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TSX69
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Comparison #s [View News Item]    (Score: 1, Normal) 01-05-2012 08:45
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BMW & MB have yet to publish their #s so the list is no yet complete but in the meantime:


AutoBlog 2011 Chart
2011 Best-Selling Minivan: Toyota Sienna (111,429), Dodge Caravan (110,862)
2011 Best-Selling Pony Car: Chevrolet Camaro (88,249), Ford Mustang (70,438)
2011 Best-Selling Small Car: Toyota Corolla (240,258) vs. Chevy Cruze (231,732)
2011 Best-Selling Mid-Size Sedan behind Camry (308,510) and Altima (268,981): Ford Fusion (248,067), Honda Accord (235,625)
TSX69
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Re: Comparison #s [View News Item]    (Score: 1, Normal) 01-05-2012 08:47
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BMW & Mercedes Sales Figures Mysteriously Delayed
German automakers BMW and Mercedes-Benz, battling fiercely to be the best-selling luxury brand in the U.S. this year, are "experiencing end-of-year sales reporting complications," according to Autodata, the company that compiles sales from all makers and issues the definitive tallies.

Surely we're not returning to the days when an automaker would stall until its rival reported, so it could see what number it had to beat before disclosing its own sales.

Edmunds.com's research shows that BMW boosted incentives 6.1% in December from November, to an average $3,694 per vehicle sold. Mercedes was up 1.3%, to $3,174.
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Re: Comparison #s [View News Item]    (Score: 1, Normal) 01-05-2012 09:27
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Honda Sales Off 7% & Loses Market Share
Combined Honda and Acura sales rose 17 percent in the first four months of 2011. But American Honda sales fell by more than 20 percent every month from May through August because of inventory shortages stemming from the March 11 Japanese earthquake.
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Re: Comparison #s [View News Item]    (Score: 1, Normal) 01-05-2012 10:12
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TSX69 wrote:
Surely we're not returning to the days when an automaker would stall until its rival reported, so it could see what number it had to beat before disclosing its own sales.

LOL That's awesome.
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Re: Comparison #s [View News Item]    (Score: 1, Normal) 01-05-2012 10:20
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Not a best selling anything between the Accord, Civic and Odyssey. Accord is now a distant no. 4.

People can talk about the Tsunami all they want, but its clear Honda's lost some edge over the years in categories it once ruled. Toyota still came out ahead in those segments, despite the tsunami, and an ANCIENT Corolla offering no less.

The CR-V might be Honda's salvation?
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Re: Comparison #s [View News Item]    (Score: 1, Normal) 01-05-2012 10:59
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A big part of the reason we bought Toyotas from 2007-2011 was the availability of Bluetooth with cloth; we didn't agree with Honda's packaging that required leather and often navi to get Bluetooth. At first most on here disagreed with me, but then dealers (at least mine) started making the same complaint to Honda, who is finally starting to package Bluetooth and even more electronics across the board. For 2012 we are back in the Honda camp with our Odyssey EX, which along with the Civic (2013), CRV, and soon to be (I hope) Accord will reverse the trend and boost Honda sales and market share. Now if they would just improve the mileage on the Ridgeline like they did with Pilot and Odyssey . . .
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Re: Comparison #s [View News Item]    (Score: 1, Normal) 01-05-2012 12:03
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DanielAcosta wrote:
A big part of the reason we bought Toyotas from 2007-2011 was the availability of Bluetooth with cloth; we didn't agree with Honda's packaging that required leather and often navi to get Bluetooth. At first most on here disagreed with me, but then dealers (at least mine) started making the same complaint to Honda, who is finally starting to package Bluetooth and even more electronics across the board. For 2012 we are back in the Honda camp with our Odyssey EX, which along with the Civic (2013), CRV, and soon to be (I hope) Accord will reverse the trend and boost Honda sales and market share. Now if they would just improve the mileage on the Ridgeline like they did with Pilot and Odyssey . . .



Wow you buy way to many hondas.

oddy,civic,crv,accord...and maybe a ridgeline.

U must be their biggest fan! grats!
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Top-selling US cars and trucks in 2011 [View News Item]    (Score: 1, Normal) 01-05-2012 13:15
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Automakers announced their December and 2011 full-year sales
on Wednesday. Below are the best-selling cars and trucks in
U.S. 2011 and how sales compared to 2010.

