another win, from the New York Times:
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/06/19/automobiles/autoreviews/19WHEEL.html?_r=1&ref=automobiles
For years, when I’ve thought about cars I’d buy for myself, I’ve often homed in on the Volkswagen GTI, or dreamed of a used BMW M3. But with a young daughter at home, those thoughts have expanded to include roomier machines.
The TSX Sport Wagon is now officially on that list. This is the rare, do-everything family car that automakers are always going on about: handsome, practical, entertaining, technically advanced and fuel-efficient. Yet unlike, say, a Porsche Cayenne, its price is solidly mainstream. |
The reviewer managed to get 33 MPG on the highway.
He also believes that despite all its merits, "Americans will hate it". I'm not so sure I buy that just yet.
I saw a Silver TSX Wagon in Forged Silver Metallic on the road last week at a stop light. It's very nice looking vehicle. I watched the driver turn left, and the K24 sounds great when the throttle is punched :-D
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MotorTrend LongTerm UpDate
The Acura TSX Sport Wagon has been part of our long-term fleet for only four months, but in that time, it has acquired many admirers. "I'm smitten," says senior editor Jonny Lieberman. Editor at large Ron Kiino proclaims, "I love it." Assistant Art Director William Walker coolly states, "It's great," while associate online editor Nate Martinez has even grown to "admire this car massively."
So where is all this love coming from? TSX SW, how do we love thee? Let me count the ways:
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TSX69
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Edmunds Child Safety Seat Fitment Test
Well, there you have it. Overall, the TSX seems like it'll do fine as a family vehicle from a safety seat standpoint. But I'll really be putting our TSX Sport Wagon to the test in a couple days as I'll be loading my family for a Fourth of July road trip.
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LeftLaneNews
We applaud Acura’s decision to test the wagon waters with its TSX lineup. This once-conservative brand appears to be emerging from its shell, at least in North America. Acura says it doesn’t need to sell many TSX Sportwagons to break even, and with this relatively high value pricing structure, we don’t think they’ll struggle to meet their projections.
The TSX Sportwagon may not be the thrill machine M5 wagon enthusiasts want, but its everyday livability means that there is finally a low-compromise wagon that probably won’t bust your budget.
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MotorTrend Long Term Update 6
It seems the TSX will handle any car job well; airport run, weekend mountain-bike trip, grocery store haul, soccer practice shuttle, science fair project delivery vehicle, and just about anything else. I really don't have plans to have kids anytime soon but when I do, I think I've discovered the right tool for the job.
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TSX69 wrote:
MotorTrend Long Term Update 6
It seems the TSX will handle any car job well; airport run, weekend mountain-bike trip, grocery store haul, soccer practice shuttle, science fair project delivery vehicle, and just about anything else. I really don't have plans to have kids anytime soon but when I do, I think I've discovered the right tool for the job.
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Said it many times before, but anyway, let's make these my first thanks of 2012 to you TSX69 for truly building TOV's external links library !
Hope you keep doing it for many years to come !!!
Thanks !!!
Daniel
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Keep up the good work TSX69!
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Real shame it's an auto-only car....I really love wagons and this would be a great car for me, but without a manual transmission I'll never buy one.
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I've had one (Accord Euro Wagon) since 2008 - before condemning the auto tranny, you should try it - the paddle shift option allows you to red line it to 7k rev/min at will, or revert to normal auto, thus providing the best of both worlds. I think you'd be pleasantly surprised.
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Sasker
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mgoody wrote:
I've had one (Accord Euro Wagon) since 2008 - before condemning the auto tranny, you should try it - the paddle shift option allows you to red line it to 7k rev/min at will, or revert to normal auto, thus providing the best of both worlds. I think you'd be pleasantly surprised.
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Nothing substitutes the involvement of a real (= with clutch pedal) manual gearbox.
I am also hoping for a manual, fun wagon or hatch from Honda, but it seems that whoever Acura asks ("baby boomers" before and "gen y" now) only likes sedans and SUVs. How convenient for them.
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I pulled the trigger on a TSX Wagon yesterday after verifying my family of 4 with 2 car seats would fit. My Vortex Blue Tech TSX Wagon was built last week should arrive from Japan by end of February.
I've been considering everything under the Honda sun including the CRV, the Crosstour, even the TSX Sedan. The wagon won out for its combination of fun and practicality.
The CRV and TSX share some commonalities but the TSX definitely feels more tailored and a bit more upscale.
From the test drives I agree with the reviewers who said it reminds you of Hondas of old. It had good handling, great interior and was sporty without being over the top.
I've had a Prelude (1992) and 2 Honda Sedans (2003 and 2005) and the wagon reminds me the most of the Prelude.
We have an Odyssey for the long trips. I just wanted something with a little more utility to replace my 2005 Accord Hybrid.
Plus I love the looks of the wagon. The long roofline of wagons like the TSX and Audi wagons really appeal to me. The vortex blue color is stunning!
The wagon had a lot more emotional appeal to me than a CRV. I asked my wife to give me honest feedback that I was deluding myself that our family of 4 could fit in the wagon because I liked it so much. When she said yes, it works, I put a $500 deposit down that day to get the next Vortex Blue tech coming into the dealer.
Can't wait for the end of next month!
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If only they put a 6MT in that thing.... so frustrating.
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I agree - 6 MT wagon would be fun.
And now that I confirmed the family fits in the TSX body style, I am half tempted to just switch the order to a Milano Red TSX special edition with 6MT and save the cost of the tech package.
But the wife can drive this wagon with the automatic and I like the added utility of the wagon configuration for running errands etc.
This will be my third Japanese wagon!
My first was a Red 1979 Subaru wagon (5 MT!), then a Green 2001 Subaru Outback. Now a blue Acura wagon!
RGB! In that order no less!
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NoSpinZone wrote:
If only they put a 6MT in that thing.... so frustrating.
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And a LSD and sport suspension...
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NoSpinZone
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s2ktaxi,
Perfect!
My pants are getting tight...
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