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Authoritative Sources for the deniers! (Score: 1, Normal)

02-14-2012 17:39

Here's another reputable and authoritative source; this time from the Economist. Let's watch the "learned" deniers jump on this one! Could it be that our deniers are a menace to society, by confusing the un-educated? :)
http://www.economist.com/node/21533360
pjlk

P54

Re: Authoritative Sources for the deniers! (Score: 1, Normal)

02-14-2012 22:08

Too bad these people did not get a chance to experience the global warming:

The Global Warming Hoax is Now Killing People

http://www.familysecuritymatters.org/publications/id.11417/pub_detail.asp

Frozen continent! Europe's rivers, lakes and even seas are iced over as bitter Siberian cold leads to temperatures of almost -40C

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2100136/Europe-weather-Rivers-lakes-seas-iced-bitter-Siberian-cold-leads-temperatures-40C.html

Europe's Danube freezes over.
Death toll now 460 as forecast calls for -30 C temperatures

http://www.ottawacitizen.com/news/todays-paper/Europe+Danube+freezes+over/6130398/story.html

More than 500 dead as freeze grips Europe

http://tvnz.co.nz/world-news/more-than-500-dead-freeze-grips-europe-4717701

Frozen to death as fuel bills soar: Hypothermia cases among the elderly double in five years
1,876 patients treated for hypothermia in 2010/11
Hypothermia death toll within 30 days up from 135 to 260

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2100232/Frozen-death-fuel-bills-soar-Hypothermia-cases-elderly-double-years.html?ito=feeds-newsxml

The Global Warming Fraud: Showing Proof Positive That CO2 Is NOT A Greenhouse Gas!

http://northerntruthseeker.blogspot.com/2012/02/global-warming-fraud-showing-proof.html

The Global Warming Fraud: NASA Now Saying That Greenhouse Gases, And NOT The Sun (!) Drives Warming

http://northerntruthseeker.blogspot.com/2012/02/global-warming-fraud-nasa-now-saying.html

Is NASA in lack of funds?

Obama Administration Proposes Big Cuts to NASA�s Mars Programs

http://blogs.scientificamerican.com/observations/2012/02/13/obama-administration-proposes-big-cuts-to-nasas-mars-programs/

MalcolmR

Re: Authoritative Sources for the deniers! (Score: 1, Normal)

03-05-2012 18:05

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Here we go again, Pjlk.

I've repeatedly shown that all three of the databases cited in your article rely on the same raw data. And I've repeatedly shown that:

1. The holders of that data refuse to let peers reviews the data. That immediately means that the data should be dismissed. Unscientific.

2. Even the programmer for the database admits that it's in a 'hopeless state' http://scienceandpublicpolicy.org/images/stories/papers/originals/surface_temp.pdf
See first three paragraphs on page 4.

3. The data is held and manipulated by the people at the centre of the Climategate scandal and they refuse to be opened to independent scrutiny.
http://www.conscious.com.au/__documents/The%20Eco%20Fraud_part%201.pdf see page 4, under 2010
And http://www.conscious.com.au/__documents/additional%20material/climategate%20references.pdf

4. The data is known to be corrupted by gross errors as explained by Watts & D'Aleo above and by deliberate tampering to present a case not seen in the real untampered data itself. eg, http://www.uoguelph.ca/~rmckitri/research/nvst.html

Stupidity knows no bounds when people are closed and repeat the same mistake and rely on the same unvalidated belief and ideology long after it's been disproven and completely discredited.

Clinging to BS does not convert it to sound science.

Malcolm

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