Vehicles sold ......................% change from 2010

Ford F-Series 584,917 ..........+10.7
Chevrolet Silverado 415,130 ..+12.2
Toyota Camry 308,510 ..........-5.9
Nissan Altima 268,981 ..........+17.3
Ford Escape 254,293 ...........+33.1
Ford Fusion 248,067 ............+13.2
Dodge Ram 244,763 .............+22.6
Toyota Corolla 240,259 .........-9.7
Honda Accord 235,625 ..........-16.6
Chevrolet Cruze 231,732 .......+846

Accord was #9!
Civic was out of top 10!
TSX69
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Re: Comparison #s [View News Item]    (Score: 1, Normal) 01-05-2012 13:19
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IS 3,629 -4%; 29,669 -13.4%
TSX 3,546 -19.3%; 30,935 -3.9%
Regal 3,086 +.9%; 40,144 +225.7%
1series 917 -25.4%; 8,832 -32.7%
A3 635 +9.9%; 6,561 -.9%

3series 8,489 -15.7%; 94,371 -6.5%
Cclass 7,744 +57.3%; 69,314 +17.9%
CTS 5,420 +4.8%; 55,042 +20.6%
G 5,399 -3.5% 98,461 -4.8%; coupe 1,132 -23.4% 14,487 -12.1%
LaCrosse 5,360 +4.3%; 58,474 -4.4%
ES 4,882 -10.7%; 40,873 -13.1%
A4 3,722 +5.9%; 35,234 +1.6%
TL 3,283 +.2%; 31,237 -8.6%
MKZ 2,435 -2.7%; 27,529 +22.2%

Eclass 5,301 -6%; 62,736 +3%
5series 4,887 -3.1%; 51,481 +30.4%
A6 1,855 +124%; 11,124 +28.2%
MKS 1,376 +15.3%; 12,217 -15.3%
M 1,084 -37.7%; 10,919 -26%
GS 194 -75%; 3,746 -47.1%
DTS 166 -89.2%; 11,589 -37.8%
RL 50 -64.5%; 1,096 -46.4%

7series 1,218 +19%; 11,299 -7.8%
Sclass 1,073 +10.7%; 12,256 -9.9%
LS 1,066 -30.3%; 9,558 -22.3%
A8 678 +35.1%; 5,700 +274.8%
TownCar 328 -45.3%; 9,460 -16%

RX 11,508 -4.8%; 82,695 -14.1%
x3 3,532 +316%; 27,793 +357.5%
GLK 2,346 +39.3%; 24,310 +16.1%
Q5 2,337 -5.5%; 24,908 +5.9%
RDX 1,576 +2.3%; 15,196 +1.1%
EX 544 -39.8%; 6,030 -27.5%

SRX 7,324 +24.9%; 56,905 +11.4%
x5 6,007 +52.5%; 40,547 +13.3%
Enclave 5,555 -16.3%; 58,392 +5.4%
Mclass 5,313 +40.4%; 35,835 +20.7%
MDX 4,588 -22.1%; 43,271 -8.6%
MKX 2,681 +18.6%; 23,395 +6.7%
GX 1,214 +10.7%; 11,609 -29.4%
FX 1,096 -6.7; 9,390 -4.6%
Q7 919 -9.4%; 8,998 +12.8%

X6 761 -11.4%; 6,192 -1%
ZDX 86 -66%; 1,564 -52.2%


Versa 9,939 -2.6%; 99,730 0%
Sonic 5,743; 15,778
Accent 5,316; 55,601
Fit 5,138 +5.7%; 59,235 +8.6%
Yaris 4,514 +31.9%; 32,704 -18.7%
Fiesta 3,673 -29.5%; 68,574 +194.7%
Rio 2,155; 20,111
Golf 1,411 +5.9%; 17,839 +22.8%
2 1,342 +60.9%; 13,952 +358.9%
SX4 1,330 +8%; 12,519 +8%

Corolla 21,009 -4.8%; 240,259 -10%
Civic 20,545 -27.3%; 221,235 -15.3%
Cruze 16,675 +53.5%; 231,732 +846%
Jetta 14,422 +11%; 177,360+43.9%
Focus 14,281 +12.1%; 175,717 +1.9%
Elantra 13,025; 186,361
3 9,264 +2.7%; 102,417 -4.3%
Sentra 8,710 -19.2%; 114,991 +22.2%
Forte 4,730; 76,295
Caliber 1,417 -41%; 35,049 -22%

Camry 33,506 +7.3%; 308,610 -6.2%
Altima 25,976 +12.9%; 268,981 +17.3%
Fusion 21,622 -4.5%; 248,067 +13.2%
Accord 17,667 -40%; 235,625 -16.9%
Malibu 13,034 +13.1%; 204,808 +3%
Sonata 13,025; 225,961
Optima 10,704; 84,590
200 9,213; 87,033
Passat 6,884 +3,745.8%; 22,779 +124%
Avenger 6,216 +77%; 64,023 +26%
6 3,067 -10.2%; 35,711 -.5%
Kizashi 597 -31%; 6,942 +13%

Impala 10,479 -8.2%; 171,434 -.4%
Charger 7,211 +227%; 70,089 -7%
Taurus 5,650 -.1%; 63,526 -7.7%
300 5,142 _242%; 36,285 -2%
Maxima 5,069 +13.6%; 58,737 -3%
Avalon 3,250 +2-%; 28,925 -6.2%
Azera 18; 1,524

Prius 17,004 +8.7%; 240,259 -3.2%
Volt 1,529 +369%; 7,671
LEAF 954 +4,921.1%; 9,674 +50,815.8%
Insight 690 -57.8%; 15,549 -26.1%
CR-Z 564 -35.6%; 11,330 +115.1%
i 80

Juke 3,028 -4.3%; 35,886 +251.3%
Veloster 2,188; 9,284

Camaro 6,754 +20.3%; 88,249 +8.5%
Mustang 5,057 -7.2%; 70,438 -4.4%
Challenger 3,284 -1%; 39,534 +7%
Genesis 2,470
370Z 449 -38.2%; 7,328 -28.3%
RX-8 26 -72.6%; 759 -33.5%

Venza 3,137 -21.5%; 38,904 -18.1%
CrossTour 1,295 -55.7%; 17,974 -37.9%

Soul 9,624; 102,267
xB 1,444 -6.1%; 17,017 -16.7%
Cube 406 -62.6; 14,459 -37%
Element 16 -98.8%; 11,534 -19.3%

Escape 25,574 +36.8%; 254,293 +33.1%
CR-V 21,586 -6.7%; 218,373 +6.8%
Equinox 18,195 -20.1%; 193,274 +28.9%
Rav4 14,107 -19.3%; 132,237 -22.9%
Rogue 12,286 +18.6%; 124,543 +25.1%
Journey 4,710 +23%; 55,155 +14%
Tucson 4,458; 47,232
Sportage 3,617; 47,462
CX-7 2,701 -20.9%; 35,641 +23%
Tiguan 2,403 -5.8%; 25,990 +24.1%
Grand Vitara 471 +13%; 4,980 +11%

Explorer 13,872 +37.4%; 135,704 +123.6%
Edge 12,077 +7%; 121,702 +2.6%
HighLander 11,777 +4.6%; 101,262 +9.6%
Pilot 11,641 +12.6%; 116,297 +13.3%
Sorento 10,663; 130,235
Traverse 9,326 -11.4%; 107,131 +.4%
Murano 5,473 +13.3%; 53,626 -.7%
SantaFe 5,082; 74,391
Durango 4,806 +1,231%; 51,697 +8,938%
CX-9 4,206 +27.8%; 34,421 +18.3%
Toureg 1,117 +38.6%; 7,535 +59.9%

Caravan 11,879 -17%; 110,862 +7%
Sienna 11,504 +31%; 111,429+12.9%
Odyssey 11,489 +13.2%; 107,068 -1.4%
Town & Country 9,619 -2%; 94,320 -16%
Flex 2,253 -1.1%; 27,428 -19.9%
Sedona 1,865; 24,047
5 1,206 +52.5%; 19,155 +21.4%
Routan 533 -57.3%; 12,473 -21.9%

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Re: Comparison #s [View News Item]    (Score: 1, Normal) 01-05-2012 14:15
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@TSX69 - Do you have the stats for pick-ups?

I am amazed at the popularity of pick-ups in both the US and Canada. The 4 door versions are the new family vehicle for a great many, so it seems.

Thanks for your regular contributions every month!!

Cheers,

Roger
TSX69
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Re: Comparison #s [View News Item]    (Score: 1, Normal) 01-05-2012 14:42
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Top 10 - w/ PickUps included

TSX69
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Re: Comparison #s [View News Item]    (Score: 1, Normal) 01-05-2012 14:46
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Top 20 of 2011
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Re: Comparison #s [View News Item]    (Score: 1, Normal) 01-05-2012 16:49
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Nissan and Toyota have to be pulling their hair out looking at the Kia Soul numbers, talk about kicking butt and taking names.

Kudos to Chevy Cruze, and Equinox. Both are good sellers and for going from point A to point B, they are quiet, get 'ok' gas mileage and give you plenty of admenities for the money.

And considering the year Honda had, they should be relieved if not happy were they are in comparison to competitors in their given segments.
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Re: Comparison #s [View News Item]    (Score: 1, Normal) 01-05-2012 16:53
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WOW, who's buying all those trucks, Companies?
TSX69
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I hope that stuff like this lights a fire under Honda/Acura (it seems like it already has).

10 Worst Selling Vehicles in 2011
10. Subaru Tribeca
MSRP: $30,595
Units Sold: 2,791

9. Mazda Tribute
MSRP: $20,555
Units Sold: 2,696

8. Mercedes-Benz R-Class
MSRP: $52,690
Units Sold: 2,385

7. Suzuki Equator
MSRP: $17,899
Units Sold: 2,127

6. Cadillac Escalade EXT*
MSRP: $63,060
Units Sold: 2,036

5. Toyota Land Cruiser
MSRP: $68,920
Units Sold: 1,662

4. Acura ZDX
MSRP: $46,020
Units Sold: 1,564

3. Mitsubishi Lancer Sportback*
MSRP: $18,395
Units Sold: 1,548

2. Hyundai Azera
MSRP: $25,495
Units Sold: 1,524

1. Acura RL
MSRP: $47,700
Units Sold: 1,096
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Re: Comparison #s [View News Item]    (Score: 1, Normal) 01-05-2012 21:31
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Never looked at the exact sales figures, but now the "rumors" on Acura make even more sense.

I think I know why the ILX is going to stay a sedan.
Looking at the share of 1 Series & A3 in "their" segment. Don't see a chance for a hatch, coupe or a wagon ILX - sad.
But makes sense if Acura wants to globally sell the cars - the civic coupe is a sole NA product.

Looking at the TL, well the 3 series got somewhat larger - still I understand why the TL must shrink.
The leaders here, C-class & 3 series all come with coupe options... that really gives me some hope.

The RL definitely has to go a special route with the new super hybrid, thats about the only niche 5 series & E-class hasn't really covered.


IS 3,629 -4%; 29,669 -13.4%
TSX 3,546 -19.3%; 30,935 -3.9%
Regal 3,086 +.9%; 40,144 +225.7%
1series 917 -25.4%; 8,832 -32.7%
A3 635 +9.9%; 6,561 -.9%

3series 8,489 -15.7%; 94,371 -6.5%
Cclass 7,744 +57.3%; 69,314 +17.9%
CTS 5,420 +4.8%; 55,042 +20.6%
G 5,399 -3.5% 98,461 -4.8%; coupe 1,132 -23.4% 14,487 -12.1%
LaCrosse 5,360 +4.3%; 58,474 -4.4%
ES 4,882 -10.7%; 40,873 -13.1%
A4 3,722 +5.9%; 35,234 +1.6%
TL 3,283 +.2%; 31,237 -8.6%
MKZ 2,435 -2.7%; 27,529 +22.2%

Eclass 5,301 -6%; 62,736 +3%
5series 4,887 -3.1%; 51,481 +30.4%
A6 1,855 +124%; 11,124 +28.2%
MKS 1,376 +15.3%; 12,217 -15.3%
M 1,084 -37.7%; 10,919 -26%
GS 194 -75%; 3,746 -47.1%
DTS 166 -89.2%; 11,589 -37.8%
RL 50 -64.5%; 1,096 -46.4%
chuchurocket
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Re: Comparison #s [View News Item]    (Score: 1, Normal) 01-05-2012 22:03
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dominik331 wrote:
WOW, who's buying all those trucks, Companies?


..and for what purpose? virtually all trucks I see on the road are carrying just the driver, with occasionally 1 or 2 passengers, and I honestly can't even remember the last time any of those trucks were carrying more/bigger stuff in the bed than what I have in the trunk of my accord
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Re: Comparison #s [View News Item]    (Score: 1, Normal) 01-05-2012 23:33
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chuchurocket wrote:
dominik331 wrote:
WOW, who's buying all those trucks, Companies?


..and for what purpose? virtually all trucks I see on the road are carrying just the driver, with occasionally 1 or 2 passengers, and I honestly can't even remember the last time any of those trucks were carrying more/bigger stuff in the bed than what I have in the trunk of my accord



1. One cannot beat the view for one thing.

2. Its what Texans drive and drove before the rest of the country thought it was chic.

3. A Silverado sitting on 22s look freaking cool in black.

4. Have you ever driven in Mason county for example? The dirt roads are like wash boards.........literally. They would make Ridgeline drop to its knees and scream for mercy.........Not so in a full frame truck.....thats just one example.

5. Did I mention they look cool?

And before you type it, yes alot of people do not use their half ton to its fullest capabilities. But you know what, when fuel prices spiked it wasn't Texans whining about the gas mileage. Again, Texans where driving trucks before they were chic,and will continue after the fact.


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Re: Comparison #s [View News Item]    (Score: 1, Normal) 01-05-2012 23:38
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And since we are talking trucks, its will be interesting to see if Ford F series can hold on in 2013. Chevy is releasing its next gen truck with new motors and rumored 500 pounds lighter, and rumored 25 hwy mpg in January 2013. A concept is suppose to debut next week in Detroit.

Ford is releasing its new truck either later in 13 or in 14. With the new ecoboosts Fords flying off the shelves, I am surprised Chevy kept it a close race with Ford.
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Re: Comparison #s [View News Item]    (Score: 1, Normal) 01-06-2012 10:08
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longhorn wrote:
Nissan and Toyota have to be pulling their hair out looking at the Kia Soul numbers, talk about kicking butt and taking names.



Toyota was somewhat on the right track with the 1st generation xB, but then the 2nd generation got bigger, uglier, had reduced, pathetic EPA and got pricier... thus less appealing to it's targeted demographic. And the Nissan Cube is just too weird. So there's really no need for the Japs to pull their hair out.... Styling, features, packaging, EPA, and even marketing (dancing hip-hop hampsters, who knew?), it's easy to see that Kia actually got this one right. (Could use more engine power though.) The Soul is everything the xB/Cube should have been. On a somewhat related note, I'm scratching my head wondering how on Earth Nissan was able to move 3,000 + Jukes. That thing is 10 times uglier than the Cube.
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I don't know about that...looks are subjective and all, but the cube is probably in the top 5 of ugly that you can buy in 2011. I literally laughed the first time I saw one, quickly followed by a confused "WTF" look as I passed it.

The Juke has more configurations and AWD too, so that probably helps it.
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Oops, forgot Subaru:

Corolla 21,009 -4.8%; 240,259 -10%
Civic 20,545 -27.3%; 221,235 -15.3%
Cruze 16,675 +53.5%; 231,732 +846%
Jetta 14,422 +11%; 177,360+43.9%
Focus 14,281 +12.1%; 175,717 +1.9%
Elantra 13,025; 186,361
3 9,264 +2.7%; 102,417 -4.3%
Sentra 8,710 -19.2%; 114,991 +22.2%
Impreza 5,464 +86.68%; 13,805 +65.87%
Forte 4,730; 76,295
Caliber 1,417 -41%; 35,049 -22%

Camry 33,506 +7.3%; 308,610 -6.2%
Altima 25,976 +12.9%; 268,981 +17.3%
Fusion 21,622 -4.5%; 248,067 +13.2%
Accord 17,667 -40%; 235,625 -16.9%
Malibu 13,034 +13.1%; 204,808 +3%
Sonata 13,025; 225,961
Optima 10,704; 84,590
200 9,213; 87,033
Passat 6,884 +3,745.8%; 22,779 +124%
Avenger 6,216 +77%; 64,023 +26%
Legacy 4,625 +19.08%; 42,401 +9.49%
6 3,067 -10.2%; 35,711 -.5%
Kizashi 597 -31%; 6,942 +13%

OutBack 13,430 +30.95%; 104,405 +12.09%
Venza 3,137 -21.5%; 38,904 -18.1%
CrossTour 1,295 -55.7%; 17,974 -37.9%

Escape 25,574 +36.8%; 254,293 +33.1%
CR-V 21,586 -6.7%; 218,373 +6.8%
Equinox 18,195 -20.1%; 193,274 +28.9%
Rav4 14,107 -19.3%; 132,237 -22.9%
Rogue 12,286 +18.6%; 124,543 +25.1%
Forester 8,601 +6.61%; 76,196 -10.44%
Journey 4,710 +23%; 55,155 +14%
Tucson 4,458; 47,232
Sportage 3,617; 47,462
CX-7 2,701 -20.9%; 35,641 +23%
Tiguan 2,403 -5.8%; 25,990 +24.1%
Grand Vitara 471 +13%; 4,980 +11%

Explorer 13,872 +37.4%; 135,704 +123.6%
Edge 12,077 +7%; 121,702 +2.6%
HighLander 11,777 +4.6%; 101,262 +9.6%
Pilot 11,641 +12.6%; 116,297 +13.3%
Sorento 10,663; 130,235
Traverse 9,326 -11.4%; 107,131 +.4%
Murano 5,473 +13.3%; 53,626 -.7%
SantaFe 5,082; 74,391
Durango 4,806 +1,231%; 51,697 +8,938%
CX-9 4,206 +27.8%; 34,421 +18.3%
Toureg 1,117 +38.6%; 7,535 +59.9%
Tribeca 33,701 +26.25%; 266,989 +1.2%
 
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